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PrintableJackieBlue said: I'm undecided on the Ciara remix. I sorta like it but it sounds like a cut and paste job.
Luv is cute not only does it sound like a song any girl could sing, it's incredibly juvenile not just in concept but arrangement. It sounds like something that should have been on her debut album right after Young Love. It reminds me of a filler not a single. 
yeah, im ready for another track leak Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: midnightmover said: Just heard Rock With U and Luv. Hold your breath. Here's the verdict.
Rock With U: Love the retro '80s groove, but that "Ooo, ooo" bit makes me cringe. Ne-Yo was obviously too busy to write a full lyric so he just put "insert "ooos" here" instead. The melody on the verse is decent, but it would have been nice if they could have written a more definite chorus. Hearing her sing a more traditional melody really shows up her vocal weakness though. She's starting to get into Vanity/Appolonia territory on this track. Surely she's taken some singing lessons by now? Luv: Get the fuck outta my face with this shit! Nice beat though. "Ooo, ooo, ooo/ Ooo, ooo/ Ooo, ooo, ooo/ Ooo, ooo" 
[Edited 2/4/08 7:34am] yeah they arent up to par even with "Sexhibition" or "Damita Jo" damita jo did not sound like a janet song to me when I first heard it, though it slowly grew on me. Sexhibition is awesome, something about it was prince-y to me too, that's probably why you liked it LOL I wish janet would have continued to do a few more songs with Dallas Austin. | |
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alphastreet said: paisleypark4 said: yeah they arent up to par even with "Sexhibition" or "Damita Jo" damita jo did not sound like a janet song to me when I first heard it, though it slowly grew on me. Sexhibition is awesome, something about it was prince-y to me too, that's probably why you liked it LOL I wish janet would have continued to do a few more songs with Dallas Austin. 
but leave the "Just a Little While" vibe alone... If you take the best of All For You, Damita Jo, and 20 YO and make on cd, you have what rivals "The Velvet Rope" as Janet's best album IMHO. you aint right all for you when we oooo better days sexhibition strawberry bounce r&b junkie i want you like you dont love me put your hands on so excited do it 2 me enjoy take care love 2 love mmmm..mmmm.... I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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VoicesCarry said: From the February Parade interview (Janet is on the cover):
JANET JACKSON has attacked her father JOE for cheating on her mother and having affairs when she was young. The Nasty singer admits she still has no idea how her mother Katherine put up with her husband's infidelities - and she'll never forgive her dad for having an illegitimate child with a Jackson 5 fan. In a fierce new Parade magazine interview, the normally coy pop superstar rages about her love rat father and pays tribute to her mother's strength. She says, "It's a very cold world, and to have gone through what she has had to experience, from having polio as a child to those things with my brother Michael, and then for my father to have had another child. "I've been cheated on a lot. I know what that feels like and how that hurts the heart. But, I mean, to give us a half-sister, I can't even fathom what that's like for mother. "For her to stay with my father all these years and never abandon her kids, that's true love." I always thought "Parade" was just publicist bull crap (in order words, nothing interesting). I guess I'm wrong. That's some interesting stuff! | |
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badujunkie said: alphastreet said: damita jo did not sound like a janet song to me when I first heard it, though it slowly grew on me. Sexhibition is awesome, something about it was prince-y to me too, that's probably why you liked it LOL I wish janet would have continued to do a few more songs with Dallas Austin.
but leave the "Just a Little While" vibe alone... If you take the best of All For You, Damita Jo, and 20 YO and make on cd, you have what rivals "The Velvet Rope" as Janet's best album IMHO. you aint right all for you when we oooo better days sexhibition strawberry bounce r&b junkie i want you like you dont love me put your hands on so excited do it 2 me enjoy take care love 2 love mmmm..mmmm.... Problem is, it was three seperate albums and the last two had a lot of filler. I think "Damita Jo" gets a bad rap and I go back and forth on it myself. First I kind of dug it then got really sick of it, then got the Japanese edition and was in love again! It's a mixed bag and you just got to attach yourself to what you love and like, not what you don't. | |
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The album's not good, let's just face it. I don't know where you Jackson Fans get off, but apparently it isn't with legal-age adults.
