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Reply #90 posted 01/18/08 1:51am

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This could've been a thread that faded away quickly....but since all of you like takin' shit to another level, it was almost like you ASKED me to fuck it up lol

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Reply #91 posted 01/18/08 1:52am

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bboy87 said:

OMFG! Ya'll have really outdone yourselves with this one confused It's impossible for threads about Michael Jackson to go the positive route because ya'll always mess things up. So because of that.....




OMG. Why were you and the rest of the NWO so late messing with this thread! When I opened this thread earlier, I thought there would be pictures of wrestlers and not pictures of Jordan Chandler! mad

because I didn't know it would be taken this far. Does it always have to be like this? No, but it seems you all want it this way mad
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Reply #92 posted 01/18/08 1:54am

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OMG. Why were you and the rest of the NWO so late messing with this thread! When I opened this thread earlier, I thought there would be pictures of wrestlers and not pictures of Jordan Chandler! mad

because I didn't know it would be taken this far. Does it always have to be like this? No, but it seems you all want it this way mad


Bring it on! All the animations and pictures to fuck up this thread! I am sure lilgish will not mind -- I hope!
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Reply #93 posted 01/18/08 1:55am

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What do you mean you didn't know it would be taken this far?

1) It has Michael Jackson in the title.
2) It has children in the title.
3) It has his kids in the title.

(Although the latter two will be discussed irregardless anyway).

You know damn well every MJ thread is at least 5 pages...
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Reply #94 posted 01/18/08 1:56am

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #95 posted 01/18/08 1:57am

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bboy87 said:


because I didn't know it would be taken this far. Does it always have to be like this? No, but it seems you all want it this way mad


Bring it on! All the animations and pictures to fuck up this thread! I am sure lilgish will not mind -- I hope!



Speaking of whom, homegirl needs to find and reupload them MJ dance videos sad
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Reply #96 posted 01/18/08 1:58am

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Reply #97 posted 01/18/08 1:59am

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You don't have to get all emotional. And no, there is nothing wrong with bringing up children who are not biologically your, BUT Michael insists that all 3 children are biologically his and that's why peeps continue to bring up the fact that for him to have 3 bi-racial children and not one of them to have any African features whatsoever is rare, especially with the first two children. He continues to reinforce that he is a deluded liar and obsesse with everything white looking by pretending that they are his biological children, if really they aren't.


Like I said before, I overreacted. This is an issue that is sensitive to me. As a child I was teased for being "bought" too.... People can be quite cruel as this thread demonstrates in spades.

And as for Michael Jackson, orgers go in circles about his skin color, children (biological or not), child molestation accusations, believe what you want to believe.

People would be far more generous to Mike on this and all other issues if he weren't so clearly lying about it. To try and palm those white kids off as his own is an insult to all of us. We are not morons, but he obviously thinks we must be. The other reason people use hostile language about this issue is because they suspect (quite reasonably) that he chose not to have a child from his own seed because he didn't want to see a reflection of his own blackness. And there is another reason. In 1993 Michael was arrested on charges of paedophilia. Ask yourself, how many suspected paedophiles are normally allowed to raise other people's children? Adoption procedures are extremely rigorous, and under normal circumstances no-one who had ever been arrested on those charges would be allowed to adopt. Mike was obviously able to bypass all the normal procedures, and his money was what made it possible. That's why people use the word "bought".

I don't know what your circumstances were, but they were probably different. I had a friend who was adopted in school, and I never heard anyone tease him about it. Sorry, you found yourself with a nastier bunch of people.
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Reply #98 posted 01/18/08 1:59am

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Reply #99 posted 01/18/08 2:00am

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floetcist said:

What do you mean you didn't know it would be taken this far?

1) It has Michael Jackson in the title.
2) It has children in the title.
3) It has his kids in the title.

(Although the latter two will be discussed irregardless anyway).

You know damn well every MJ thread is at least 5 pages...

