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PrintableJackieBlue said: twink69 said: she's gone for a style as opposed to fashion,which is good, there is no expectation! Imagine Gwen Stefani getting her outfits wrong as many times as Mariah? or having the same hair since 95, she'd be over!
"its what's underneath that really counts here and she knows it.. Not even Andre Leon Talley could curve her ways, bless her for sticking to what she wants, I think if Vogue and the whole fashion world declared that short skirts and high heels were the worst thing you could wear, she wouldnt stop! Its almost punk'ish of her   She's that friend that you just can't tell her what to wear. She's going to wear what she wants regardless!
Altho I don't mind her casual outfits like in Aspen and stuff. I think she looks rather smart and fashionable. I've never seen so many people have a problem with tight jeans in my life. I've seen tighter. I've *worn* tighter! | |
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JackieBlue said: twink69 said: True she could never please all her fans, although I have a friend who's a writer said that her work is very cohesive, that she has actually crafted her own sound (mostly through vocal styling and vocal production and tracking) This is interesting to me because this is why she appeals to me. Some songs are great, some aren’t, but once Mariah gets her hands on it, there’s just something about it... I was listening to a playlist of hers on a long drive awhile back and I hadn’t listened to much Mariah at the time, but that’s when I realized, she has her own sound. I can’t define it like a Sade sound, but she has something going on that’s not really like anyone else. This is partly why I don’t have a tremendous amount of fear when I hear she’s working with people I’d rather her not. yeah that and there isnt anyone who sound like her at all (closest I have heard is Vivian Greens verses on her song "Music" you could be forgiven to think it was Mariah! apart from that no one sounds remotely like her, not even all these people they say sound like Mariah clones, Christina A, Jessica S, Kelly Clarkson or anyone from the past..From the first vocal lick, you know its her.. | |
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VoicesCarry said: JackieBlue said: She's that friend that you just can't tell her what to wear. She's going to wear what she wants regardless!
Altho I don't mind her casual outfits like in Aspen and stuff. I think she looks rather smart and fashionable. I've never seen so many people have a problem with tight jeans in my life. I've seen tighter. I've *worn* tighter!
So what's the name of the chick in England who's like twenty-something and supposedly sounds like her? They say she might be a threat but sounding like an artist does not a superstar-fashion-icon-diva make. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: lastdecember said: Well i have always loved Mariah, and as with any artist im going to put things down that she does especially when i know and others know she could be doing something better. I mean just look at someone like Prince and how he gets loved and hated for his work that he does by his fans. So with Mariah i have always taken that approach, and at this point i always know how her albums will be, very predictable, so i stop listening to the album and just care how hot she is going to look, im serious about that no joke, where as there was a time where i could care about both with her, the music is almost non-existent at this point because its so predictable. I find her look predictable more than anything. The music not as much. She surprised me a little on Mimi. But I don't think predicatability is necessarily a bad thing--unless the music just sucks, of course. With some artists you pretty much know what you’re going to get but if you like that, then it’s no problem. I guess this album will be the most telling since she claims it’s her favorite but if LA is putting the kibosh on things who knows what we’ll get in the end. But what if there isn't more? What if she's already scraped the bottom of the barrel? This is pretty much it folks. I used to think there was more from another certain female pop star then it just struck me, "this is pretty much it:". Well her look to me is her's mainly because no one would do the things she does, no one would dress her way, no one would wear a dress that was the shortest thing in history and tighter than anything ever, to a function for Disney! Musically she has become more predictable in the years because its all formula, her albums seem to all have this similar blueprint to them, down to things like "hip producer this year" "hip rapper this month" "cover song" though on MIMI she didnt do a cover, this is why her albums have no real identity, if someone mentioned a non-single, even fans would be, which album is that on?? Its just an artistic flaw that she has. I mean i think we can all pretty safely assume that Maraih wouldnt come out with a strong heavy dance-track with a guitar in the background, but whats troubling is that we can predict that she will never do it. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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JackieBlue said: VoicesCarry said: I've *worn* tighter!
