missfee said: Naw she doesn't have a biography out yet, nor a movie with major stars in it. Plus nobody's beating her ass after shows and performing on stage with black eyes. So no, she don't even equal up to the legend. Beyonce is like a prissy, spoiled princess compared to Anna Mae Bullock.
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Harlepolis said: Beyonce is TOO clean, TOO calculated, TOO boring and TOO pretentious to be somebody like Anna Mae Bullock.
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purplesweat said: missfee said: Naw she doesn't have a biography out yet, nor a movie with major stars in it. Plus nobody's beating her ass after shows and performing on stage with black eyes. So no, she don't even equal up to the legend. Beyonce is like a prissy, spoiled princess compared to Anna Mae Bullock.
So I don't get it...she has to be bashed up before she's considered worthy? uhhh nooo, what i'm saying is that Anna Mae Bullock had a lot more issues to face and yet still was a musical performer at her best. It was unfortunate that she was abused, but she didn't let it stop her. If Jay even slapped Beyonce you know the first call she'll make is to daddy. I just think that she doesn't have enough experience to even be compared to the legend of Tina Turner. She's good, not great. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: purplesweat said: So I don't get it...she has to be bashed up before she's considered worthy? uhhh nooo, what i'm saying is that Anna Mae Bullock had a lot more issues to face and yet still was a musical performer at her best. It was unfortunate that she was abused, but she didn't let it stop her. If Jay even slapped Beyonce you know the first call she'll make is to daddy. I just think that she doesn't have enough experience to even be compared to the legend of Tina Turner. She's good, not great. It still sounds to me as though you're saying an artist can't be considered "great" unless they've been through hell and back. I know it gives you experience and learning skills etc but really, if Beyonce's good at what she does, she doesn't need to go through hard times to be considered better by the public. | |
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purplesweat said: missfee said: uhhh nooo, what i'm saying is that Anna Mae Bullock had a lot more issues to face and yet still was a musical performer at her best. It was unfortunate that she was abused, but she didn't let it stop her. If Jay even slapped Beyonce you know the first call she'll make is to daddy. I just think that she doesn't have enough experience to even be compared to the legend of Tina Turner. She's good, not great. It still sounds to me as though you're saying an artist can't be considered "great" unless they've been through hell and back. I know it gives you experience and learning skills etc but really, if Beyonce's good at what she does, she doesn't need to go through hard times to be considered better by the public. Hi Jess | |
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theodore said: purplesweat said: It still sounds to me as though you're saying an artist can't be considered "great" unless they've been through hell and back. I know it gives you experience and learning skills etc but really, if Beyonce's good at what she does, she doesn't need to go through hard times to be considered better by the public. Hi Jess Hey AletO | |
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purplesweat said: theodore said: Hi Jess Hey AletO orgnote time | |
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theodore said: purplesweat said: Hey AletO orgnote time :john: | |
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purplesweat said: missfee said: uhhh nooo, what i'm saying is that Anna Mae Bullock had a lot more issues to face and yet still was a musical performer at her best. It was unfortunate that she was abused, but she didn't let it stop her. If Jay even slapped Beyonce you know the first call she'll make is to daddy. I just think that she doesn't have enough experience to even be compared to the legend of Tina Turner. She's good, not great. It still sounds to me as though you're saying an artist can't be considered "great" unless they've been through hell and back. I know it gives you experience and learning skills etc but really, if Beyonce's good at what she does, she doesn't need to go through hard times to be considered better by the public. True. While I am not a fan of Beyonce, I think she will go down as one of the icons of her generation. | |
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VelvetJ said: L4OATheOriginal said: hell 2 the nizzaw she'll never b a legend like tina is But the thing is, she will be a legend in the eyes of THIS Generation. This generation's standards of GREATNESS are different than ours....and that is ok. Though I think Beyonce is terribly overrated, she is one of the best out there today and she has made sure she is consistently relevant over the years. That alone will garner her the label of Legend. ur words ring true since she'll never have the legacy that is required 2 enter the rock n roll hall of fame unless they lower their standards man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Hell, she's not even the Rockwell of her generation. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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KidaDynamite said: L4OATheOriginal said: she's still whack compared 2 her influences Baseball..... beyonce and the pedophile ..... now the music world can move 4ward man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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vainandy said: Hell, she's not even the Rockwell of her generation.
