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Rodya24

Question to Janet Jackson fans: remastered albums and compilation

I apologize for all these "remastered albums" thread questions.

Do Janet Jackson fans know if her former record company will remaster the Control and RN 1814 albums? As with the Madonna albums, I am hesitent to buy Control and RN 1814 (hard copies) if they are going to be remastered soon.

Also, do you know if Virgin will release a greatest hits compilation of her years with them? It seems foolish not to.

Thank you.
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Reply #1 posted 01/15/08 7:59am

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They should remaster the "Dream Street" album and include the 12 Inch version of "Don't Stand Another Chance" as a bonus track. I already have her first album and, starting with "Control", her music has been played to death to the point that I'm sick of hearing it.
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Reply #2 posted 01/15/08 8:06am

Rodya24

vainandy said:

They should remaster the "Dream Street" album and include the 12 Inch version of "Don't Stand Another Chance" as a bonus track. I already have her first album and, starting with "Control", her music has been played to death to the point that I'm sick of hearing it.


I have never heard any songs from her first two albums. I am afraid I am only familiar with her music from Control on. And it seems that Janet Jackson herself sometimes forgets that Control was not her first album. How are Janet Jackson and Dream Street?
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Reply #3 posted 01/15/08 8:14am

VoicesCarry

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vainandy said:

They should remaster the "Dream Street" album and include the 12 Inch version of "Don't Stand Another Chance" as a bonus track. I already have her first album and, starting with "Control", her music has been played to death to the point that I'm sick of hearing it.


I have never heard any songs from her first two albums. I am afraid I am only familiar with her music from Control on. And it seems that Janet Jackson herself sometimes forgets that Control was not her first album. How are Janet Jackson and Dream Street?


Janet doesn't like those two albums because Joe forced her to record them when her heart wasn't in it. She's said that for her it starts with Control since that's when she dumped Joe as manager and took on independent challenges for the first time.

The first two albums have some nice disposable early 80's pop/R&B jams on them. Don't Stand Another Chance, which is pretty funky, is a standout.

To answer your questions:

Do Janet Jackson fans know if her former record company will remaster the Control and RN 1814 albums? As with the Madonna albums, I am hesitent to buy Control and RN 1814 (hard copies) if they are going to be remastered soon.


I have no clue, but a big comeback this year will certainly help her chances. I am pretty sure Control will have a rerelease in 2011 (it's 25th anniversary), and also the first year they will seriously consider her for the RRHOF. If her comeback is strong this year I expect her to be inducted in 2011 and have a new album that year to capitalize on the induction.

Also, do you know if Virgin will release a greatest hits compilation of her years with them? It seems foolish not to.


I have no clue what is going on with Virgin, but then I never did since Richard Branson left. lol

Janet would be smart to do like Mariah and purchase her entire catalogue back for about $20 million. It's worth the investment and that money is nothing to her.
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Reply #4 posted 01/15/08 8:17am

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Rodya24 said:

vainandy said:

They should remaster the "Dream Street" album and include the 12 Inch version of "Don't Stand Another Chance" as a bonus track. I already have her first album and, starting with "Control", her music has been played to death to the point that I'm sick of hearing it.


I have never heard any songs from her first two albums. I am afraid I am only familiar with her music from Control on. And it seems that Janet Jackson herself sometimes forgets that Control was not her first album. How are Janet Jackson and Dream Street?


Janet Jackson is good....not as good as the rest of her catalouge (Better than Dream Street) however it has some nice tunes. "Young Love" (funky) "Say You Do" (funky) Come Give Your Love To Me, and Love and My Best Friend cry bawl (its like a pre-Lets Wait A While almost). Its worth those 4 songs to me.

Dream Street...its like cheesy mid 80's bubblegum pop. However I loved You Dont Stand Another Chance with it's fake "I Didnt Mean To Turn You On" synths and Michael Jackson saying "you dont even stand it baby!!!" hee hees and all. Dream Street...meeh...Fast Girls...meeh.. I would say if u like it (I LOVE CHEESY 80's POP), however its not really that catchy I would say.
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Reply #5 posted 01/15/08 8:18am

VoicesCarry

paisleypark4 said:

Rodya24 said:



I have never heard any songs from her first two albums. I am afraid I am only familiar with her music from Control on. And it seems that Janet Jackson herself sometimes forgets that Control was not her first album. How are Janet Jackson and Dream Street?


Janet Jackson is good....not as good as the rest of her catalouge (Better than Dream Street) however it has some nice tunes. "Young Love" (funky) "Say You Do" (funky) Come Give Your Love To Me, and Love and My Best Friend cry bawl (its like a pre-Lets Wait A While almost). Its worth those 4 songs to me.

