lastdecember said:

But Lord help us if any of these people should go on strike for 7 or 8 months. I could care less about some TV show going on hiatus as apposed to not having the police to protect me from the inevitable increase in crime that will arise after it's mentioned that the police are on strike. People will have to homeschool their kids if teachers strike... They can keep striking, because I have no problem watching old movies, TV shows in syndication, and reality TV. That new show, "Jail" is cool as hell.
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estelle81 said:

Yeah and I got On Demand. So really fuck Hollyflop.

estelle81 said:

Sooner or later the actors are gonna attack the writers in protest that they can't get work. Sucks to be them...NOT!

estelle81 said:

Well isnt the fight just over dvd/youtube/iTunes sales of the shows that they wrote, they dont get money from that? the networks do and producers etc.. but when they are sold the writers dont get that, their contract was up and this was one of the new things they wanted added, because if its not, than why bother. Even if reality tv took over, their will still have to be the same sort of unions and agreements, sad to say, reality shows (though they do employ writers and editors) are a form of cheap labor so the networks can exist and the higher ups can get fatter.

lastdecember said:

If both parties knew the internet would mean big business in the millennium, then they should've been on that shit so whatever. Now they wanna fight the powers that be NOW?!

lastdecember said:

Exactly, which is why I think this strike is pretty pointless. These big company executives will just hire cheap labor and continue to fill their pockets even more. How much more do these writers think they will get if the companies agree to their terms? If they want a portion of internet sales, than they have to share them with the internet companies as well as the original parties. This could mean be a big payoff or just a couple dollars more than they were originally making. It had better be worth it because many of them aren't making any money now and this strike is just screwing the fans of these shows more than the companies and producers.

estelle81 said:

A long time ago, reality TV became the number-one form of entertainment so the writers complained a little too late. The strike will end in seven months with no resolution whatsoever.

Timmy84 said:

If I see an actor start beating one of the writers with one of those picket signs, I don't think I'll be able to stop laughing. I await the day when songwriters choose go on strike for whatever reason.

estelle81 said:

LOL!

I can see it now:
CLOONEY ATTACKS STRIKING WRITER FOR STEPPING ON FOOT
Actors in standstill with striking writers

Timmy84 said:

The actors will go on strike against the writers and movie companies, and then the fans will go on strike against all their asses. The fans are the only people that matter anyway, because without fans no celebrity, film writer, artist, or record or film company is even relevant. Damn it, I'm going on strike now because I've had to watch some pretty garbage shows and shitty films that they made look good in the commercials. Liars! Here's my picket sign for them...

estelle81 said:

I'm with you on there, buddy!

Timmy84 said:

Timmy84 said:

World Wide Pants owns the Late Show With Dave Letterman, CBS just broadcasts it.

Late Night with Jay Leno is owned by NBC.

World Wide Pants reached a deal with the screenwriters

NBC isn't talking to the guild.

that's the difference.

Timmy84 said:

The Screen Actors guild have a strike scheduled for the summer if the companies don't pony up.

so actully the Actors are supporting the guild becasue they will be striking on the same thing come july.

ehuffnsd said:

That's still a H.A.M. (Hot Ass Mess)

Timmy84 said:

i think i got lost and missed a couple posts but what do actors have to do with the grammys?

sosgemini said:

nothing, though this thread isn't about the Grammy's anymore.

sosgemini said:

Not a goddamn thing.

You people need to get caught up on the whole writers strike issue, as the results of this will have reverberation not just for the writers and actors or even Hollywood itself but the whole labor movement. If the producers win this strike over internet issues, then we are essentially creating a whole new sharecropper system. The networks and movie studios go around trumpeting that the average screenwriter's salary is $250,000 a year, but that takes into account the salaries for David Letterman, Jay Leno, Tina Fey, Oliver Stone, and other superstars who are already big time actors, directors and producers in their own right in addition to being writers. The median income for Hollywood writers, which is far more accurate then what the producers have said, is $45,000 a year, which is just barely getting but for most writers' families (assuming that the spouse also holds down a full-time job). And that doesn't take into account union dues that they have to pay so they can get benefits. If the networks and studios are willing to screw the very creative community which comes up with the scripts that make their shows possible, how do you think they will treat the Screen Actors Guild, who bring these movies to life, let alone the IATSE, who represents the technical crews, the set designers, the costume designers, and the other ancillary unions covered under the Teamsters and Carpenters Unions? BTW, much of the benefits paid to the members of the IATSE come from a fund paid by the WGA and SAG from the residuals they get from movie and TV show sales.

