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Reply #30 posted 01/10/08 10:19am

TotalAlisa

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Rodya24 said:

Cinnie said:



What's your problem? He posted a new article from the media.


Is it just me or does Justin Timberlake look extremely ugly in that picture? He looks like he had not showered for quite some time.

I never noticed him until you mentioned it today lol lol
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Reply #31 posted 01/10/08 11:18am

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TotalAlisa said:

VoicesCarry said:

This is part of Janet's biography on the IDJ website.

Sitting across from a roaring fireplace on winter afternoon in Vail, Janet is curled up on a dark leather couch as she discusses the unlikely topic of Discipline, the title of her new album. Beyond the floor-to-ceiling window, long graceful branches of towering trees are heavy with snow. In the distance, a lift carries skiers up an imposing mountain awash in white. Janet's wearing a midnight-black sweat suit, her hair pulled back to the nape of her deck. Her body language is relaxed and her eyes are smiling. She's trim, and also a little hoarse, having just fought off a cold. The whisper-quiet texture of her voice adds to the intimacy of the conversation.

"Discipline has been much on my mind," she says. "It's the idea that unifies the songs on this record. As a concept, and even a lifestyle, discipline goes extremely deep. It can be applied to so much about ourselves. In my case, I see it as one of defining aspects of my character. Discipline was there for me from the start. But it was not until this record that I began to understand its full meaning. "In putting Discipline out front-- as both the title of the album and title of a song about sexual surrender--I wanted to announce that I was venturing into new creative waters. That meant working with producers like Jermaine Dupri, Rodney Jerkins, and Ne-Yo, whose songs spoke to the immediacy of my emotions. Like all my records, this one, whether intentional or not, has autobiographical roots. It's difficult for me to work any other way. I don't feel it, if I don't believe it, I can't sing it.

"So Discipline, as a storyline, begins in my childhood which someone could see as a classic study in discipline. Discipline was part of a family culture that I absorbed. I was born with it. "I also believe that discipline has given me the confidence to jump out of the nest. When L.A. Reid, Chairman of Island Def Jam, and I discussed co-executive producing this record, we both agreed that the feeling had to adventuresome and fresh. I was interested in exploring musical scenarios-some exotic, many erotic, but all deeply emotional. I wanted to push the envelope. And I'm glad that `Discipline,' both as a song and an album, does just that."




OH GOD.... always about sex.... my goosh can she just leave that alone for a minute..... its annoying... cause there is more important things to life then that.... what about the world comming to an end...

this has put out some of the sparks i had for JJ... cause i don't want to hear another album about her having sex with JD>... NO one wants to think about that...


if you have a problem with janet talking about sex then how did you even become a fan? sex has been her theme since the janet. album, it didnt seem to become a problem until she became a problem after nipplegate.i still dont see the big difference in her lyrics from janet. to damito jo, i mean 'your smooth and shiney feels so good against my lips' is just as blatant as anything from 'all for you' or 'damita jo'.
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Reply #32 posted 01/10/08 11:51am

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VoicesCarry said:

sosgemini said:



yeah...i was afraid this was going to be pushed as a "Control Part 2". lol

but, im not totally sold...how can the theme of feedback be new? its still about sex. confused


I think she will still talk about sex, just not in the ruefully explicit manner of the past several albums. Love and sex are topics that will always be present in her work (in the work of most artists, it seems), and I have no problem if she addresses them, as long as it's done well, which really hasn't been the case for some time.

Hey, we agree on something. lol I've never had a problem with her sexual lyrics. My issue has always been the quality of the writing. "Feedback" is certainly an improvement in that area. Mainly because someone's obviously put their foot down and demanded that outside writers be brought in. A move that was long overdue.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #33 posted 01/10/08 12:01pm

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VoicesCarry said:



I am going to wait and see what the album is like and judge it on its own terms, instead of extrapolating from the first single. Feedback is intended to re-launch her career as a hitmaker, nothing more, and it seems to be doing its job. I think her talk about new creative waters, at least in this interview, has more to do with her dumping Jam & Lewis and working with different producers like Rodney and Ne-Yo than it does with thematic elements. It is nice that she actually did explain some of the reasoning behind the album, though. She hasn't talked about her music in this way for some time.



its cute that you are capable of putting aside the warning signs but after the last couple of years i no longer have the patience to deal with the crap that comes out of her mouth. lol it would almost be best if she didn't talk at all.

I agree with you that there's a lot of bullshit being spoken here, but I don't see that as any kind of warning sign. Janet is doing what every artist does when they're promoting a new album, she's hyping it up, and in her case that means bullshitting. She was bulshitting when promoting "Rhythm Nation" too. That's nothing new. Ultimately what matters is how well the producers and songwriters did their work. Janet had no role in writing or producing "Feedback" for instance, so what she says is ultimately just salesmanship.
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Reply #34 posted 01/10/08 12:31pm

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lowkey said:

TotalAlisa said:




OH GOD.... always about sex.... my goosh can she just leave that alone for a minute..... its annoying... cause there is more important things to life then that.... what about the world comming to an end...

this has put out some of the sparks i had for JJ... cause i don't want to hear another album about her having sex with JD>... NO one wants to think about that...


if you have a problem with janet talking about sex then how did you even become a fan? sex has been her theme since the janet. album, it didnt seem to become a problem until she became a problem after nipplegate.i still dont see the big difference in her lyrics from janet. to damito jo, i mean 'your smooth and shiney feels so good against my lips' is just as blatant as anything from 'all for you' or 'damita jo'.