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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missfee said: purplesweat said: So I don't get it...she has to be bashed up before she's considered worthy? If Jay even slapped Beyonce you know the first call she'll make is to daddy. Why do ppl try to slight Beyoncé for having her father as her manager like it's a bad thing she grew up with her father in the home. Ashanti, Brandy, Usher, Jessica Simpson, Kanye (before she died) don't get the same slack and they have parent/managers. love is a fate resigned memories mar my mind love it is a fate resigned Over futile odds and laughed at by the Gods and now the final frame Love is a losing game | |
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Scorpion said: missfee said: If Jay even slapped Beyonce you know the first call she'll make is to daddy. Why do ppl try to slight Beyoncé for having her father as her manager like it's a bad thing she grew up with her father in the home. Ashanti, Brandy, Usher, Jessica Simpson, Kanye (before she died) don't get the same slack and they have parent/managers. Those parents who develop bad reputations in the industry will cause problems for their children. Jessica Simpson certainly gets the same shit. "Papa Joe", anyone? [Edited 1/16/08 8:26am] | |
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lowkey said: sure she is,why not. i've never been to crazy about tina turner in the first place and i dont think she did nothing so great where some people are acting like its a crime to compare beyonce to her.she basically shaked and gyrated alot, had alot of energy and wore short dresses with high heels..beyonce does all that and she sings better
I agree, but compare what beyonce sings, to what Tina sung. It's Shit vs. Gold. Let Beyonce get some good songs, before we start comparing her to anyone outside of her generation. | |
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Beyoncé in the same sentence as Tina Turner just feels wrong. | |
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purplesweat said: theodore said: orgnote time :john: | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: 2ndRevolution said: I truly think so. In fact, I usually say that to people when talking about her. I want some of ya'll to stop getting mad. This always happens in music. It's called "passing the torch". The new school gets something from the old school. Beyonce' isn't trying to be or replace Tina, but in terms of showmanship and all that, I truly think she is.
i don't think tina ever did this in her career tho [Edited 1/16/08 8:02am] GOD DAMN!! Of course Tina didn't do that, Tina had Ike to push her down the steps. http://prince.org/msg/100/263154?&pg=2
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2ndRevolution said: L4OATheOriginal said: i don't think tina ever did this in her career tho [Edited 1/16/08 8:02am] GOD DAMN!! Of course Tina didn't do that, Tina had Ike to push her down the steps. well was this ike at the top of the stairs? man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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lilgish said: lowkey said: sure she is,why not. i've never been to crazy about tina turner in the first place and i dont think she did nothing so great where some people are acting like its a crime to compare beyonce to her.she basically shaked and gyrated alot, had alot of energy and wore short dresses with high heels..beyonce does all that and she sings better
I agree, but compare what beyonce sings, to what Tina sung. It's Shit vs. Gold. Let Beyonce get some good songs, before we start comparing her to anyone outside of her generation. are you talking about the songs ike had her singing, or the rock oriented songs she did during her comeback? im not a tina fan so i really dont know alot of her songs other then the big hits(whats love got to do,private dancer,ect), i heard the ike and tina songs when i saw the movie and i think she was much better back then. i agree beyonce hasnt really had a song that i would remember once the radio stops playing it but she's a pop star and her audience dont want music they have to think about | |
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She's not even the best drummer in the Beatles.. This is not an exit | |
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Cinnamon234 said: Lol I'm DEFINITELY not saying Beyonce is as talented as Tina, i'm not that crazy now . However I do see so many similarities between the two as far as their stage persona's go.
