pennylover said:

Snoop is one of those cats who will be cool when he's 72.

SirPsycho said:

I feel you but music has always seem to put an age limit on its art. That's why Janet is getting stuff like "she STILL looks good" or "she STILL has it" and she's what.....41 or something.

I know my friend who spins and is a visual artist said that now that he's 40, he needs to focus on the visual art because "you can't be 60 spinnin' music".

DawnD said:

U mean Rakim vs. Jay-Z cuz Eric B. was Hip-Hop's first & only "Ghost DJ". U have all these ghostwriters & ghost producers.....Eric B was basically the muscle behind the machine. Any & all beats & scratches were done by Marley Marl, Large Professor and the late Paul C. Oh yeah, and rakim & his brother Stevie Blass. Eric B. didn't do SH*T!!!!!

I'd rather go see a "classic" than 90% of this bullsh*t that's out now!!!!!
And think about this: DOLEMITE just turned 80 and BLOWFLY is in his mid to late 60's. And they STILL turn out a better show than a lot of these "so called rappers"!!!!!

Young or old.....if u got it you got it. If you don't get tha fu*k outta the game!!!!!

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woogiebear said:

Ruday ray just turned 80?... daaaaayum... you remember "Wildman Steve?"

Rakim
Krs
Kool G rap
Kane
Stetsasonic
Ultramagnetic MC's
Gang Starr
Main Source


All true classic hip hop right here, and no matter how they old they are they are still the baddest lyricists in the game period.
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IAintTheOne said:

YUP!!!!! GOT A WILDMAN STEVE ALBUM IN THE CRATES AS WELL AS A COUPLE JIMMY LYNCH LP'S!!!!!

I personally do not feel that there is an age limit because a lot of the older cats are still doing it way better than the younger ones, ie. De La Soul - I still want new albums from them!

I think as long as you still have that essence of hip hop, you're not too old. There are a lot of my favorite dudes who are approaching 40 or already past 40 and I want new material for them. It is grown man rap!

Jay-Z is getting a little played out to me but that's not because of his age (although it doesn't help when he has lines comparing himself to a young, Off The Wall Michael Jackson when he's closer to having just relased HIStory).

How old is Kanye West?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

you're on crack snoop hasnt been relative in yrs he's just a caricature now. even though the sexaul eruption song is getting a lot of play but hes hardly on it.

kdj997 said:

exactly. snoop's character is keeping him going, not his rapping. he puts out a cd and maybe one song gets a rotation off of it. His style has changed and it is cool, but he isn't releasing that snoop stuff from back in the days that was his "doggystyle." he is just pretty fun to check out nowadays even doing his gangasta stuff but he isn't really doing anything musically. look at dj quick. he is still trying to put out cd's but geesh who is listening to him?

I like seeing the vets do their thing. it is our generation who can relate to them. However, some of them had an era that was just that--an era. Big daddy couldn't come out now with a song like I get the job done and it would work. nor would anyone believe him or even gang star or some of the others if they were to update their signature rap style because it is not them. Even we would be quick to believe that they had a ghost writer. If they had a style that can't be updated then they should just do shows of their old material. Eric B has a style that can still hold it down. KRS1 also. he puts out great stuff but no market for these guys for some reason because the young generation took over the look and style of good rap music. But ERIC B-- nas, kanye, talib, etc. need to give props to eric. even wu and tribe.

chewwsey said:

Eric B? You mean Rakim.

kdj997 said:

You're telling Snoop isn't cool anymore? I never said he was one of the top rappers in the game I said dude is still cool and popular. You can't say the same about guys like Master P and Nelly.

jbchavez said:

yes I meant Rakim. thanks.

this why hip hop is a dead art form now, you are not allowed to grow up and mature

Cinnie said:

I'm witcha cinnie. I love de la soul too and want more music from them.
They just came to charlotte in november. I love the grind date and AOI:Bionix
cd. To me it's not how old you are, but whether you can still bring it. De La is still bringing it. I can't say the same about LL cool J. His last couple of efforts have been mediocre.
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I'm reading this thread and am beginning to believe more and more that 2008 will be the year for veteran artists in r&b, hip hop and pop to shine with their comeback albums

depends on what they're rapping about and they're presentation.

I caught Common & Q-Tip together live a couple months ago and they were far from being played out.

Common is the oldest rapper that I listen to, who seems to be still doing it well and stretching out with every album.

as for Method-Man, i listen to 421 & was like and wonderin' when this cat was going to grow up? Hip-hop is always portrayed as a young man's game, but that's because no rapper has either had the skill or the support to take it further. if what the artist is rapping truly is poetry then it should be timeless, they should be able to continue their art as long as they're breathing. if it's about bling, smoking blunts and gats and poppin' caps, well yeah, teenagers should remain that rappers demographic.

woogiebear said:

I was about 2 bring that up. Completely true. Eric B was essentially a promoter... that's it. Rakim did a lot of the shit himself.

Except that would actually make Rakim, Marley Marl, etc, the "ghost producers", because that term is used 4 one who does the work, and isn't credited.

Im-a-say... PEACE!