I've never heard any of his music but I have seen his name brought up from time to time here on the org. Since I've seen some of the cool orgers bring his name up, I figured I'd look for some of his stuff in the record store and had no luck. The fact that I can't find his stuff in my local record store makes me wonder if his stuff is actually good since a record stores like to keep the good stuff out. However, just because some of the cool orgers like him still doesn't mean that I might like him because very few people are as strict and rigid as me when it comes to music. I figured I'd take a chance though since good new music has become a desperate thing these days.

I didn't see any comments on the other thread that would really be harsh enough to piss him off so I'll ask some questions about his music. If the comments are what I want to hear, I'll give him a huge compliment. However, if the comments aren't what I want to hear, I'll give him a reason to be pissed.

I got the impression from the other thread that he plays instruments. Well, does he have real drums and bass on the records? If he has drum machines, are they strong sounding drum machines or are they the same shit hop sounding ones that everyone else is using these days? And also, MOST IMPORTANTLY, does he ever speed the tempo up faster than all this sissified ballerina tempoed music that has dominated for the last 15 years? If he does, I give him the highest praise possible and will definately be on the lookout for his music to purchase. If not, he can kiss my ass just like the rest of the current artists.

I love Van to pieces, but he really only focused on the negitive aspects of the thread

thekidsgirl said:

yeah I though many of the comments about him were quite positive

I've never heard any of his music but I have seen his name brought up from time to time here on the org. Since I've seen some of the cool orgers bring his name up, I figured I'd look for some of his stuff in the record store and had no luck. The fact that I can't find his stuff in my local record store makes me wonder if his stuff is actually good since a record stores like to keep the good stuff out.

NDRU said:

Maybe for the org where we are used to comparing every other artist to Prince and telling he is shit .

thekidsgirl said:

yeah I though many of the comments about him were quite positive

NDRU said:

Well, he mentioned them when he was describing the whole thread. Then he focused on the negative, which is only natural.

Serious said:

exactly, some people were mean, sure, but I've seen much meaner (sometimes about Prince, even)

NDRU said:

Well, he mentioned them when he was describing the whole thread. Then he focused on the negative, which is only natural.

Vanny, I love your music and next time you're in town, I'll be checking you out...but here:


The funny thing about his response is it seems, he thinks he's figured out to hurt a Prince "fan".
That was his target. Unfortunately he's been sucked into the trap and has become just like them (The ones that shoot every non-Prince thing down). It will be interesting to see what happens when he's at some event and looks over and sees Prince...and then it occurs to him that he is a fan, and that it wasn't personal....but it's too late...

Of course, this could all be a publicity thing, too.

What I don't get it why the majority of Prince fans feel like it's okay to shit on his music from a consumer point of view. But when someone else (usually in the industry) comes out and says the same shit that yall drone on and on about after every new Prince release, then it's sacrilege and the one who voiced their opinion isn't justified to say so.

This is a good example of that as well as the whole D'Angelo/Saul Williams'Voodoo liner notes fiasco. There's nothing Van Hunt said that isn't true. He's actually saying more about the narrowmindedness of the hardcore Prince fans than he is about Prince. He still acknowledges Prince as an incredible talent and entertainer.

I give the man props for actually responding to it through words and expression. Maybe he should retort by recording a track called V.F.U.N... Oh nevermind, that didn't work out too well for someone else did it?

Van Hunt is a nobody and couldn't even wear Prince's jock strap. That much is fact. I think Prince wrote more quality songs than Van Hunt ever has, even if Prince only ever released one album. To say that Prince doesn't write good songs anymore is ridiculous. The problem is that Prince doesn't release them. You also have to stretch pretty far to bash Prince for not being a consistent songwriter, simply because Prince is so prolific he writes and records constantly. With all of his creations, of course it isn't going to be all the same quality. The same is true of any prolific artist, such as Woody Allen, who also faces the same scrutiny. The fact is the Van Hunt is a nobody.

anon said:

This has got to be one of the most craziest things I've read on here so far.
So what you are saying is that by Van Hunt trying to defend his craft he is trying to hurt the fans here. Let me tell you nothing compares to the hurt and pain that your "royal one" has already imposed on the few fans he has left. But
then again maybe you've forgotten that he wants this site to stop its operations and that he has had or is trying to have his videos removed for places such as you tube.
The only thing I have a beef with Mr. Hunt about is that he has wasted much of
his valuable time responding to a whole bunch of losers who are stuck in the
eighties, when rather he could be making more wonderful music.

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I can take Van Hunt's "music" as seriously as I take his argument. Not at all. For some unknown artist to expect "critical immunity" and then go on to say some negative things about an artist who's been in the game for 30 years is just stupid. I think Van Hunt is a very stupid person. Aside from that, he's never done anything on the scale of Prince and 99% of people have never even heard of him. He expect critical immunity but he really has musical immunity because he's never done anything important or changed music in any way. And that's the truth. Next topic, please!

lspear76 said:

Were we reading the same thing? Van doesn't expect immunity and I really don't see the bashing of Prince or the bashing of Prince fans that some of you are seeing.

Who cares if 99% of people never hear of him? That same 99% are like "Prince who?" right now.

Stymie said:

Yeah, it seems he does...or if not him, those defending him seem to think so. The argument that "he's responding to a thread on HIS OWN blog" What kind of logic could make someone even write that?
It would be different if it were in his diary, but um...hello, HIS OWN BLOG is a public thing. Van isn't stupid. He knows better.

anon said:

I don't think anyone could logically expect immunity, the artist or his fans. Some people live for that type of stuff: criticizing just for the sake of criticizing. Hell, this is a Prince site and look what folks say about him here.

I can't spek for anyone but myself. I am a music lover. I listen to everything. Van isn't the most amazing artist out there but some of his stuff blows me away. He's entltled to his opinion.

Stymie said:

I agree with you on much of that, and everyone is entitled to an opinion, but we're talking about a different argument.
But it doesn't really matter much. People only see what they want to.

As for Van, he can get away with this type rant now, because he can play the "under dog" card. That may even be a wave he can ride...but slighting Prince the way he did. That's just dumb. People can defend him, but when he sobered, he knew it was wrong too.

It's not like he's 20 and he didn't know better. He's only 15 years younger than Prince. He's not even young enough for Prince to marry. There are no excuses.

It's not like he's 20 and he didn't know better. He's only 15 years younger than Prince.

anon said:

we'll have to agree to respectfully disagree. I don't see where Van is slighting Prince at all.

Stymie said:

You're right. When someone says they "fast forward through your guitar solos" it's because they love your work.

Stymie said:

You're right. When someone says they "fast forward through your guitar solos" it's because they love your work.