Dream Street...its like cheesy mid 80's bubblegum pop. However I loved You Dont Stand Another Chance with it's fake "I Didnt Mean To Turn You On" synths and Michael Jackson saying "you dont even stand it baby!!!" hee hees and all. Dream Street...meeh...Fast Girls...meeh.. I would say if u like it (I LOVE CHEESY 80's POP), however its not really that catchy I would say.


I love Young Love, Say You Do and Come Give Your Love To Me.
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Reply #6 posted 01/15/08 8:20am

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I doubt it. Even though it's a safe bet to sell those albums again to hardcore fans, I can't imagine that the label would put out such an item out now when they really need to think about the future of music...if they do re release them, it could be digitally?

I can't imagine Virgin won't release some sort of compiltion but it might not be too soon although it's possible they could do it at the end of the year and try to see if there is a sales impact over the fourth qaurter. It might be a case like with A&M, where she cooperates with them and gives them two new tracks (unless that was a contractual obligation...she doesn't appear to have that with Virgin and making a hits set, does she?). If she does, what would the track list include? Skimpy on the last two albums, of course, but they got to include something.


"Janet: The Virgin Years"

1. That's the Way Love Goes (it's a repeat from the first set, but is a signature song from those years)
2. If
3. Again
4. You Want This
5. Anytime, Any Place
6. Got Til It's Gone
7. Together Again
8. Go Deep
9. I Get Lonely
10. All For You
11. Doesn't Really Matter
12. Someone To Call My Lover
13. Son of A Gun (remix)
14. I Want You
15. Just A Little While
16. All Nite
17. Call On me
18. So Excited
19. New Track?

That's a bit of a stretch and I would imagine they would not include So Excited, All Nite (although a fan favorite and a dance number one) and "Just A Little While". Also, there is a good chance of including at least one of her notable guest appearances on a rap record, most likely "What's It Gonna Be" or the records with Shaggy and Beanie Man, since they are both Virgin singles. They'll be something out there.

RN1814 was recently reissued with a DVD and the CD was probably remastered (don't know for sure).
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Reply #7 posted 01/15/08 8:20am

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VoicesCarry said:

paisleypark4 said:



Janet Jackson is good....not as good as the rest of her catalouge (Better than Dream Street) however it has some nice tunes. "Young Love" (funky) "Say You Do" (funky) Come Give Your Love To Me, and Love and My Best Friend cry bawl (its like a pre-Lets Wait A While almost). Its worth those 4 songs to me.

Dream Street...its like cheesy mid 80's bubblegum pop. However I loved You Dont Stand Another Chance with it's fake "I Didnt Mean To Turn You On" synths and Michael Jackson saying "you dont even stand it baby!!!" hee hees and all. Dream Street...meeh...Fast Girls...meeh.. I would say if u like it (I LOVE CHEESY 80's POP), however its not really that catchy I would say.


I love Young Love, Say You Do and Come Give Your Love To Me.

Say You Do is sooo Jackson-esque lol
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Reply #8 posted 01/15/08 8:25am

VoicesCarry

VinnyM27 said:

RN1814 was recently reissued with a DVD and the CD was probably remastered (don't know for sure).


The Rhythm Nation Compilation is not a recent reissue. It was issued in the early 00's as a package containing the original album (not remastered) plus the DVD compilation that had already been issued.

This is the tracklisting of a "We <3 Janet" promotional greatest hits collection Virgin released in Japan to promote 20 Y.O.

1. So Excited featuring Khia
2. That's The Way Love Goes
3. If - Radio Edit
4. Again - Piano/Vocal
5. Because Of Love
6. Any Time, Any Place - R.Kelly Mix
7. Got 'Til It's Gone featuring Q-Tip & Joni Mitchell - Radio Edit
8. Together Again - Radio Edit
9. I Get Lonely - LP Edit
10. Go Deep - Album Version
11. Doesn't Really Matter - Album Mix
12. All For You - Radio Edit
13. Someone To Call My Lover - Single Edit
14. Come On Get Up - Radio Version
15. Feel It Boy - Radio Edit
16. Just A Little While - Single Radio Edit
17. All Nite (Don't Stop) - Album Version
18. Call On Me with Nelly - Album Mix
19. Call On Me - Fullphat Remix

Drop the Call on Me Remix, remove Come On Get Up (not released in the US) and replace them with Every Time and Son of a Gun and I imagine that's what they would release as a US greatest hits collection. And maybe substitute I Want You for Feel It Boy.

Janet has no contractual obligation to Virgin, so we won't see new songs. Virgin also doesn't own any of her unreleased material - most of that is still in the Flyte Time vaults.
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Reply #9 posted 01/15/08 8:27am

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VoicesCarry said:

paisleypark4 said:



Janet Jackson is good....not as good as the rest of her catalouge (Better than Dream Street) however it has some nice tunes. "Young Love" (funky) "Say You Do" (funky) Come Give Your Love To Me, and Love and My Best Friend cry bawl (its like a pre-Lets Wait A While almost). Its worth those 4 songs to me.