So what's the name of the chick in England who's like twenty-something and supposedly sounds like her? They say she might be a threat but sounding like an artist does not a superstar-fashion-icon-diva make. Leona Lewis. Doesn't sound a thing like her. She's your average AI-styled balladeer. | |
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JackieBlue said: VoicesCarry said: I've *worn* tighter!
So what's the name of the chick in England who's like twenty-something and supposedly sounds like her? They say she might be a threat but sounding like an artist does not a superstar-fashion-icon-diva make. Leona Lewis, I dont think sound alike, well at least I didnt think "is that Mariah" thats what I consider sounding like someone though..Leona has potential, her album was bland! excpet that first single | |
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lastdecember said: As a mariah fan from before day one, Mariah will always be someone that is a let down with her albums, and her music. She still has yet to create that IT album which is scary since she is 18 years into her career, but she hasnt done it. As big as her sales and singles have been they have also been forgettable for the most part, Mariah is that person that always gives you 80%, she has the talent and potential but never puts it into practice all the way. MIMI though her commercial comeback was a let down, it was like a step back once again, it was like an artist afraid of not being successful so she said "i'll sing whatever", and with the exception of a few good performances on the record, Mariah's stronger material will never be pushed. Tracks like "Subtle Invitation" or "My Saving Grace" should be lead singles, she should be dictating at this point in her career rather than following as she so often does. Mariah has lost "vision" to maintain this "commercial success" which at this point seems totally forced.
My saving grace is extremely boring... and that subtle invitation sounds like a song off the mimi album... from what you are saying... you don't even sound like a fan... You just like this woman because of her looks..... I remember on a janet thread you mention you used to like janet before her music went down.... (as if you really like an artist because of their music) and then you say mariah's music never really was it for you... so why are you even or still a "fan"...??? anyways you have the most negative thing to say about her albums.... Her albums are not "bad" or whatever you said about... YES i think her last two album including Charmbracelet and Mimi was okay IMO .... but pre-99 she had some awesome albums that you could listen to most of the stuff... like butterfly, daydream and even music box... I think most of her number ones are her best songs... with an exception "love takes times, i don't wanna cry", I'll be there, Hero, and don't forget about us.... I never understand you logic... most fans and non fans love her number 1s... those are always the best songs on her albums... |
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I just read the actual post, I was like "what is this anyway?"
LA Reid, actually chose Say Somethin' as the first single which she didnt like , and didnt take off, and then she chose "Its like that" which I would have agreed with L.A S.S was the better song,but there you go.. I thought It's like that' was so bad as first single and average as a song(excpet in a club, I was "ahh that what it sounds like) damn my cheap speakers, it sounded like a hot vibrating mess of too much bass and rattle) . [Edited 1/10/08 13:24pm] | |
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TotalAlisa said: lastdecember said: As a mariah fan from before day one, Mariah will always be someone that is a let down with her albums, and her music. She still has yet to create that IT album which is scary since she is 18 years into her career, but she hasnt done it. As big as her sales and singles have been they have also been forgettable for the most part, Mariah is that person that always gives you 80%, she has the talent and potential but never puts it into practice all the way. MIMI though her commercial comeback was a let down, it was like a step back once again, it was like an artist afraid of not being successful so she said "i'll sing whatever", and with the exception of a few good performances on the record, Mariah's stronger material will never be pushed. Tracks like "Subtle Invitation" or "My Saving Grace" should be lead singles, she should be dictating at this point in her career rather than following as she so often does. Mariah has lost "vision" to maintain this "commercial success" which at this point seems totally forced.