It's almost as if when the name "Michael Jackson" comes up on the org, the purest hate or immaturity, or simple disdain pours out. I understand. You don't like Michael Jackson, that doesn't mean you have to rain on his fans' parade and talk shit about them.

And MJ fans, stop being overdefensive. Every fan of Michael Jackson has to have this thing called "PATIENCE". I grew up with people making fun of me because I was a fan of Michael, Prince, and George, but it's something you're going to deal with, especially here on the org
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Reply #100 posted 01/18/08 2:02am

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Like I said before, I overreacted. This is an issue that is sensitive to me. As a child I was teased for being "bought" too.... People can be quite cruel as this thread demonstrates in spades.

And as for Michael Jackson, orgers go in circles about his skin color, children (biological or not), child molestation accusations, believe what you want to believe.

People would be far more generous to Mike on this and all other issues if he weren't so clearly lying about it. To try and palm those white kids off as his own is an insult to all of us. We are not morons, but he obviously thinks we must be. The other reason people use hostile language about this issue is because they suspect (quite reasonably) that he chose not to have a child from his own seed because he didn't want to see a reflection of his own blackness. And there is another reason. In 1993 Michael was arrested on charges of paedophilia. Ask yourself, how many suspected paedophiles are normally allowed to raise other people's children? Adoption procedures are extremely rigorous, and under normal circumstances no-one who had ever been arrested on those charges would be allowed to adopt. Mike was obviously able to bypass all the normal procedures, and his money was what made it possible. That's why people use the word "bought".

I don't know what your circumstances were, but they were probably different. I had a friend who was adopted in school, and I never heard anyone tease him about it. Sorry, you found yourself with a nastier bunch of people.


I am going to take the advice of bboy87 and spare myself from having a stroke.

I see you all the time in Jackson-related threads. If you are so interested in Michael Jackson, why not take the time to read the court transcripts and other documents and do research on vitiligo. That is all I am going to say on these matters to you from now on.
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Reply #101 posted 01/18/08 2:03am

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bboy87 said:

floetcist said:

What do you mean you didn't know it would be taken this far?

1) It has Michael Jackson in the title.
2) It has children in the title.
3) It has his kids in the title.

(Although the latter two will be discussed irregardless anyway).

You know damn well every MJ thread is at least 5 pages...

It's almost as if when the name "Michael Jackson" comes up on the org, the purest hate or immaturity, or simple disdain pours out. I understand. You don't like Michael Jackson, that doesn't mean you have to rain on his fans' parade and talk shit about them.

And MJ fans, stop being overdefensive. Every fan of Michael Jackson has to have this thing called "PATIENCE". I grew up with people making fun of me because I was a fan of Michael, Prince, and George, but it's something you're going to deal with, especially here on the org



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Reply #102 posted 01/18/08 2:04am

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floetcist said:

bboy87 said:


It's almost as if when the name "Michael Jackson" comes up on the org, the purest hate or immaturity, or simple disdain pours out. I understand. You don't like Michael Jackson, that doesn't mean you have to rain on his fans' parade and talk shit about them.

And MJ fans, stop being overdefensive. Every fan of Michael Jackson has to have this thing called "PATIENCE". I grew up with people making fun of me because I was a fan of Michael, Prince, and George, but it's something you're going to deal with, especially here on the org





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Reply #103 posted 01/18/08 2:05am

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Rodya24 said:

midnightmover said:


People would be far more generous to Mike on this and all other issues if he weren't so clearly lying about it. To try and palm those white kids off as his own is an insult to all of us. We are not morons, but he obviously thinks we must be. The other reason people use hostile language about this issue is because they suspect (quite reasonably) that he chose not to have a child from his own seed because he didn't want to see a reflection of his own blackness. And there is another reason. In 1993 Michael was arrested on charges of paedophilia. Ask yourself, how many suspected paedophiles are normally allowed to raise other people's children? Adoption procedures are extremely rigorous, and under normal circumstances no-one who had ever been arrested on those charges would be allowed to adopt. Mike was obviously able to bypass all the normal procedures, and his money was what made it possible. That's why people use the word "bought".