Dream Street...its like cheesy mid 80's bubblegum pop. However I loved You Dont Stand Another Chance with it's fake "I Didnt Mean To Turn You On" synths and Michael Jackson saying "you dont even stand it baby!!!" hee hees and all. Dream Street...meeh...Fast Girls...meeh.. I would say if u like it (I LOVE CHEESY 80's POP), however its not really that catchy I would say.


I love Young Love, Say You Do and Come Give Your Love To Me.


Me 2...they have playing live power..however her other hits outshines those songs.



and I thought that Rhythm Nation sounded very good on cd and didnt really need remastering at all
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Reply #10 posted 01/15/08 8:36am

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They’re both blurs in her discography but to early fans I think they have their place. I prefer the self-titled disc over Dream Street.

As mentioned, I love Young Love, Say You Do and especially Come Give Your Love To Me. I had a 12” version that I use to run in the ground.

Dream Street for me had more misses than hits despite the Two to the Power of Love duet with then popular Cliff Richards, and her brothers lending background vocals.

I think this is the long version:http://www.youtube.com/wa...a8JVAhccGI
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Alot of these artists need to go back and re-issue their older stuff and re-master them at this point, people like madonna,mj,janet and Prince (though he wont) but it really comes down to the labels interest in doing it and the artist also. All would benefit from taking a page from the REM and Depeche Mode book, they pretty much re-issued all their work (rem just WB) re-mastered and containing dvds with each also.

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Reply #13 posted 01/15/08 8:50am

VoicesCarry

lastdecember said:

Alot of these artists need to go back and re-issue their older stuff and re-master them at this point, people like madonna,mj,janet and Prince (though he wont) but it really comes down to the labels interest in doing it and the artist also. All would benefit from taking a page from the REM and Depeche Mode book, they pretty much re-issued all their work (rem just WB) re-mastered and containing dvds with each also.


The artists can't do anything if they are no longer with the label and the label has no interest.
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Reply #14 posted 01/15/08 8:57am

MikeMatronik

VoicesCarry said:

lastdecember said:

Alot of these artists need to go back and re-issue their older stuff and re-master them at this point, people like madonna,mj,janet and Prince (though he wont) but it really comes down to the labels interest in doing it and the artist also. All would benefit from taking a page from the REM and Depeche Mode book, they pretty much re-issued all their work (rem just WB) re-mastered and containing dvds with each also.


The artists can't do anything if they are no longer with the label and the label has no interest.


Both REM and DM own their masters. Looking into the credits of my j. cds from the virgin era, the copyright thing was always by Janet's company...black doll or something like that
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Reply #15 posted 01/15/08 8:58am

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I am not sure, but they might re issue control and Rn, and re certify them now that she's under unversial again. but I can't see virgin doing that with her catologue there. Even thou I like 20 Yo, I wish now that she would of just releassed a 20 anniversary issue of control, or a greatest hits ( which she needs to update), instead of a new studio album,that would of been more approite
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Reply #16 posted 01/15/08 9:00am

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VoicesCarry said:

lastdecember said:

Alot of these artists need to go back and re-issue their older stuff and re-master them at this point, people like madonna,mj,janet and Prince (though he wont) but it really comes down to the labels interest in doing it and the artist also. All would benefit from taking a page from the REM and Depeche Mode book, they pretty much re-issued all their work (rem just WB) re-mastered and containing dvds with each also.


The artists can't do anything if they are no longer with the label and the label has no interest.


Well they can if they co-operate, the label will re-package anything if they can make a dollar at this point. Prince blocked re-issues from WB mainly because he wanted 100% control over what they did and wouldnt turn anything un-released over.

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Reply #17 posted 01/15/08 9:19am

VoicesCarry

MikeMatronik said:

VoicesCarry said:



The artists can't do anything if they are no longer with the label and the label has no interest.


Both REM and DM own their masters. Looking into the credits of my j. cds from the virgin era, the copyright thing was always by Janet's company...black doll or something like that


I don't think Janet owns her masters.
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VoicesCarry said:

MikeMatronik said:



Both REM and DM own their masters. Looking into the credits of my j. cds from the virgin era, the copyright thing was always by Janet's company...black doll or something like that


I don't think Janet owns her masters.

Black Doll is her publishing company. like MiJac or Webo Girl.
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Reply #19 posted 01/15/08 9:29am

VoicesCarry

ehuffnsd said:

VoicesCarry said:



I don't think Janet owns her masters.

Black Doll is her publishing company. like MiJac or Webo Girl.


Yes, I know that.
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MikeMatronik

VoicesCarry said:

ehuffnsd said:


Black Doll is her publishing company. like MiJac or Webo Girl.