My saving grace is extremely boring... and that subtle invitation sounds like a song off the mimi album... from what you are saying... you don't even sound like a fan... You just like this woman because of her looks..... I remember on a janet thread you mention you used to like janet before her music went down.... (as if you really like an artist because of their music) and then you say mariah's music never really was it for you... so why are you even or still a "fan"...??? anyways you have the most negative thing to say about her albums.... Her albums are not "bad" or whatever you said about... YES i think her last two album including Charmbracelet and Mimi was okay IMO .... but pre-99 she had some awesome albums that you could listen to most of the stuff... like butterfly, daydream and even music box... I think most of her number ones are her best songs... with an exception "love takes times, i don't wanna cry", I'll be there, Hero, and don't forget about us.... I never understand you logic... most fans and non fans love her number 1s... those are always the best songs on her albums... Actually if you look back i have had positive things to say about her work. Did i say all her hits SUCK no, stop reading what you wanna read. Im not going to say everything she does is great when something SUCKS, sorry, if you like it cool, i dont really care who else likes it, doesnt matter. Her albums to me have always been 80% that doesnt mean they SUCK again didnt say that, but to me 80% is a an artistic flaw that she has always had, many artists have this, Duran Duran would be another, they have never been able to do a full great album, thats just a flaw, again didnt say they SUCK and dont question me as a fan since i was there liking Mariah from day one, actually got into her before i even knew who the hell she was from a 4 track cassette given to me that no one else wanted, and this was 4 months before Vision of Love was even released, so please, dont question my being a Mariah fan because you would be wasting your time, i have always been their for her every release. So calling her song BAD or saying she can do better, is not NOT being a fan, get it straight, i dont have to like every thing she does to be a fan. Also sorry that logic that her number one songs are her best songs is such crap, and she would even tell you the same. when number ones came out she said this is NOT MY GREATEST HITS these are just songs that went to number one, and she said that one day she would do a record with HER FAVORITE SONGS that werent number ones because those MANY TIMES were the better songs. Ok so make sure you read the whole thing and not what you want to read, just saying everything an artist puts out is great is not being a fan. And yes i said that on the last two albums MARIAH was for the most part getting into too much of this lazy rb boring sound, just like i felt Janet got into this same trap on her last two albums which is why both of them i quickly got tired off. For the record heres Mariah at her best..... The Wind Till the End of Time Petals My Saving Grace Lead the Way Last nite a Dj Vision of Love make it happen If its Over Whenever You Call Butterfly Cant let go And as for MARIAHS look, if she didnt want people to LOOK at her than she wouldnt dress that way, common sense, its another part of her. And also i like tons of artists because of their music, so jump off that shit now before i list all the artists i like and take y'all to school. [Edited 1/10/08 13:39pm] "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: TotalAlisa said: My saving grace is extremely boring... and that subtle invitation sounds like a song off the mimi album... from what you are saying... you don't even sound like a fan... You just like this woman because of her looks..... I remember on a janet thread you mention you used to like janet before her music went down.... (as if you really like an artist because of their music) and then you say mariah's music never really was it for you... so why are you even or still a "fan"...??? anyways you have the most negative thing to say about her albums.... Her albums are not "bad" or whatever you said about... YES i think her last two album including Charmbracelet and Mimi was okay IMO .... but pre-99 she had some awesome albums that you could listen to most of the stuff... like butterfly, daydream and even music box... I think most of her number ones are her best songs... with an exception "love takes times, i don't wanna cry", I'll be there, Hero, and don't forget about us.... I never understand you logic... most fans and non fans love her number 1s... those are always the best songs on her albums... Actually if you look back i have had positive things to say about her work. Did i say all her hits SUCK no, stop reading what you wanna read. Im not going to say everything she does is great when something SUCKS, sorry, if you like it cool, i dont really care who else likes it, doesnt matter. Her albums to me have always been 80% that doesnt mean they SUCK again didnt say that, but to me 80% is a an artistic flaw that she has always had, many artists have this, Duran