I think most of the people saying they enjoy it are only fantasizing about a new Jackson era, which after 05, just isn't going to happen. My  | |
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2Jay said: The album's not good, let's just face it. I don't know where you Jackson Fans get off, but apparently it isn't with legal-age adults.
I think most of the people saying they enjoy it are only fantasizing about a new Jackson era, which after 05, just isn't going to happen. My Well, don't worry about where WE Jackson fans get off! You don't like it, fine so be it. Plenty upon plenty of artists for you and others to choose from. I like her shit along with Prince and others. So freakin' what?! Prince ain't selling like he use to. That doesn't stop him from making albums. Why should it? Same with Janet or any other artist from the 80s! Just my two cents. | |
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2Jay said: The album's not good, let's just face it.
Right, because clearly you've heard it. | |
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VoicesCarry said: From the February Parade interview (Janet is on the cover):
JANET JACKSON has attacked her father JOE for cheating on her mother and having affairs when she was young. The Nasty singer admits she still has no idea how her mother Katherine put up with her husband's infidelities - and she'll never forgive her dad for having an illegitimate child with a Jackson 5 fan. In a fierce new Parade magazine interview, the normally coy pop superstar rages about her love rat father and pays tribute to her mother's strength. She says, "It's a very cold world, and to have gone through what she has had to experience, from having polio as a child to those things with my brother Michael, and then for my father to have had another child. "I've been cheated on a lot. I know what that feels like and how that hurts the heart. But, I mean, to give us a half-sister, I can't even fathom what that's like for mother. "For her to stay with my father all these years and never abandon her kids, that's true love." Damn, none of the Jacksons have talked about their half sister(with the exclusion of Michael who counts her when he talks about the number of kids his father had) "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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is that pic from the rhythm natiion or janet era times? | |
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New pics from Parade magazine:
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VoicesCarry said: New pics from Parade magazine:
All the pics remind me of Rebbie when she released that 1997 album. | |
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Some of the interview:
'Success Is a Gift From God' When asked what molded her moral character, Janet Jackson credits her parents' insistence on work, her self-discipline and her mother's faith By Dotson Rader Published: February 5, 2008 Janet Jackson is one of popular music's biggest stars, having sold more records than any female recording artist--with the exception of Mariah Carey. Publicly, she is the sexy songstress with a knowing wink. Privately, she lives a very different life. Janet Jackson, in reality, is not like her public persona. She is more the modest, upright, self-disciplined woman her devoutly Christian mother raised her to be. On Her Working Childhood “My parents have close to three acres at home in Encino (Calif.), and tons of trees in their yard,” Janet tells me. “We children had lots of chores. On Saturday morning, we’d get up and rake the entire yard. Then we’d take out the garbage. When my brothers were on the road, I’d be the one taking out the garbage because my sister La Toya would say to me, ‘Mother wants you to do this.’” Janet is the youngest of the nine Jackson siblings. “I’d think, ‘I’m sure doing a lot of the chores all by myself,’” she continues. “When I’d ask Mother, ‘Do you want me to do this myself?’ She'd go, ‘No, baby, I said for both you and La Toya to do it.’ La Toya was putting all her chores on me!" “But I’m thankful for all the chores we had to do around the house,” she says. “I think that’s one of the things that helped us stay grounded. As a child, I had to get up early for school or work. I’d get ready by myself. I’d set my alarm to wake me up very early in the morning, and be off to work, the family driver driving me every morning. I did it alone, my parents never coming in to wake me up. By age seven, I used to comb my hair for performances, just pull my hair up into a bun. Granted, it wasn’t a very intricate hairstyle. Still, to be that responsible and disciplined at age seven is unusual." “After school, I’d come home and get in the kitchen and cook up a meal for myself,” she boasts. “Because I was too little to reach the oven or the stove, I’d stand on top of a swivel chair, cut up onions, garlic, butter, chicken or a little steak and put it in foil and make it. We children worked and still went to school. Mother made sure we still had