Yes, I know that.


And JDJ?
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Reply #21 posted 01/15/08 9:36am

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paisleypark4 said:

Rodya24 said:



I have never heard any songs from her first two albums. I am afraid I am only familiar with her music from Control on. And it seems that Janet Jackson herself sometimes forgets that Control was not her first album. How are Janet Jackson and Dream Street?


Janet Jackson is good....not as good as the rest of her catalouge (Better than Dream Street) however it has some nice tunes. "Young Love" (funky) "Say You Do" (funky) Come Give Your Love To Me, and Love and My Best Friend cry bawl (its like a pre-Lets Wait A While almost). Its worth those 4 songs to me.

Dream Street...its like cheesy mid 80's bubblegum pop. However I loved You Dont Stand Another Chance with it's fake "I Didnt Mean To Turn You On" synths and Michael Jackson saying "you dont even stand it baby!!!" hee hees and all. Dream Street...meeh...Fast Girls...meeh.. I would say if u like it (I LOVE CHEESY 80's POP), however its not really that catchy I would say.



I love the song "pretty boy", and "all my love to you" but of course don't stand another chance is the best
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Reply #22 posted 01/15/08 9:40am

VoicesCarry

MikeMatronik said:

VoicesCarry said:



Yes, I know that.


And JDJ?


JDJ Entertainment is her production company.
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Reply #23 posted 01/15/08 9:42am

MikeMatronik

VoicesCarry said:

MikeMatronik said:



And JDJ?


JDJ Entertainment is her production company.


And who are jimmy jam and Terry Lewis?
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Reply #24 posted 01/15/08 9:45am

VoicesCarry

MikeMatronik said:

VoicesCarry said:



JDJ Entertainment is her production company.


And who are jimmy jam and Terry Lewis?


lol You just fuckin' with me.
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Reply #25 posted 01/15/08 10:44am

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MikeMatronik said:

VoicesCarry said:



The artists can't do anything if they are no longer with the label and the label has no interest.


Both REM and DM own their masters. Looking into the credits of my j. cds from the virgin era, the copyright thing was always by Janet's company...black doll or something like that


Very true it seems that the whole little group of bands from that time own their stuff, REM,Depeche Mode,Jovi, and U2 to name a few.

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Reply #26 posted 01/15/08 11:01am

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paisleypark4 said:

Rodya24 said:



I have never heard any songs from her first two albums. I am afraid I am only familiar with her music from Control on. And it seems that Janet Jackson herself sometimes forgets that Control was not her first album. How are Janet Jackson and Dream Street?


Janet Jackson is good....not as good as the rest of her catalouge (Better than Dream Street) however it has some nice tunes. "Young Love" (funky) "Say You Do" (funky) Come Give Your Love To Me, and Love and My Best Friend cry bawl (its like a pre-Lets Wait A While almost). Its worth those 4 songs to me.

Dream Street...its like cheesy mid 80's bubblegum pop. However I loved You Dont Stand Another Chance with it's fake "I Didnt Mean To Turn You On" synths and Michael Jackson saying "you dont even stand it baby!!!" hee hees and all. Dream Street...meeh...Fast Girls...meeh.. I would say if u like it (I LOVE CHEESY 80's POP), however its not really that catchy I would say.

I agree.
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Reply #27 posted 01/15/08 11:02am

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VoicesCarry said:

paisleypark4 said:



Janet Jackson is good....not as good as the rest of her catalouge (Better than Dream Street) however it has some nice tunes. "Young Love" (funky) "Say You Do" (funky) Come Give Your Love To Me, and Love and My Best Friend cry bawl (its like a pre-Lets Wait A While almost). Its worth those 4 songs to me.

Dream Street...its like cheesy mid 80's bubblegum pop. However I loved You Dont Stand Another Chance with it's fake "I Didnt Mean To Turn You On" synths and Michael Jackson saying "you dont even stand it baby!!!" hee hees and all. Dream Street...meeh...Fast Girls...meeh.. I would say if u like it (I LOVE CHEESY 80's POP), however its not really that catchy I would say.


I love Young Love, Say You Do and Come Give Your Love To Me.

So do I. SAY YOU DO is what made me a fan of hers musically. Next would be
COME GIVE YOUR LOVE TO ME. LOVE AND MY BEST FRIEND was pretty.
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Reply #28 posted 01/15/08 11:04am

DawnD

VoicesCarry said:

MikeMatronik said:



Both REM and DM own their masters. Looking into the credits of my j. cds from the virgin era, the copyright thing was always by Janet's company...black doll or something like that


I don't think Janet owns her masters.

How unfortunate, because it would be in her best interest if she did. Every artist should own their own masters. It should be their right before it's their priviledge. eek
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