I really did not like Damita Jo.. because of those sick songs... i like a selective songs... I will tell you guys this... i have been an MJ fan since a baby then i noticed janet and became a fan during velvetrope... I saw her on tv with her cute videos and performances.. and i just enjoyed her.... as a child when you hear certain songs you don't realize its about sex... you just like the music and dance... I never got the ablum until i was in highschool cause my mom didn't buy stuff like that for me as a kid... so I NEVER knew the album was about certain topics.. I just liked what i saw on tv....

then i remember buying the all for you album... i was kinda disappointed.. because of some of the lyrics and cursing... actually i was in my room sitting there thinking "I CAN'T BELIEVE JANET SAID THIS"... but neverless.. her performances and videos were so cute... I listen to selected songs from that album.. cause i did enjoy some of her cute songs like "come on get up" and pop/dance music is my favorite genre...

and then damita Jo came out... I WAS EXTREMELY DISGUSTING in her lyrics and songs... and then she showed her boob.... so during that time... i wasn't a true fan anymore... and i was basically complaining and trash talking her... which is why hardly the janet fans on her forums did not like me... and i would get into arguments with them....

Then she came out with 20 Y.O and that album was sooooo cute... Not talking about sex or a guys genitals... and stuff like that... so i enjoyed 20 Y.O it was a friendly album flower

Its her performances that makes me a fan... i LOVE when an artist can put on an amazing show...
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Reply #35 posted 01/10/08 3:16pm

DawnD

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Say what you will but "Feedback" sounds ten times hotter than "Call On Me."
Hopefully it is a sign of good things to come for this album. Woo! biggrin

HOPEFULLY! razz
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Reply #36 posted 01/10/08 3:17pm

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ehuffnsd said:

VoicesCarry said:



I think she will still talk about sex, just not in the ruefully explicit manner of the past several albums. Love and sex are topics that will always be present in her work (in the work of most artists, it seems), and I have no problem if she addresses them, as long as it's done well, which really hasn't been the case for some time.

Discipline and submission sounds like she's bringing back themes started with Velvet Rope a la BDDSM/Kink

I agree. That's the first thing I thought about, THE VELVET ROPE.
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Reply #37 posted 01/10/08 3:19pm

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matthewgrant said:

ehuffnsd said:


Discipline and submission sounds like she's bringing back themes started with Velvet Rope a la BDDSM/Kink


I hope that's the case.

I don't have a problem with all the sex talk, it's fun but she's gotta find a new and sexciting way to talk about it. The double standard is wack Prince has did it for so long and everyone laps it up like cream.

Excellent! Excellent point! Just goes to show you that some things other artist can do and get away with, others cannot. It is what it is. Looking forward to her DISCIPLINE, though. wink
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Reply #38 posted 01/10/08 3:21pm

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TotalAlisa said:

VoicesCarry said:

This is part of Janet's biography on the IDJ website.

Sitting across from a roaring fireplace on winter afternoon in Vail, Janet is curled up on a dark leather couch as she discusses the unlikely topic of Discipline, the title of her new album. Beyond the floor-to-ceiling window, long graceful branches of towering trees are heavy with snow. In the distance, a lift carries skiers up an imposing mountain awash in white. Janet's wearing a midnight-black sweat suit, her hair pulled back to the nape of her deck. Her body language is relaxed and her eyes are smiling. She's trim, and also a little hoarse, having just fought off a cold. The whisper-quiet texture of her voice adds to the intimacy of the conversation.

"Discipline has been much on my mind," she says. "It's the idea that unifies the songs on this record. As a concept, and even a lifestyle, discipline goes extremely deep. It can be applied to so much about ourselves. In my case, I see it as one of defining aspects of my character. Discipline was there for me from the start. But it was not until this record that I began to understand its full meaning. "In putting Discipline out front-- as both the title of the album and title of a song about sexual surrender--I wanted to announce that I was venturing into new creative waters. That meant working with producers like Jermaine Dupri, Rodney Jerkins, and Ne-Yo, whose songs spoke to the immediacy of my emotions. Like all my records, this one, whether intentional or not, has autobiographical roots. It's difficult for me to work any other way. I don't feel it, if I don't believe it, I can't sing it.

"So Discipline, as a storyline, begins in my childhood which someone could see as a classic study in discipline. Discipline was part of a family culture that I absorbed. I was born with it. "I also believe that discipline has given me the confidence to jump out of the nest. When L.A. Reid, Chairman of Island Def Jam, and I discussed co-executive producing this record, we both agreed that the feeling had to adventuresome and fresh. I was interested in exploring musical scenarios-some exotic, many erotic, but all deeply emotional. I wanted to push the envelope. And I'm glad that `Discipline,' both as a song and an album, does just that."




OH GOD.... always about sex.... my goosh can she just leave that alone for a minute..... its annoying... cause there is more important things to life then that.... what about the world comming to an end...

this has put out some of the sparks i had for JJ... cause i don't want to hear another album about her having sex with JD>... NO one wants to think about that...

What exactly did you think about MJ's BREAK OF DAWN? lol I was diggin' him talking about making love. It was such a shock and exciting to me all at the same time!
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Reply #39 posted 01/10/08 3:23pm

DawnD

lowkey said:

TotalAlisa said:




OH GOD.... always about sex.... my goosh can she just leave that alone for a minute..... its annoying... cause there is more important things to life then that.... what about the world comming to an end...

this has put out some of the sparks i had for JJ... cause i don't want to hear another album about her having sex with JD>... NO one wants to think about that...


if you have a problem with janet talking about sex then how did you even become a fan? sex has been her theme since the janet. album, it didnt seem to become a problem until she became a problem after nipplegate.i still dont see the big difference in her lyrics from janet. to damito jo, i mean 'your smooth and shiney feels so good against my lips' is just as blatant as anything from 'all for you' or 'damita jo'.

Actually, she started it with CONTROL. The moaning in FUNNY HOW TIME FLIES wasn't because she had a tummy ache! lol
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