Duran would be another, they have never been able to do a full great album, thats just a flaw, again didnt say they SUCK and dont question me as a fan since i was there liking Mariah from day one, actually got into her before i even knew who the hell she was from a 4 track cassette given to me that no one else wanted, and this was 4 months before Vision of Love was even released, so please, dont question my being a Mariah fan because you would be wasting your time, i have always been their for her every release. So calling her song BAD or saying she can do better, is not NOT being a fan, get it straight, i dont have to like every thing she does to be a fan. Also sorry that logic that her number one songs are her best songs is such crap, and she would even tell you the same. when number ones came out she said this is NOT MY GREATEST HITS these are just songs that went to number one, and she said that one day she would do a record with HER FAVORITE SONGS that werent number ones because those MANY TIMES were the better songs. Ok so make sure you read the whole thing and not what you want to read, just saying everything an artist puts out is great is not being a fan. And yes i said that on the last two albums MARIAH was for the most part getting into too much of this lazy rb boring sound, just like i felt Janet got into this same trap on her last two albums which is why both of them i quickly got tired off. For the record heres Mariah at her best..... The Wind Till the End of Time Petals My Saving Grace Lead the Way Last nite a Dj Vision of Love make it happen If its Over Whenever You Call Butterfly Cant let go And as for MARIAHS look, if she didnt want people to LOOK at her than she wouldnt dress that way, common sense, its another part of her. And also i like tons of artists because of their music, so jump off that shit now before i list all the artists i like and take y'all to school. [Edited 1/10/08 13:39pm] Whatever... i always hear negative things about her music from YOU.... the only positive things i hear about mariah coming from you are about her legs and almost everyone in hollywood has nice legs...
just clam down... its NOT even that serious... this is NOT a life or death situation to where you should get bent out if.. someone doesn't think you're a fan.. and its not like you will meet her or date her... so calm down... half the songs you listed are very great songs... just as nice as most of her number 1s |
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TotalAlisa said: lastdecember said: Actually if you look back i have had positive things to say about her work. Did i say all her hits SUCK no, stop reading what you wanna read. Im not going to say everything she does is great when something SUCKS, sorry, if you like it cool, i dont really care who else likes it, doesnt matter. Her albums to me have always been 80% that doesnt mean they SUCK again didnt say that, but to me 80% is a an artistic flaw that she has always had, many artists have this, Duran Duran would be another, they have never been able to do a full great album, thats just a flaw, again didnt say they SUCK and dont question me as a fan since i was there liking Mariah from day one, actually got into her before i even knew who the hell she was from a 4 track cassette given to me that no one else wanted, and this was 4 months before Vision of Love was even released, so please, dont question my being a Mariah fan because you would be wasting your time, i have always been their for her every release. So calling her song BAD or saying she can do better, is not NOT being a fan, get it straight, i dont have to like every thing she does to be a fan. Also sorry that logic that her number one songs are her best songs is such crap, and she would even tell you the same. when number ones came out she said this is NOT MY GREATEST HITS these are just songs that went to number one, and she said that one day she would do a record with HER FAVORITE SONGS that werent number ones because those MANY TIMES were the better songs. Ok so make sure you read the whole thing and not what you want to read, just saying everything an artist puts out is great is not being a fan. And yes i said that on the last two albums MARIAH was for the most part getting into too much of this lazy rb boring sound, just like i felt Janet got into this same trap on her last two albums which is why both of them i quickly got tired off. For the record heres Mariah at her best..... The Wind Till the End of Time Petals My Saving Grace Lead the Way Last nite a Dj Vision of Love make it happen If its Over Whenever You Call Butterfly Cant let go And as for MARIAHS look, if she didnt want people to LOOK at her than she wouldnt dress that way, common sense, its another part of her. And also i like tons of artists because of their music, so jump off that shit now before i list all the artists i like and take y'all to school. [Edited 1/10/08 13:39pm] Whatever... i always hear negative things about her music from YOU.... the only positive things i hear about mariah coming from you are about her legs and almost everyone in hollywood has nice legs...