a little playtime." On Staying Grounded and Doing Your Best “Mother always talked to us about keeping our feet on the ground,” Janet recalls. “Be thankful. Success is a gift from God. That doesn’t necessarily mean that what you are doing right now will last forever." “When I was younger, I thought you had to be in control of your own life,” she says. “That takes a lot of discipline, hard work and focus. You just can’t let it all fall by the wayside. Later on, I learned that God is really in control of everything. But you still have to put your best foot forward and be the best you can possibly be." “I feel everyone is put here for a reason,” she states. “Everyone has a calling. I always thought my real calling was to help other people.” Janet Jackson has long been active in supporting charities, especially those dedicated to helping the victims of AIDS. On Her Faith “Jehovah’s Witnesses was the religion we were raised under,” Jackson says. “I’d get up on Sunday mornings, go to the Kingdom Hall, go again on Thursday night and go to book study on Tuesdays, because that was my mother’s routine." "I believe in God. I feel that spiritual connection. But, most of the time, I didn’t pay attention in the Kingdom Hall. I was asleep. I know that’s awful. I was so tired, so busy, so knocked out, I’d fall asleep. My mother would hit me on my thigh to wake me up. ‘Baby, wake up!’ she’d say, ‘Wake up and close your legs! You have on a dress!’" “So, I’d wake up and close my legs. A few minutes later, somehow I’d be asleep again and my head would fall back and my legs open up. Mother would nudge me." On Growing Up in a 'Religious World' “Being a Jehovah’s Witness, you grow up in a very religious world,” she continues. “But as a kid I loved Prince and The Time, one of my favorite groups, and would listen to them all the time even though you’re not supposed to do that." "When I was 16, I was promoting my first album and I went with Mother to see The Time’s concert with Prince. I did not want to sit next to Mother because I knew they were dirty. I was trying to be cool and calm, but oh my God, I was sweating bullets! How am I going to sit at this show and watch Vanity Six and Prince and The Time and sit next to Mother?” She laughs. “She’s going to think, ‘Good Lord, what is my baby into? She really needs more of God in her life! Where did I go wrong?’ I could just hear Mother blaming herself for everything! Luckily, I got someone else to swap seats with me so I was able to enjoy the show and have the same great time I would’ve had if I were there without Mother." | |
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alphastreet said: is that pic from the rhythm natiion or janet era times?
Earlier...probably even pre-Control. | |
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Well i see a stylist finally stepped in, like the one that stepped in when Mariah moved to Def Jam. Janets biggest mistakes previously would be that she would say in interviews "please forget the superbowl already" and then pose on magazine covers holding her breasts, which really showed the double standard, and i know someone stepped in and said "Janet, its time you start playing the game again, the whole, look my breasts thing is done". "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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VoicesCarry said: alphastreet said: is that pic from the rhythm natiion or janet era times?
Earlier...probably even pre-Control. but she barely showed skin before control. Ok I know she showed cleavage in when I think of you, and wore that red prom dress, but I'm usually good at being able to tell which era janet pics are from, but I'm stumped on this one. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Some of the interview:
On Growing Up in a 'Religious World' “Being a Jehovah’s Witness, you grow up in a very religious world,” she continues. “But as a kid I loved Prince and The Time, one of my favorite groups, and would listen to them all the time even though you’re not supposed to do that." "When I was 16, I was promoting my first album and I went with Mother to see The Time’s concert with Prince. I did not want to sit next to Mother because I knew they were dirty. I was trying to be cool and calm, but oh my God, I was sweating bullets! How am I going to sit at this show and watch Vanity Six and Prince and The Time and sit next to Mother?” She laughs. “She’s going to think, ‘Good Lord, what is my baby into? She really needs more of God in her life! Where did I go wrong?’ I could just hear Mother blaming herself for everything! Luckily, I got someone else to swap seats with me so I was able to enjoy the show and have the same great time I would’ve had if I were there without Mother." This is the part that stuck out for me  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: VoicesCarry said: Some of the interview:
On Growing Up in a 'Religious World' “Being a Jehovah’s Witness, you grow up in a very religious world,” she continues. “But as a kid I loved Prince and The Time, one of my favorite groups, and would listen to them all the time even though you’re not supposed to do that." "When I was 16, I was promoting my first album and I went with Mother to see The Time’s concert with Prince. I did not want to sit next to Mother because I knew they were dirty. I was trying to be cool and calm, but oh my God, I was sweating bullets! How am I going to sit at this show and watch Vanity Six and Prince and The Time and sit next to Mother?” She laughs. “She’s going to think, ‘Good Lord, what is my baby into? She really needs more of God in her life! Where did I go wrong?’ I could just hear Mother blaming herself for everything! Luckily, I got someone else to swap seats with me so I was able to enjoy the show and have the same great time I would’ve had if I were there without Mother." This is the part that stuck out for me Yes, Janet has discussed this in the past. I know it is detailed in some of Billboard chart expert Fred Bronson's books. | |
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alphastreet said: VoicesCarry said: Earlier...probably even pre-Control. but she barely showed skin before control. Ok I know she showed cleavage in when I think of you, and wore that red prom dress, but I'm usually good at being able to tell which era janet pics are from, but I'm stumped on this one. It's definitely not the janet. era, and doesn't strike me as Rhythm Nation either. If I had to hazard a guess, I would date it as ca. 1985. | |
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VoicesCarry said: alphastreet said: but she barely showed skin before control. Ok I know she showed cleavage in when I think of you, and wore that red prom dress, but I'm usually good at being able to tell which era janet pics are from, but I'm stumped on this one. It's definitely not the janet. era, and doesn't strike me as Rhythm Nation either. If I had to hazard a guess, I would date it as ca. 1985. It's either from 1987-89 or 91. Remember how she looked in MJ's Private Home Movies special? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Beautiful pictures and interesting interview
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bboy87 said: VoicesCarry said: It's definitely not the janet. era, and doesn't strike me as Rhythm Nation either. If I had to hazard a guess, I would date it as ca. 1985. It's either from 1987-89 or 91. Remember how she looked in MJ's Private Home Movies special? I can see this being 1987, but by 1991 she was much thinner in the face (and everywhere else). In fact she was for most of Rhythm Nation. | |
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bboy87 said: VoicesCarry said: It's definitely not the janet. era, and doesn't strike me as Rhythm Nation either. If I had to hazard a guess, I would date it as ca. 1985. It's either from 1987-89 or 91. Remember how she looked in MJ's Private Home Movies special? I thought of private home videos too when I saw it actually | |
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Nice photos.  | |
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VoicesCarry said: 2Jay said: The album's not good, let's just face it.
Right, because clearly you've heard it. From what i've heard so far, including Feedback on TV and Rock With U in here. Most of it was disco/dance crap. I did somewhat tolerate Discipline the song  | |
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2Jay said: VoicesCarry said: Right, because clearly you've heard it. From what i've heard so far, including Feedback on TV and Rock With U in here. Most of it was disco/dance crap. I did somewhat tolerate Discipline the song Janet is a dance music artist. Of course she is going to make dance "crap". If you don't like dance music, why are you even bothering with this thread?  | |
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Timmy84 said: Nice photos. | |
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VoicesCarry said: 2Jay said: From what i've heard so far, including Feedback on TV and Rock With U in here. Most of it was disco/dance crap. I did somewhat tolerate Discipline the song Janet is a dance music artist. Of course she is going to make dance "crap". If you don't like dance music, why are you even bothering with this thread? ur right. well i guess she should make some depper songas and play an instrument ur 2. | |
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1 I.D. (Interlude) - 0:47
2 Feedback - 3:57 3 Luv - 3:10 4 Spinnin (Interlude) - 0:08 5 Rollercoaster - 3:51 6 Bathroom Break (Interlude) - 0:40 7 Rock With U - 3:52 8 2nite - 4:09 9 Can't B Good - 4:13 10 4 Words (Interlude) - 0:11 11 Never Letchu Go - 4:07 12 Truth or Dare (Interlude) - 0:24 13 Greatest X - 4:23 14 Good Morning Janet (Interlude) - 0:44 15 So Much Betta - 2:53 16 Play Selection (Interlude) - 0:17 17 The 1 - 3:41 18 What's Ur Name - 2:34 19 The Meaning (Interlude) - 1:16 20 Discipline - 5:00 21 Back (Interlude) - 0:18 22 Curtains - 3:50 | |
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