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Thread started 01/09/08 3:11pm

Lammastide

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Jazz heads, I need your insights on Weather Report

OK, I'm trying to explore Weather Report's work. I've got Heavy Weather, but where should I go from here?
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #1 posted 01/09/08 3:18pm

2freaky4church
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Stick with the early records, when they were young, vibrant.

Don't forget to start with older Jazz, Miles, Coltrane, etc...
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #2 posted 01/09/08 3:26pm

jojofran

Hey Lammastide. Haven't been around for a minute.. But if u trying to really get into Weather Report you've started at one of their hottest albums "Heavy Weather". They have a live album called "8:30" which is hot. "Night Passage" is another good album. I would tell you that their albums all have different nuances. The post "Jaco Pastorius" albums are hot as well. I always liked "Procession". Nice to see someone delving into real musicians! Unfortunately we lost Joe Zawinul last year. sad What a great keyboard/synth player he was. What a choice of notes and harmony he possessed!
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Reply #3 posted 01/09/08 3:27pm

Lammastide

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Hey, jojo wave Thanks!
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Reply #4 posted 01/09/08 3:29pm

PFunkjazz

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Lammastide said:

OK, I'm trying to explore Weather Report's work. I've got Heavy Weather, but where should I go from here?


Either go pre-Jaco with


or more with Jaco
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Reply #5 posted 01/09/08 3:37pm

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PFunkjazz said:

Lammastide said:

OK, I'm trying to explore Weather Report's work. I've got Heavy Weather, but where should I go from here?


Either go pre-Jaco with


or more with Jaco



Hey u know Jaco "did" actually play on the Black Market album. Listen to the tune "Barbary Coast".
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Reply #6 posted 01/09/08 3:42pm

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Lammastide said:

Hey, jojo wave Thanks!



Long time no hear from! Nice to C U still around my friend. B good and stay blessed!
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Reply #7 posted 01/09/08 3:44pm

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They good live as well. wink.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #8 posted 01/10/08 6:04am

SoulAlive

get their 1976 album 'Black Market' music
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Reply #9 posted 01/10/08 8:07am

novabrkr

The first two albums are as good as music is going to get.

The rest, sans for a few later tolerable works like "Black Market" and "Heavy Weather" is just commercial instrumental music. I love Joe's and Wayne's best work, and they are both geniuses on their own right, but Weather Report did also some really bad music during the later years. But then again, they were making money and if you gotta sustain a lifestyle I guess you'll eventually have to go down that route. An ARP modular doesn't come cheap, nevermind two.
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Reply #10 posted 01/10/08 10:52am

PFunkjazz

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jojofran said:

PFunkjazz said:



Either go pre-Jaco with


or more with Jaco



Hey u know Jaco "did" actually play on the Black Market album. Listen to the tune "Barbary Coast".


Yeah, I'm fully aware. eek
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Reply #11 posted 01/10/08 11:13am

PFunkjazz

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novabrkr said:

The first two albums are as good as music is going to get.

The rest, sans for a few later tolerable works like "Black Market" and "Heavy Weather" is just commercial instrumental music. I love Joe's and Wayne's best work, and they are both geniuses on their own right, but Weather Report did also some really bad music during the later years. But then again, they were making money and if you gotta sustain a lifestyle I guess you'll eventually have to go down that route. An ARP modular doesn't come cheap, nevermind two.


I wasn't comfortable recommending those albums to someone who was starting with HW. The eponymous debut, LIVE IN TOKYO and Body Electric are all superb, but more in a experimental vein.

As per your "bad music during the later years" comment, the proceedings became dominated more and more by Zawinul's synths, Jaco's histrionics and Shorter's composed and played in a rapidly diminishing capacity. Things blossomed a bit with a new rhythm sectioin: Omar Hakim and Victor Bailey

, but Shorter's interest could not be sustained. sad
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Reply #12 posted 01/10/08 11:28am

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PFunkjazz said:

I wasn't comfortable recommending those albums to someone who was starting with HW.


Okay. Point taken!
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Reply #13 posted 01/10/08 11:32am

novabrkr

Odd. I just noticed I used an expression up there that would indicate Joe would be still alive. Guess I'm not myself used either to seeing the last greats go. sad
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Reply #14 posted 01/10/08 11:38am

PFunkjazz

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novabrkr said:

Odd. I just noticed I used an expression up there that would indicate Joe would be still alive. Guess I'm not myself used either to seeing the last greats go. sad


Happily I saw Joe's band on their last run thru LA; being a few months before he passed. His big band treatment of WR themes is superb!

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Reply #15 posted 01/10/08 4:11pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Stick with the early records, when they were young, vibrant.

Don't forget to start with older Jazz, Miles, Coltrane, etc...


Agree on both counts....

And adding Thelonius Monk to the list.

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