just clam down... its NOT even that serious... this is NOT a life or death situation to where you should get bent out if.. someone doesn't think you're a fan.. and its not like you will meet her or date her... so calm down... half the songs you listed are very great songs... just as nice as most of her number 1s Oh really look back to a post that pointed at how GLITTER was where she finally stepped away from the normal and invested in a new sound and did something different, doesnt sound like i was trashing her. Well the truth is and this is a known fact the people that love you the most, hate you the most, so when i point out something i dont like with Mariah its because i know she could do something better, will she ever do something different, yeah probably when she is in her 40's. Im going to criticize Mariah when i want because thats my place, im a fan i bought the records went to the shows bought the singles, dvds etc.. so will she care if i say "shake it off" is a sucky song compared to her other stuff, NO, but at the same time im not going to like something that to me is something anyone with no talent can do, thats my point, in past years she has seemed to lower herself at times. As for her Legs, jesus christ, you make it seem like im the only one that noticed her legs in history, she won awards on the damn things, she obviously knows she has them since she kind of dresses to feature them, so they obviously will be commented on. And no way EVERYONE has nice legs in Holywood they may think they do but they aint even in the ballpark  "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: TotalAlisa said: Whatever... i always hear negative things about her music from YOU.... the only positive things i hear about mariah coming from you are about her legs and almost everyone in hollywood has nice legs...
just clam down... its NOT even that serious... this is NOT a life or death situation to where you should get bent out if.. someone doesn't think you're a fan.. and its not like you will meet her or date her... so calm down... half the songs you listed are very great songs... just as nice as most of her number 1s Oh really look back to a post that pointed at how GLITTER was where she finally stepped away from the normal and invested in a new sound and did something different, doesnt sound like i was trashing her. Well the truth is and this is a known fact the people that love you the most, hate you the most, so when i point out something i dont like with Mariah its because i know she could do something better, will she ever do something different, yeah probably when she is in her 40's. Im going to criticize Mariah when i want because thats my place, im a fan i bought the records went to the shows bought the singles, dvds etc.. so will she care if i say "shake it off" is a sucky song compared to her other stuff, NO, but at the same time im not going to like something that to me is something anyone with no talent can do, thats my point, in past years she has seemed to lower herself at times. As for her Legs, jesus christ, you make it seem like im the only one that noticed her legs in history, she won awards on the damn things, she obviously knows she has them since she kind of dresses to feature them, so they obviously will be commented on. And no way EVERYONE has nice legs in Holywood they may think they do but they aint even in the ballpark I agree with you on that... cause i can be critical too... but Mariah and her camp where the ones "hyping" her legs up.. NO one even mention her legs until she started calling them a "rarity".... so of course those people gave her award.. but it benefited them.. by bring a celeb to attract more attention to their product.. and not necessarily for mariah... same thing with jlo.. NO one said she had a big booty.. until she started talking about it herself.. and jennifer lopez has been around for a long time... and when she deiced to talk about her butt... it was smaller then it was when she first started.... oh and..JLO does NOT have a big butt... so its mariah and her fans.. just the same with jlo hyping themselves up.... Not everyone in Hollywood has nice legs... but there are so many that I believe look better then mariahs... YOu even taught yourself to believe mariah has the best... |
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SoulAlive said: "I'm The Chick You Like"??
 doesn't sound too promising.
