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"Man I can't see shit and I know this thread's fucked up!" RIP, Uncle Ray.   "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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floetcist said: Rodya24 said: Of course not. However, read the documents. The people who have made comments such as, "And just because some parents were bought off and decided not to go to court does not mean the man is innocent" have not read the documents. If there was enough evidence, the prosecution would have had no choice but to pursue a criminal trial. There is a difference, you know, between civil and criminal. Read the documents if you are so interested in Michael Jackson. It won't ever happen. It involves heavy analysis, background information, time lines, knowledge of the people involved, and an attention span. We even had one admit that they won't read it because ***its really long*** [Edited 1/17/08 18:31pm] Actually, you and Rodya are the ones being lazy. If you really wanted to make your case you would simply post the RELEVANT pieces of information that you think prove Mike's innocence. Simply tell us what the crucial points are. I suspect you don't do that because you haven't put most of the information into perspective, so you don't trust your ability to summarise. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: You need to get the words "for once" out of that sentence. I ALWAYS bring up valid points. Always. As for the adoption issues anyone will tell you it is a NIGHTMARE trying to adopt. The process takes years and involves all kinds of checks. Under normal circumstances, no suspected paedophile would EVER qualify to adopt a child. Whatever you say....As for the adoption issues, (if those kids were in fact adopted) I know what a rigorous process it is but the fact of the matter is that Michael HAS been investigated by child services before. If they truly thought those kids were in any danger or that he was unfit to be a parent then they would have taken those kids away from him. I mean look at Britney Spears for example, she's a big star and she lost custody of her kids so I doubt there would be any hesitation to take away Michael's kids if he was really an unfit parent. "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said:
"Man I can't see shit and I know this thread's fucked up!" RIP, Uncle Ray. 
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midnightmover said: floetcist said: It won't ever happen. It involves heavy analysis, background information, time lines, knowledge of the people involved, and an attention span. We even had one admit that they won't read it because ***its really long*** [Edited 1/17/08 18:31pm] Actually, you and Rodya are the ones being lazy. If you really wanted to make your case you would simply post the RELEVANT pieces of information that you think prove Mike's innocence. Simply tell us what the crucial points are. I suspect you don't do that because you haven't put most of the information into perspective, so you don't trust your ability to summarise. Why should we? Why should we make it so easy for you? We read the documents and we trust our own intelligence. How about you trust yours and read them for yourself? | |
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Oh s*it, I just saw the title of this thread  . I see the pics have been changed also. Tooooo funny .[Edited 1/17/08 18:57pm] "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ
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Tito only takes care of his 3 oldest kids.....
what about his daughter?  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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"A'ight, I warned y'all dumb asses, now I'm gonna scream it out for y'all: NO... MORE... DRAAAAAMA! GO 'HEAD, GO 'HEAD, GO HEEEEEAD!" [Edited 1/17/08 18:57pm] | |
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Timmy84 said:
"A'ight, I warned y'all dumb asses, now I'm gonna scream it out for y'all: NO... MORE... DRAAAAAMA! GO 'HEAD, GO 'HEAD, GO HEEEEEAD!"
[Edited 1/17/08 18:57pm] Did you see when she sang at some sports awards show in Portugal and the audience was like WTF when she was on stage carrying on and crying her songs? 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Rodya24 said: midnightmover said: Actually, you and Rodya are the ones being lazy. If you really wanted to make your case you would simply post the RELEVANT pieces of information that you think prove Mike's innocence. Simply tell us what the crucial points are. I suspect you don't do that because you haven't put most of the information into perspective, so you don't trust your ability to summarise. Why should we? Why should we make it so easy for you? We read the documents and we trust our own intelligence. How about you trust yours and read them for yourself? Because I thought you wanted to have a reasonable, honest discussion. In reasonable discussions people make points themselves. They do not say "Oh, go and read this". That is just not a mature way to communicate. It's actually not communication at all. It's cowardice. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Rodya24 said: midnightmover said: Actually, you and Rodya are the ones being lazy. If you really wanted to make your case you would simply post the RELEVANT pieces of information that you think prove Mike's innocence. Simply tell us what the crucial points are. I suspect you don't do that because you haven't put most of the information into perspective, so you don't trust your ability to summarise. Why should we? Why should we make it so easy for you? We read the documents and we trust our own intelligence. How about you trust yours and read them for yourself? What do expect really? Most people in the "Michael Jackson is guilty" club are a bunch of lazy f*ckers who can't be bothered to read anything about those cases. "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ
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bboy87 said: Tito only takes care of his 3 oldest kids.....
what about his daughter? 
"Ooh, this is a ratings goldmine if I can get Michael's brother to come on and defend himself." | |
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Timmy84 said:
"A'ight, I warned y'all dumb asses, now I'm gonna scream it out for y'all: NO... MORE... DRAAAAAMA! GO 'HEAD, GO 'HEAD, GO HEEEEEAD!"