the reason you are seeing this is because Hollywood does this all the time with actors and musicians. If you look at the actors we have today there was someone before them with the same look and feel. It doesnt make the newbies the blah blah blah of this era. Its just that hollywood doesnt' know where to go with things and they only know how to recycle what has worked in the past. Theres some guy who looks like Chevy Chase in that film where three guys dress like girls on campus. That guy thats in the transformers, there was a previous actor who looked like him. Everyone who you may think is new (or even old now) has someone that paralleled them in the past. | |
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funkpill said: Cinnamon234 said: Lol I'm DEFINITELY not saying Beyonce is as talented as Tina, i'm not that crazy now . However I do see so many similarities between the two as far as their stage persona's go.
I feel whatcha' saying This one reminds alot of Tina http://www.youtube.com/wa...gbQHWxsP64 only because they evoke that image | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: vainandy said: Hell, she's not even the Rockwell of her generation.
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purplesweat said: missfee said: uhhh nooo, what i'm saying is that Anna Mae Bullock had a lot more issues to face and yet still was a musical performer at her best. It was unfortunate that she was abused, but she didn't let it stop her. If Jay even slapped Beyonce you know the first call she'll make is to daddy. I just think that she doesn't have enough experience to even be compared to the legend of Tina Turner. She's good, not great. It still sounds to me as though you're saying an artist can't be considered "great" unless they've been through hell and back. I know it gives you experience and learning skills etc but really, if Beyonce's good at what she does, she doesn't need to go through hard times to be considered better by the public. well it really doesn't matter to me what you think i'm saying, i know what i'm saying. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Cinnamon234 said: funkpill said: Ohh yes absolutely! The first time I saw the video for "Work It Out", I immediately thought of Tina.Here is a performance of Beyonce singing "Proud Mary" at the 2005 Kennedy Center honoring Tina (Singing "I idolize You" would have probably been more appropriate for Beyonce to sing tho ). However, I have to say that Beyonce did a great job here. She definitely did her thang so I can't hate! http://www.youtube.com/wa...YtnNk7xCRE But It's funny though because when Beyonce was in Destiny's Child I never got the feeling she was trying to be Tina, but when she became a solo artist it seemed like she started to pattern almost all her performances after Tina's. [Edited 1/13/08 1:16am] [Edited 1/13/08 1:17am] actually i remember watching making the video of Work it out and that white dress i believe beyonce said used to belong to Tina Turner. Anyone seen the youtube vid of beyonce singing proud mary with Tina watching her in the audience i think it was a tribute to Tina Business Manager to Cat Glover. | |
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Vanilli said: Harlepolis said: Beyonce is TOO clean, TOO calculated, TOO boring and TOO pretentious to be somebody like Anna Mae Bullock.
Thats an unfair comparision to Beyonce. While I agree with what Cinnamon234 said, as far as them being the same, style wise, I think it boils down to....Turner being Beyonce's Michael Jackson to Timberlake. See what I mean? I think today star's don't have original ideas, as far as image/style/music..so they..pick someone and try to copy them. Justin - MJ with a dash of Prince Usher - MJ with a dash of Bobby Brown Britney - Madonna straight up Beyonce - Tina?? Sounds about right to me. none of that sounds right. if anyone is the tina of our generation its janet.sexy older woman from the era before thats still doin the damn thing(and doin it well) and just happens to be a fantastic dancer. beyonce is definately the diana ross of this genertion.she even looks like her a lil. britney is NO madonna.madonna had artisitc integrity and would stage public spectacles not be a spectacle. mariah is more madonna like if just for the simple fact that she cant seem to keep out of the number one position.but she aint..she's mariah, jt is george micheal.why u may ask.he's a white guy from a pop band that made it big solo singing r&b music.and is pretty good at it. usher is mj. there really is no madonna or prince of this era. beyonce is diana | |
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