"it's a midtempo record" Of course it is.Today's R&B artists don't know any other tempo Hope they come to some agreement. So far, things have been working out really well between Carey and Def Jam. | |
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TotalAlisa said: lastdecember said: Oh really look back to a post that pointed at how GLITTER was where she finally stepped away from the normal and invested in a new sound and did something different, doesnt sound like i was trashing her. Well the truth is and this is a known fact the people that love you the most, hate you the most, so when i point out something i dont like with Mariah its because i know she could do something better, will she ever do something different, yeah probably when she is in her 40's. Im going to criticize Mariah when i want because thats my place, im a fan i bought the records went to the shows bought the singles, dvds etc.. so will she care if i say "shake it off" is a sucky song compared to her other stuff, NO, but at the same time im not going to like something that to me is something anyone with no talent can do, thats my point, in past years she has seemed to lower herself at times. As for her Legs, jesus christ, you make it seem like im the only one that noticed her legs in history, she won awards on the damn things, she obviously knows she has them since she kind of dresses to feature them, so they obviously will be commented on. And no way EVERYONE has nice legs in Holywood they may think they do but they aint even in the ballpark I agree with you on that... cause i can be critical too... but Mariah and her camp where the ones "hyping" her legs up.. NO one even mention her legs until she started calling them a "rarity".... so of course those people gave her award.. but it benefited them.. by bring a celeb to attract more attention to their product.. and not necessarily for mariah... same thing with jlo.. NO one said she had a big booty.. until she started talking about it herself.. and jennifer lopez has been around for a long time... and when she deiced to talk about her butt... it was smaller then it was when she first started.... oh and..JLO does NOT have a big butt... so its mariah and her fans.. just the same with jlo hyping themselves up.... Not everyone in Hollywood has nice legs... but there are so many that I believe look better then mariahs... YOu even taught yourself to believe mariah has the best... I will say there are some that look on the same level as Mariahs, but i didnt have to teach myself to think she had one of the best. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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That title, if it is actually a lyric in the song, sounds pretty damn gutter | |
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PricelessHo said: so far it's just a rumor.
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lastdecember said: TotalAlisa said: My saving grace is extremely boring... and that subtle invitation sounds like a song off the mimi album... from what you are saying... you don't even sound like a fan... You just like this woman because of her looks..... I remember on a janet thread you mention you used to like janet before her music went down.... (as if you really like an artist because of their music) and then you say mariah's music never really was it for you... so why are you even or still a "fan"...??? anyways you have the most negative thing to say about her albums.... Her albums are not "bad" or whatever you said about... YES i think her last two album including Charmbracelet and Mimi was okay IMO .... but pre-99 she had some awesome albums that you could listen to most of the stuff... like butterfly, daydream and even music box... I think most of her number ones are her best songs... with an exception "love takes times, i don't wanna cry", I'll be there, Hero, and don't forget about us.... I never understand you logic... most fans and non fans love her number 1s... those are always the best songs on her albums... Actually if you look back i have had positive things to say about her work. Did i say all her hits SUCK no, stop reading what you wanna read. Im not going to say everything she does is great when something SUCKS, sorry, if you like it cool, i dont really care who else likes it, doesnt matter. Her albums to me have always been 80% that doesnt mean they SUCK again didnt say that, but to me 80% is a an artistic flaw that she has always had, many artists have this, Duran Duran would be another, they have never been able to do a full great album, thats just a flaw, again didnt say they SUCK and dont question me as a fan since i was there liking Mariah from day one, actually got into her before i even knew who the hell she was from a 4 track cassette given to me that no one else wanted, and this was 4 months before Vision of Love was even released, so please, dont question my being a Mariah fan because you would be wasting your time, i have always been their for her every release. So calling her song BAD or saying she can do better, is not NOT being a fan, get it straight, i dont have to like every thing she does to be a fan. Also sorry that logic that her number one songs are her best songs is such crap, and she would even tell you the same. when number ones came out she said this is NOT MY GREATEST HITS these are just songs that went to number one, and she said that one day she would do a record with HER FAVORITE SONGS that werent number ones because those MANY TIMES were the better songs. Ok so make sure you read the whole thing and not what you want to read, just saying everything an artist puts out is great is not being a fan. And yes i said that on the last two albums MARIAH was for the most part getting into too much of this lazy rb boring sound, just like i felt Janet got into this same trap on her last two albums which is why both of them i quickly got tired off. For the record heres Mariah at her best..... The Wind Till the End of Time Petals My Saving Grace Lead the Way Last nite a Dj Vision of Love make it happen If its Over Whenever You Call Butterfly Cant let go And as for MARIAHS look, if she didnt want people to LOOK at her than she wouldnt dress that way, common sense, its another part of her. And also i like tons of artists because of their music, so jump off that shit now before i list all the artists i like and take y'all to school. [Edited 1/10/08 13:39pm] Those songs, definitely  | |
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twink69 said: Shake it off' had fans, alot of non Mariah fans, I hope it really is "part 2" next level Mimi, That was the first album that she really broke her old formula, it didnt sound like a Mariah album, not a single MOR ballad anywhere and she sang like soul singer.
