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Thread started 01/10/08 10:36am

daPrettyman

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"For All Time" - Michael Jackson



Here is the new bonus track from the special edition of Thriller. Is it me, or does this song sound like it was recently recorded? What do u guys think?
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U 'gon make me shake my doo loose!
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Reply #1 posted 01/10/08 10:41am

TotalAlisa

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awwww I LOVE THIS song... i was on an MJ forum and this fan made a download of a zipped folder with unreleased rare mj songs and this was in the folder... i had no clue.. but i really liked this song... its beautiful....

why did he release this on his dangerous album???
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Reply #2 posted 01/10/08 10:52am

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daPrettyman said:



Here is the new bonus track from the special edition of Thriller. Is it me, or does this song sound like it was recently recorded? What do u guys think?

Well, he apparantly rerecorded the song for Dangerous, but ended up not using it! The song on Thriller is supposed to be the original version! At least vocally!
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Reply #3 posted 01/10/08 11:11am

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worship!!!!!
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Reply #4 posted 01/10/08 11:16am

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Has anyone heard "Can't Get Outta The Rain", from the Thriller single?
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Reply #5 posted 01/10/08 11:35am

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great song , together with we've had enough one of the beter leaked songs yeah i know we've had enough is released
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Reply #6 posted 01/10/08 11:36am

Timmy84

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Has anyone heard "Can't Get Outta The Rain", from the Thriller single?


Ya mean, the edited version of "You Can't Win", right? It's interesting "can't get outta the game" turned into "can't get outta the rain", lol.
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Reply #7 posted 01/10/08 11:42am

Timmy84

PatrickS77 said:

daPrettyman said:



Here is the new bonus track from the special edition of Thriller. Is it me, or does this song sound like it was recently recorded? What do u guys think?

Well, he apparantly rerecorded the song for Dangerous, but ended up not using it! The song on Thriller is supposed to be the original version! At least vocally!
[Edited 1/10/08 10:53am]


From what I heard, it still sounded like it did during the DANGEROUS period with a new verse from the bridge part.
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Reply #8 posted 01/10/08 11:45am

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Okay MJ completists...I have a major request for y'all.

Can anyone give me a comprehensive list of every non-album, b-side, outtake and alternate track circulating out there?
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Reply #9 posted 01/10/08 11:52am

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this isn't the new bonus track from the 25th edition - or if it is fans are gonna be even more pissed at this release.

this track sounds to me very much the same as the one previoulsy "leaked" from the dangerous sessions - I would expect/hope thriller 25 would include an alternate version from the thriller period. In other words - it's the same song, but is it the same track.

although having said all of that - i'm more interested in the extra bonus track on the Japaneese Thriller 25 which isn't already in wide circulation - in other words an actual new song. Might be crap sure enough but one can only wait and see smile
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Reply #10 posted 01/10/08 11:58am

Timmy84

harbars said:

this isn't the new bonus track from the 25th edition - or if it is fans are gonna be even more pissed at this release.

this track sounds to me very much the same as the one previoulsy "leaked" from the dangerous sessions - I would expect/hope thriller 25 would include an alternate version from the thriller period. In other words - it's the same song, but is it the same track.

although having said all of that - i'm more interested in the extra bonus track on the Japaneese Thriller 25 which isn't already in wide circulation - in other words an actual new song. Might be crap sure enough but one can only wait and see smile


Yeah, "Got the Hots", I think, is the one on the Japanese edition of T25. Unfortunately I think this is the bonus track. Good little pop ballad but for this longtime MJ fan, I knew about it on the computer years ago. lol I still wonder what the alternate verse is gonna be. Maybe they should just leak it. February 12 ain't but weeks away. lol
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Reply #11 posted 01/10/08 12:00pm

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harbars said:

this isn't the new bonus track from the 25th edition - or if it is fans are gonna be even more pissed at this release.

this track sounds to me very much the same as the one previoulsy "leaked" from the dangerous sessions - I would expect/hope thriller 25 would include an alternate version from the thriller period. In other words - it's the same song, but is it the same track.

although having said all of that - i'm more interested in the extra bonus track on the Japaneese Thriller 25 which isn't already in wide circulation - in other words an actual new song. Might be crap sure enough but one can only wait and see smile




1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2. Baby Be Mine
3. The Girl Is Mine (with Paul McCartney)
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
9. The Lady In My Life
10. Vincent Price (bonus track)
11. The Girl Is Mine 2008 with will.i.am ( Previously Unreleased Track For 25th Anniversary Edition )
12. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) 2008 with Michael Jackson and will.i.am ( Previously Unreleased Track For 25th Anniversary Edition )
13. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 2008 with Michael Jackson, Akon and will.i.am( Previously Unreleased Track For 25th Anniversary Edition )
14. Beat It 2008 with Fergie( Previously Unreleased Track For 25th Anniversary Edition )
15. Billie Jean 2008 with Kanye West ( Previously Unreleased Track For 25th Anniversary Edition )
16. . For All Time (unreleased track from original Thriller sessions) ( Previously Unreleased Track For 25th Anniversary Edition )
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Reply #12 posted 01/10/08 12:18pm