I don't know what your circumstances were, but they were probably different. I had a friend who was adopted in school, and I never heard anyone tease him about it. Sorry, you found yourself with a nastier bunch of people.


I am going to take the advice of bboy87 and spare myself from having a stroke.

I see you all the time in Jackson-related threads. If you are so interested in Michael Jackson, why not take the time to read the court transcripts and other documents and do research on vitiligo. That is all I am going to say on these matters to you from now on.


Exactly. I have it all right here. Do what with you will. http://www.box.net/shared/09zmi31anq
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Reply #104 posted 01/18/08 2:07am

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floetcist said:

Rodya24 said:
Of course not. Both are the perfect targets of what Chomsky calls manufactured consent in the media. Neither of them has taken the time to read the court transcripts from the 2005 trial and the documents from the 1993 investigation. Neither of them has taken the time to research vitiligo. One, in particular, depends on MJ fans for information and then accuses us of being liars.


Nope, and they never will. They actually have to READ. And those documents are pages and pages. Even though they keep demanding proof, when they're presented with it, they beat around the bush with more smiley faces and jokes.

I'd have FAR more respect for those of whom who took the time to familiarize themselves with the People v. Jackson case, analyze the given information and THAN and only than come up with their opinion. Otherwise, everything else is fraudulent. Can you review a book or a movie you've never read or watched?

But hey, its up for grabs. Who wants to start? lol

http://www.box.net/shared/09zmi31anq



Didn't he settle with these families aka.....pay them off?
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Reply #105 posted 01/18/08 2:11am

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BREAKING NEWS: ANOTHER THREAD FOCUSED ON MICHAEL JACKSON HAS BECOME UTTER BULLSHIT
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Reply #106 posted 01/18/08 2:12am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

floetcist said:

Rodya24 said:


Nope, and they never will. They actually have to READ. And those documents are pages and pages. Even though they keep demanding proof, when they're presented with it, they beat around the bush with more smiley faces and jokes.

I'd have FAR more respect for those of whom who took the time to familiarize themselves with the People v. Jackson case, analyze the given information and THAN and only than come up with their opinion. Otherwise, everything else is fraudulent. Can you review a book or a movie you've never read or watched?

But hey, its up for grabs. Who wants to start? lol

http://www.box.net/shared/09zmi31anq



Didn't he settle with these families aka.....pay them off?


Again, read the appropriate documents if you are so interested in Michael Jackson. floetcist has been kind enought to provide a link.
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Reply #107 posted 01/18/08 2:13am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

floetcist said:

Rodya24 said:


Nope, and they never will. They actually have to READ. And those documents are pages and pages. Even though they keep demanding proof, when they're presented with it, they beat around the bush with more smiley faces and jokes.

I'd have FAR more respect for those of whom who took the time to familiarize themselves with the People v. Jackson case, analyze the given information and THAN and only than come up with their opinion. Otherwise, everything else is fraudulent. Can you review a book or a movie you've never read or watched?

But hey, its up for grabs. Who wants to start? lol

http://www.box.net/shared/09zmi31anq



Didn't he settle with these families aka.....pay them off?

This thread has put R. Kelly at ease
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Reply #108 posted 01/18/08 2:14am

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Rodya24 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:




Didn't he settle with these families aka.....pay them off?


Again, read the appropriate documents if you are so interested in Michael Jackson. floetcist has been kind enought to provide a link.

I am not reading through 5 pages of PDFs lol

True or not. Did Michael settle with the families? 15 million in 2004:

http://www.thesmokinggun....acko1.html

Are you saying this did not happen?
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Reply #109 posted 01/18/08 2:15am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

floetcist said:

Rodya24 said:


Nope, and they never will. They actually have to READ. And those documents are pages and pages. Even though they keep demanding proof, when they're presented with it, they beat around the bush with more smiley faces and jokes.