I really hope though they didnt forget (or maybe it was just a few of us) but the heart of that album and what made it so listenable was the soul tracks ...tracks 4 onwards excluding Too floor and Get yo number. the JD tracks were added by request of the label after it was recorded and during, imagine what the real vision for it was and the tracks those replaced (ie When I feel it) Sad but her best work wont come until she's irrelevant and doesnt have to care about sales, however she knows how to make a good pop/r&b album,just for fans like us, we been there with her, but these new and some young fans its all new.. When I Feel It. It seemed like it was gonna be a warm very musical record b4 the JD tracks. Im glad most of em made it through. Every song on it was good except for One And Only. lame.. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: twink69 said: Shake it off' had fans, alot of non Mariah fans, I hope it really is "part 2" next level Mimi, That was the first album that she really broke her old formula, it didnt sound like a Mariah album, not a single MOR ballad anywhere and she sang like soul singer.
I really hope though they didnt forget (or maybe it was just a few of us) but the heart of that album and what made it so listenable was the soul tracks ...tracks 4 onwards excluding Too floor and Get yo number. the JD tracks were added by request of the label after it was recorded and during, imagine what the real vision for it was and the tracks those replaced (ie When I feel it) Sad but her best work wont come until she's irrelevant and doesnt have to care about sales, however she knows how to make a good pop/r&b album,just for fans like us, we been there with her, but these new and some young fans its all new.. When I Feel It. It seemed like it was gonna be a warm very musical record b4 the JD tracks. Im glad most of em made it through. Every song on it was good except for One And Only. lame.. I always forget about this song. Where can I get it? Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: paisleypark4 said: When I Feel It. It seemed like it was gonna be a warm very musical record b4 the JD tracks. Im glad most of em made it through. Every song on it was good except for One And Only. lame.. I always forget about this song. Where can I get it? check your messages in 10 mins | |
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paisleypark4 said: twink69 said: Shake it off' had fans, alot of non Mariah fans, I hope it really is "part 2" next level Mimi, That was the first album that she really broke her old formula, it didnt sound like a Mariah album, not a single MOR ballad anywhere and she sang like soul singer.
I really hope though they didnt forget (or maybe it was just a few of us) but the heart of that album and what made it so listenable was the soul tracks ...tracks 4 onwards excluding Too floor and Get yo number. the JD tracks were added by request of the label after it was recorded and during, imagine what the real vision for it was and the tracks those replaced (ie When I feel it) Sad but her best work wont come until she's irrelevant and doesnt have to care about sales, however she knows how to make a good pop/r&b album,just for fans like us, we been there with her, but these new and some young fans its all new.. When I Feel It. It seemed like it was gonna be a warm very musical record b4 the JD tracks. Im glad most of em made it through. Every song on it was good except for One And Only. lame.. To the Floor + Say Somethin' + Get Your Number =  | |
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JackieBlue said: lastdecember said: As a mariah fan from before day one, Mariah will always be someone that is a let down with her albums, and her music. She still has yet to create that IT album which is scary since she is 18 years into her career, but she hasnt done it. As big as her sales and singles have been they have also been forgettable for the most part, Mariah is that person that always gives you 80%, she has the talent and potential but never puts it into practice all the way. MIMI though her commercial comeback was a let down, it was like a step back once again, it was like an artist afraid of not being successful so she said "i'll sing whatever", and with the exception of a few good performances on the record, Mariah's stronger material will never be pushed. Tracks like "Subtle Invitation" or "My Saving Grace" should be lead singles, she should be dictating at this point in her career rather than following as she so often does. Mariah has lost "vision" to maintain this "commercial success" which at this point seems totally forced.