TotalAlisa

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SunnySkies said:

Has anyone heard "Can't Get Outta The Rain", from the Thriller single?

that song is hilarious... it reminds me of "you can't win" lol lol lol it sounds like a song off the wiz soundtrack
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Reply #13 posted 01/10/08 12:26pm

Timmy84

TotalAlisa said:

SunnySkies said:

Has anyone heard "Can't Get Outta The Rain", from the Thriller single?

that song is hilarious... it reminds me of "you can't win" lol lol lol it sounds like a song off the wiz soundtrack


Because it IS "You Can't Win". wink
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Reply #14 posted 01/10/08 12:33pm

TotalAlisa

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Timmy84 said:

TotalAlisa said:


that song is hilarious... it reminds me of "you can't win" lol lol lol it sounds like a song off the wiz soundtrack


Because it IS "You Can't Win". wink

YOu obviously have NOT heard the song "you can't get out of the rain" lol lol lol that is a real song... it is NOT "you can't win"

i thought the same thing too... but i later found out "you can't get of the rain" is an unreleased song...

so just check upon your MJ stuff okay hug


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Reply #15 posted 01/10/08 12:34pm

Timmy84

TotalAlisa said:

Timmy84 said:



Because it IS "You Can't Win". wink

YOu obviously have NOT heard the song "you can't get out of the rain" lol lol lol that is a real song... it is NOT "you can't win"

i thought the same thing too... but i later found out "you can't get of the rain" is an unreleased song...

so just check upon your MJ stuff okay hug


Whatever. lol Can't Get Out of the Rain is part two of You Can't Win. You don't have the Ultimate Collection, I presume. So YOU check on your MJ stuff. lol

And besides it ain't like a track from an early period isn't a b-side of a newer track. I don't understand why people deny this, lol.
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Reply #16 posted 01/10/08 12:36pm

TotalAlisa

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Timmy84 said:

TotalAlisa said:


YOu obviously have NOT heard the song "you can't get out of the rain" lol lol lol that is a real song... it is NOT "you can't win"

i thought the same thing too... but i later found out "you can't get of the rain" is an unreleased song...

so just check upon your MJ stuff okay hug


Whatever. lol Can't Get Out of the Rain is part two of You Can't Win. You don't have the Ultimate Collection, I presume. So YOU check on your MJ stuff. lol

And besides it ain't like a track from an early period isn't a b-side of a newer track. I don't understand why people deny this, lol.
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you said "can't get out of the rain" is "you can't win" and its NOT "you can't win" ...it is part two.. but its still NOT the same song... lol lol lol

there is no need to waist my money on the ultimate collection when i have all bough his cds... and even downloaded unreleased songs that i got from MJ fans...

so maybe if you want to waist money on buying the same stuff over again you can.. or buy it for a few unreleased songs you can get for free or download the mp3... then fine wink
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Reply #17 posted 01/10/08 12:41pm

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daPrettyman said:

16. . For All Time (unreleased track from original Thriller sessions) ( Previously Unreleased Track For 25th Anniversary Edition )


sure, I'm aware of this - what I'm saying is how do we know the dodgy youtube above *is* the track on the CD which isn't available yet? It could simply be the old leaked track. sounds like it to me. I'm not saying it's not the same *song* - but is it the same cut?
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Reply #18 posted 01/10/08 12:43pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



Whatever. lol Can't Get Out of the Rain is part two of You Can't Win. You don't have the Ultimate Collection, I presume. So YOU check on your MJ stuff. lol

And besides it ain't like a track from an early period isn't a b-side of a newer track. I don't understand why people deny this, lol.
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you said "can't get out of the rain" is "you can't win" and its NOT "you can't win" ...it is part two.. but its still NOT the same song... lol lol lol

there is no need to waist my money on the ultimate collection when i have all bough his cds... and even downloaded unreleased songs that i got from MJ fans...

so maybe if you want to waist money on buying the same stuff over again you can.. or buy it for a few unreleased songs you can get for free or download the mp3... then fine wink
[Edited 1/10/08 12:39pm]


Uh-huh... right. giggle
Whatever you say, I'm still sticking to what I said. wink
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Reply #19 posted 01/10/08 12:43pm

Timmy84

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daPrettyman said:

16. . For All Time (unreleased track from original Thriller sessions) ( Previously Unreleased Track For 25th Anniversary Edition )


sure, I'm aware of this - what I'm saying is how do we know the dodgy youtube above *is* the track on the CD which isn't available yet? It could simply be the old leaked track. sounds like it to me. I'm not saying it's not the same *song* - but is it the same cut?


In Layman's terms, yes.
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Reply #20 posted 01/10/08 12:50pm

harbars

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Yeah, "Got the Hots", I think, is the one on the Japanese edition of T25. Unfortunately I think this is the bonus track. Good little pop ballad but for this longtime MJ fan, I knew about it on the computer years ago. lol I still wonder what the alternate verse is gonna be. Maybe they should just leak it. February 12 ain't but weeks away. lol



Ahh, got the hots - hmmm - i'm pretty sure i've heard that. dissapointed, again.