I'd have FAR more respect for those of whom who took the time to familiarize themselves with the People v. Jackson case, analyze the given information and THAN and only than come up with their opinion. Otherwise, everything else is fraudulent. Can you review a book or a movie you've never read or watched?

But hey, its up for grabs. Who wants to start? lol

http://www.box.net/shared/09zmi31anq



Didn't he settle with these families aka.....pay them off?

Yes he did. If that were me and I knew I didn't molest anyone, we would be all up in that courtroom. I'll be damned if I let you drag my good name in the mud with allegations as serious as child molestation. I firmly believe that he did that cause he was guilty as sin. I've heard arguments that he just wanted it to go away and that it would be easier if he'd pay them off but I can't see an innocent man let something like that go down that easily. MJ is a mess and a dirty mess at that.
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Reply #110 posted 01/18/08 2:16am

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bboy87 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:




Didn't he settle with these families aka.....pay them off?

This thread has put R. Kelly at ease

His day is coming. That dirty piece of dog shit. barf
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Reply #111 posted 01/18/08 2:17am

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Lil Oprah does not approve this thread, either
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Reply #112 posted 01/18/08 2:17am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

floetcist said:

Rodya24 said:


Nope, and they never will. They actually have to READ. And those documents are pages and pages. Even though they keep demanding proof, when they're presented with it, they beat around the bush with more smiley faces and jokes.

I'd have FAR more respect for those of whom who took the time to familiarize themselves with the People v. Jackson case, analyze the given information and THAN and only than come up with their opinion. Otherwise, everything else is fraudulent. Can you review a book or a movie you've never read or watched?

But hey, its up for grabs. Who wants to start? lol

http://www.box.net/shared/09zmi31anq



Didn't he settle with these families aka.....pay them off?


I take it you didn't read than? lol? You need help? Do you want me to hold your hand to? You may also need to read this as well, seeing that your vocabulary is limited, and unaware of anything that isn't ABC simple. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...urt_of_law

AGAIN. When MJ paid his settlement, he was settling a civil case not a criminal case; he was not being prosecuted, he was being sued. There is a clause in the settlement which states that MJ in no way acknowledges any wrongdoing by signing the settlement. There is another clause which specifically states that a settlement in the civil case in no way affects the recipients’ right to testify in a criminal case. The DA presented the case to two grand juries, and both of them turned them down because there was not enough evidence. MJ did not offer money, he was being sued by the father.

Entire document
http://www.sbscpublicacce...prtobj.pdf


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Reply #113 posted 01/18/08 2:17am

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purplecam said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:




Didn't he settle with these families aka.....pay them off?

Yes he did. If that were me and I knew I didn't molest anyone, we would be all up in that courtroom. I'll be damned if I let you drag my good name in the mud with allegations as serious as child molestation. I firmly believe that he did that cause he was guilty as sin. I've heard arguments that he just wanted it to go away and that it would be easier if he'd pay them off but I can't see an innocent man let something like that go down that easily. MJ is a mess and a dirty mess at that.

And just because some parents were bought off and decided not to pursue to a guilty plea does not mean the man is innocent. MJ fans have Saturn sized blinders on lol

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Reply #114 posted 01/18/08 2:19am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:




Didn't he settle with these families aka.....pay them off?

Yes he did. If that were me and I knew I didn't molest anyone, we would be all up in that courtroom. I'll be damned if I let you drag my good name in the mud with allegations as serious as child molestation. I firmly believe that he did that cause he was guilty as sin. I've heard arguments that he just wanted it to go away and that it would be easier if he'd pay them off but I can't see an innocent man let something like that go down that easily. MJ is a mess and a dirty mess at that.


His insurance company did and not him. There is a difference. If one reads the documents from the 1993 investigation and the civil settlement, one will be surprised at what this "settlement" entails.

SupaFunkyOrgangriderSexy: Read the documents instead of depending on a paraphrased reading of them. And the "settlement" was made for the 1993 investigation not the 2005 court trial.
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Reply #115 posted 01/18/08 2:20am

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floetcist said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:




Didn't he settle with these families aka.....pay them off?