You constantly state this about Mariah but you should be clear that this is your opinion as many of her fans would and have disagree(d). As a fan from day one maybe you still don’t get her. [Edited 1/10/08 11:12am] I agree. Because I thought it was universal across the board that her creative peak came with the "Butterfly" album. It's sometimes a toss between Butterfly and Daydream, but the former usually takes the popular vote. I know that's my favorite MC album too. love is a fate resigned memories mar my mind love it is a fate resigned Over futile odds and laughed at by the Gods and now the final frame Love is a losing game |
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the title is stupid for a woman her age, and sounds desperate. If they want to release that badly, do it later on instead! | |
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lastdecember said: This is what i mean, Mariah is never gonna do something different. Whether this is a rumour or not just that it is a song going on the album its more of this "mid-tempo" stuff she has been doing for over a decade and its really run its course. My guess is they wanna go mid-tempo because the only two singles that worked last time around were "we belong Together" and "Dont forget About Us" which were the same song, as for "Shake it off" it only worked because it was the follow up to "we Belong together" so that was its reason for success. Its gonna be that same ass lazy beat, im guessing she even says something like "we belong together" in the lyrics to remind people. Its a formula, no one is shaking shit up. So far im not impressed with what im hearing from the "divas" and their "new ground"
Mariah should ditch the rappers and the shit-hop producers and go into the studio with some real musicians and make a genuinely soulful album.How many times is she gonna do these midtempo,hip-hop-sounding tracks with a guest rapper appearing in the middle of it? I love songs like "Can't Let Go" and "Fly Like A Bird"....how about more of that?? Just from the title alone,I can already figure out what "I'm That Chick You Like" sounds like. | |
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song title confirmed.
-- New Confirmed Song Title: "I'm That Chick You Like" MariahDailyJournal is able to confirm another new song title from Mariah's upcoming album: I'm That Chick You Like. Reliable sources have revealed to us that the song is said to be L.A. Reid's choice for the first single from the yet untitled album. We are told that Reid had his staff at Island Def Jam vote between two songs and "That Chick" won by 10 or so votes. Apparently, Mariah is currently deciding between "Migrate" and "I'm That Chick You Like" for her first single choice! | |
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PricelessHo said: song title confirmed.
-- New Confirmed Song Title: "I'm That Chick You Like" MariahDailyJournal is able to confirm another new song title from Mariah's upcoming album: I'm That Chick You Like. Reliable sources have revealed to us that the song is said to be L.A. Reid's choice for the first single from the yet untitled album. We are told that Reid had his staff at Island Def Jam vote between two songs and "That Chick" won by 10 or so votes. Apparently, Mariah is currently deciding between "Migrate" and "I'm That Chick You Like" for her first single choice! Both are horrible titles. | |
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VoicesCarry said: PricelessHo said: song title confirmed.
-- New Confirmed Song Title: "I'm That Chick You Like" MariahDailyJournal is able to confirm another new song title from Mariah's upcoming album: I'm That Chick You Like. Reliable sources have revealed to us that the song is said to be L.A. Reid's choice for the first single from the yet untitled album. We are told that Reid had his staff at Island Def Jam vote between two songs and "That Chick" won by 10 or so votes. Apparently, Mariah is currently deciding between "Migrate" and "I'm That Chick You Like" for her first single choice! Both are horrible titles.  This is the worst news thus far. Ever.
But I'll take Migrate over That Chick You Like. That Chick... screams hot ghetto mess. And damn me, I'll probably like it.  Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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