I'm a bit pissed - I mean all these "bonus" tracks which are already out there. I simply don't beleive "they" don't know that stuff is out there and maybe it is a good way of re-releasing stuff without doing any work.Bit cheap if you ask me - if "they" really wanted a "special special edition thriller" - i.e. a rerelease of a rerelease - which is what it is give us some dang new tunes.

I love the dude's music but I would like more - not the shit i got already smile
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Reply #21 posted 01/10/08 12:53pm

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Timmy84 said:

TotalAlisa said:



you said "can't get out of the rain" is "you can't win" and its NOT "you can't win" ...it is part two.. but its still NOT the same song... lol lol lol

there is no need to waist my money on the ultimate collection when i have all bough his cds... and even downloaded unreleased songs that i got from MJ fans...

so maybe if you want to waist money on buying the same stuff over again you can.. or buy it for a few unreleased songs you can get for free or download the mp3... then fine wink
[Edited 1/10/08 12:39pm]


Uh-huh... right. giggle
Whatever you say, I'm still sticking to what I said. wink


you also waisting your money....lol lol lol I have almost all those unreleased songs.. from the ultimate collection... so why should i buy it???
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Reply #22 posted 01/10/08 12:54pm

harbars

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In Layman's terms, yes.


What evidence is there of this? u have the CD?
If it is I ain't buying that's fo sure!
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Reply #23 posted 01/10/08 1:02pm

harbars

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Uh-huh... right. giggle
Whatever you say, I'm still sticking to what I said. wink[/quote]


Indeed smile it really is very funny to suggest that CGOTR is not an edit of YCW. No need to spend any money anywhere other than maybe back in the day on the original 7 or 12" that featured YCW or the girl is mine 7" that epic deliberatly retitled it on.

Like everybody knew back in '82 they were the same - and then Matt Forger confimed it later.
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Reply #24 posted 01/10/08 1:02pm

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as far as i know the new version on the album hasnt leaked and the only versions on youtube are the older versions that have been leaked confused
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Reply #25 posted 01/10/08 1:07pm

Timmy84

TotalAlisa said:

Timmy84 said:



Uh-huh... right. giggle
Whatever you say, I'm still sticking to what I said. wink


you also waisting your money....lol lol lol I have almost all those unreleased songs.. from the ultimate collection... so why should i buy it???


Because you're cheap. razz

J/P. lol
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Reply #26 posted 01/10/08 1:08pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:




Uh-huh... right. giggle
Whatever you say, I'm still sticking to what I said. wink



Indeed smile it really is very funny to suggest that CGOTR is not an edit of YCW. No need to spend any money anywhere other than maybe back in the day on the original 7 or 12" that featured YCW or the girl is mine 7" that epic deliberatly retitled it on.

Like everybody knew back in '82 they were the same - and then Matt Forger confimed it later.
giggle[/quote]

Exactly!!!! highfive
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Reply #27 posted 01/10/08 1:09pm

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harbars said:

Timmy84 said:




Uh-huh... right. giggle
Whatever you say, I'm still sticking to what I said. wink



Indeed smile it really is very funny to suggest that CGOTR is not an edit of YCW. No need to spend any money anywhere other than maybe back in the day on the original 7 or 12" that featured YCW or the girl is mine 7" that epic deliberatly retitled it on.

Like everybody knew back in '82 they were the same - and then Matt Forger confimed it later.
giggle[/quote]
I never said it was NOT... i just said they aren't the same exact song... I don't get the joke.... they sound similar but aren't exact...
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Reply #28 posted 01/10/08 1:15pm

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Maybe...JUST MAYBE, the song you're hearing in sound quality is choppy compared to the one I got. Because when I heard it, it was like it was either edited in some degree or the sound quality is choppy but it's the same old song. They just brought in the b-side of "You Can't Win" and re-titled it. I wish YouTube had both versions (You Can't Win and "Can't Get Out of the 'Game'") so we can finally put it to rest. lol
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Reply #29 posted 01/10/08 1:15pm

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Okay MJ completists...I have a major request for y'all.

Can anyone give me a comprehensive list of every non-album, b-side, outtake and alternate track circulating out there?



Almost certainly not a complete list - from memory. not including numerous rumored outtakes that have never seen the light

shake your body demo
you cant win (from the wiz not really a non album track if u count the wiz ost)
sunset driver
don't stop demo
working day n night demo
wbss demo
girl is mine demo
billie jean demo
lamer Vincent price extra verse
trouble
niteline
Carousel (aka Circus Girl)
Hot street
state of shock (with Freddie)
there must be more to than life than this
fly away
streetwalker
cheater
someone put your hand out
todo mi amor eres tu (spanish just cant stop)
todo para ti (french just can't stop)
for all time
monkey business
if you don't love me
serious effect
she's got it
work that body
a whole bunch of demos of tracks that ended up on dangerous
earth song - original from dangerous sessions
BOTD demo - numerous ones
we are the world just mike and piano
scared of the moon
PYT - Mike;s original different tune
we are here to change the world
Xscape
We've had enough
beautiful girl
in the back
some others from late 90s - early 2000s on the ultimate collection i can't remember the names
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