Now as for the Grammys themselves, they are theoretically at risk of not going on air during the strike, but they can simply go without a host as they have done for four of the last five years. And considering some of the horribly scripted banter that they have provided the presenters (who usually screw it up anyway), they are probably better off without writers anyway. Also, because this is a music awards show, very few of the presenters or nominees are likely to be SAG members, so they would be less inclined to honor the WGA picket line. And because they would be attending an awards show that honors music and not movies or television shows, it would make little sense for the WGA to make a ruckus over the Grammys.

728huey said:

I am caught up on the whole strike thing and I still don't care as there are way more important things in the world than this. There is no way the writers are not going to win this thing.

Stymie said:

In all honesty, there won't be a winner in this thing.

Timmy84 said:

and i still won't care.

Stymie said:

I'll be somewhere going @ all of 'em.

sosgemini said:

Like i said this will come down to who will stand with whom, those singers who also act, Justin,Alicia,Beyonce etc.. will most likely be asked to perform since they are nominated, but where will they stand, it will come down to that more than down to the "grammy show doesnt need writers" the artists may want to make a statement by not going on, especially if they are artists who often challenge the system, which would someone like Bruce Springsteen, who despite 3 nominations will most likely not attend, though he hasnt be asked yet anyway, but may stay away from it because he has always been on the side of the worker in these fights. Like it was pointed out before writers do not make 250,000 a year, that is a dream, if you take out every actor,host that is a writer, the writers make about 40,000 a year average, which i hope they are living alone on that, because thats the only way that is affordable.

The writer's strike has threatened to do some major damage to one of the music industry's biggest nights of the year. Now, it's official. There will be a picket line at next month's 50th Anniversary Grammy Award ceremony and many musicians won't cross it.

The Writers Guild of America (WGA) said Monday (Jan. 14) that it won't grant a waiver for the CBS telecast, according to Variety. And it told the Screen Actors Guild (SAG) that attendees will have to cross a picket line on Feb. 10 at Los Angeles' Staples Center to attend the event, if the strike is still on.

As SOHH previously reported, a strike may cause the WGA's musical allies to pull out of the show.

"The WGA has informed us that this is struck work, and they expect to have a picket line in place," a SAG spokesman said. "In those circumstances, our members have been unwilling to cross a picket line, and we anticipate that solidarity will continue."

This year's Grammys may have to go on without some of it's biggest stars. Beyonce, T.I., 50 Cent, Alicia Keys, Usher, Queen Latifah, Fergie, Justin Timberlake and Fantasia are among those nominated musicians who have appeared in films and on TV. On top of that the gala usually features a substantial amount of actors presenting awards. The show will have have to go on without them as well.

The Grammys could claim the same fate as last Sunday's Golden Globes. That show didn't receive a waiver either and all nominees in acting categories vowed they would not cross a WGA picket line. The event was relegated to basic news conference status, nixing the celeb jokes and banter and whittling the show down to little more than reading the nominees and winners.

The WGA has already cancelled its own awards show scheduled for Feb. 9 and the Feb. 24 Oscar's is still uncertain, but the guild indicated last month that it wouldn't grant a waiver if requested.

Good! The Grammys are so awful these days,they should just cancel it altogether.

banks said:

Wow...

But then again, the Grammys have not been worth watching for some time now.

Well a quick UPDATE on this situation, sort of, well now the Grammys has another issue besides the fact of who will actually be on the show if theres a show. One of the Grammys top nominees Amy Whinehouse, got her invitation, however she isnt going to be allowed a Visa to get into this country due to her ongoing arrests and drug issues. The CBS Network and the shows obviously want her for the ratings (lets be serious, if Britney was nominated they would want her up there in a straightjacket performing for ratings). But as it looks now this show might not even happen, or if it does it will be an announcement type thing, with probably Ryan Searcrest and Paris Hilton telling who won or something like that. The fact of the matter is that only 10 awards out of close to 100+ are even given on the show, so the show is nothing more than a concert, but since most of the singers are also actors at times, they might sit this one out. If this show gets cancelled i cant wait to hear Kanye's reaction, you know hes gonna make this about him and/or race.

lastdecember said:

is this coming from you are is it an article?