I take it you didn't read than? lol? You need help? Do you want me to hold your hand to? You may also need to read this as well, seeing that your vocabulary is limited, and unaware of anything that isn't ABC simple. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...urt_of_law

AGAIN. When MJ paid his settlement, he was settling a civil case not a criminal case; he was not being prosecuted, he was being sued. There is a clause in the settlement which states that MJ in no way acknowledges any wrongdoing by signing the settlement. There is another clause which specifically states that a settlement in the civil case in no way affects the recipients’ right to testify in a criminal case. The DA presented the case to two grand juries, and both of them turned them down because there was not enough evidence. MJ did not offer money, he was being sued by the father.

Entire document
http://www.sbscpublicacce...prtobj.pdf



So you are playing fucking SEMANTICS. Michael didn't personally pay off the family, his insurance company did. THAT MEANS THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT WITH THE FAMILY!. And why is the insurance company paying for something that never happened?
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Reply #116 posted 01/18/08 2:20am

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Like I said before, I overreacted. This is an issue that is sensitive to me. As a child I was teased for being "bought" too.... People can be quite cruel as this thread demonstrates in spades.

And as for Michael Jackson, orgers go in circles about his skin color, children (biological or not), child molestation accusations, believe what you want to believe.

People would be far more generous to Mike on this and all other issues if he weren't so clearly lying about it. To try and palm those white kids off as his own is an insult to all of us. We are not morons, but he obviously thinks we must be. The other reason people use hostile language about this issue is because they suspect (quite reasonably) that he chose not to have a child from his own seed because he didn't want to see a reflection of his own blackness. And there is another reason. In 1993 Michael was arrested on charges of paedophilia. Ask yourself, how many suspected paedophiles are normally allowed to raise other people's children? Adoption procedures are extremely rigorous, and under normal circumstances no-one who had ever been arrested on those charges would be allowed to adopt. Mike was obviously able to bypass all the normal procedures, and his money was what made it possible. That's why people use the word "bought".
I don't know what your circumstances were, but they were probably different. I had a friend who was adopted in school, and I never heard anyone tease him about it. Sorry, you found yourself with a nastier bunch of people.


Well I don't know about any of that, I can't say I agree there and I'm a big Michael fan but for once I have to say that you have brought up some valid points.

I just think it's too much of a coincidence that not only has Michael's skin color changed (due to vitiligo or skin bleaching, depends on what you believe) and being that he is someone who is seen as a self hating black man (and understandably so) would have three children who all look almost completely white. I've often wondered if Michael would ever have a child with a black woman or adopt a black child but who know's really? I would really like to see Michael do an interview one day where he finally addresses all of this (i.e. allegations, self hate issues, etc.). And I mean do an HONEST/candid interview this time and not just gloss over things he doesn't want to talk about or blame other people for his problems, which is something he does all too often in interviews i've seen of him.
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Reply #117 posted 01/18/08 2:21am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:




Didn't he settle with these families aka.....pay them off?

Yes he did. If that were me and I knew I didn't molest anyone, we would be all up in that courtroom. I'll be damned if I let you drag my good name in the mud with allegations as serious as child molestation. I firmly believe that he did that cause he was guilty as sin. I've heard arguments that he just wanted it to go away and that it would be easier if he'd pay them off but I can't see an innocent man let something like that go down that easily. MJ is a mess and a dirty mess at that.

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I believe Michael was a complete dumbass for settling with the Chandler family.
I don't think he did the crime, reading the transcripts and all and remembering what the Jackson family was going through at the time.

It's also well documented that Johnnie Cochran wanted to settle although Michael's advisors felt it was a terrible idea.
In the end, nobody won.
But the 2003-2005 was a complete joke lol hence my laughter lol
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Reply #118 posted 01/18/08 2:22am

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I am not reading through 5 pages of PDFs lol


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