[Edited 1/17/08 18:57pm] And get me some steroids. STAT! Shake it til ya make it  | |
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Jermaine is gonna use the fish eyes to make some more hair gel "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Cinnamon234 said: Rodya24 said: Why should we? Why should we make it so easy for you? We read the documents and we trust our own intelligence. How about you trust yours and read them for yourself? What do expect really? Most people in the "Michael Jackson is guilty" club are a bunch of lazy f*ckers who can't be bothered to read anything about those cases. 
I do love to sleep  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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midnightmover said: Rodya24 said: Why should we? Why should we make it so easy for you? We read the documents and we trust our own intelligence. How about you trust yours and read them for yourself? Because I thought you wanted to have a reasonable, honest discussion. In reasonable discussions people make points themselves. They do not say "Oh, go and read this". That is just not a mature way to communicate. It's actually not communication at all. It's cowardice. It is cowardice for one person to have read the documents and the other person to refuse to read them. What kind of dicussion will we have if one person has read the appropriate primary sources and the other has not? After you have read the documents, I will be more than happy to engage in a reasonable and honest discussion with you. Until that happens, we are running in circles. Happy reading. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Timmy84 said:
"A'ight, I warned y'all dumb asses, now I'm gonna scream it out for y'all: NO... MORE... DRAAAAAMA! GO 'HEAD, GO 'HEAD, GO HEEEEEAD!"
[Edited 1/17/08 18:57pm] Did you see when she sang at some sports awards show in Portugal and the audience was like WTF when she was on stage carrying on and crying her songs? LOL! I think I did. Poor Mary, lol. I love her tho.  | |
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bboy87 said:
Jermaine is gonna use the fish eyes to make some more hair gel LOOK. AT. THOSE. GENETICS! 
Absolutey none of that is going to translate in his own blood children? Really? And don't be using Latoya as a defense. She cut her face up too 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: Tito only takes care of his 3 oldest kids.....
what about his daughter?
"Ooh, this is a ratings goldmine if I can get Michael's brother to come on and defend himself."  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said:
Jermaine is gonna use the fish eyes to make some more hair gel Jermotherfuckingajesty need to cut off that tattooed hair like Steve Harvey just did. That fucking idiot. | |
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Shooot...its 'bout time I'm in the group!!
Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: Tito only takes care of his 3 oldest kids.....
what about his daughter?
"Ooh, this is a ratings goldmine if I can get Michael's brother to come on and defend himself."  White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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Timmy84 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Did you see when she sang at some sports awards show in Portugal and the audience was like WTF when she was on stage carrying on and crying her songs? LOL! I think I did. Poor Mary, lol. I love her tho. Oh I love Mary too  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said:
"Ooh, this is a ratings goldmine if I can get Michael's brother to come on and defend himself." I can actually imagine Tito doing THAT!
People be like "wow, who knew Tito could moonwalk!?!" | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: bboy87 said:
Jermaine is gonna use the fish eyes to make some more hair gel LOOK. AT. THOSE. GENETICS!
Absolutey none of that is going to translate in his own blood children? Really? And don't be using Latoya as a defense. She cut her face up too We'll have to see as they get older or see better pictures. Here are 2 of Jermaine's kids: 
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JuliePurplehead said: Timmy84 said:
"A'ight, I warned y'all dumb asses, now I'm gonna scream it out for y'all: NO... MORE... DRAAAAAMA! GO 'HEAD, GO 'HEAD, GO HEEEEEAD!"
[Edited 1/17/08 18:57pm] And get me some steroids. STAT! Oh no you didn't with the "get me some steroids. STAT!" You cold for that. | |
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floetcist said: Shooot...its 'bout time I'm in the group!!
Timmy84 said:
"Ooh, this is a ratings goldmine if I can get Michael's brother to come on and defend himself." welcome to the nwo  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: Jourdynn look like one of my nephews. | |
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Cinnamon234 said: midnightmover said: You need to get the words "for once" out of that sentence. I ALWAYS bring up valid points. Always. As for the adoption issues anyone will tell you it is a NIGHTMARE trying to adopt. The process takes years and involves all kinds of checks. Under normal circumstances, no suspected paedophile would EVER qualify to adopt a child. Whatever you say....As for the adoption issues, (if those kids were in fact adopted) I know what a rigorous process it is but the fact of the matter is that Michael HAS been investigated by child services before. If they truly thought those kids were in any danger or that he was unfit to be a parent then they would have taken those kids away from him. I mean look at Britney Spears for example, she's a big star and she lost custody of her kids so I doubt there would be any hesitation to take away Michael's kids if he was really an unfit parent. Well, the kids were actually more than adopted. There seems to have been elaborate arrangements made to make Michael some kids. Choosing the sperm, then finding the egg, then implanting the fertilised egg into Debbie Rowe. btw, the Britney comparison is off base. You're talking there about two parents arguing over custody of their own children (Spears and Federline). In Michael's case we're talking about someone making arrangements to get himself a child in the first place. Those are two totally different legal situations. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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