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Harlepolis said: whatsgoingon said:
Ok, which artist or group do you think dominated the 90s and what group or artist has dominated the new century so far? I personally think there has been no dominance that has actually stood out, which would test the tide of time. Certain artists have been more prominent than others, mainly due to their privat lives, but very little to do with their art. Nobody I'm not unrealistic, hence: "I pretty much like to believe " quote 
I'm just saying there is hope. With the recent radical decline of sales,,,,I'm just hoping the dirt will be ditched. Well, if you are talking about who dominated the 1990's commercially, then the obvious answer is Mariah Carey. If you are talking about who dominated the 1990's artistically and was groundbreaking, then you can't really say that any one act did so. Nirvana was a phenom and brought in the whole grunge and alternative music scene, but they were the Jimi Hendrix of the decade; a group which blew up on the music scene, made a huge impact and disappeared/self-destructed as quickly as they came but left a huge legacy. Same with 2Pac and Biggie Smalls; they were huge but were gone too soon. U2, Eric Clapton and Madonna reinvented themselves but I wouldn't say that they dominated the music scene in the decade. And as far as the boy band/teen pop phenomenon, that was purely a late 1990's creation. Justin Timberlake and Beyonce may have come out of that scene as huge stars, but they were merely small parts of that scene during that time.  | |
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 yup .. musicians and real singers are becoming an endangered species .. i cant think of anybody young who's in the Patti, Chaka, boat right now.. who is in mainstream .. Mariah maybe... | |
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R&B music is in the worst shape,imo.I can't believe the crap these "artists" people put out  The other day,I was listening to "You Are Everything" by the Stylistics and I started to wonder...."why can't people write songs like this anymore??".
Yeah,I know I sound like the angry old grandfather,lol,but it's true! There is a lack of REAL SONGS in today's music scene. | |
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purplesweat said: I think if you like music from the past - great.
But why shit on today's music? It is what it is and if you don't like it, no one's forcing it on you. Some people do like it and don't enjoy having to hide their true interests and likes for fear of being blasted by people who can't accept that thing called a generation gap. I think if young people are open minded enough to join a prince forum in the first place, then we should get that respect back that we are showing towards music of the past. Fairs fair right? Sho, that's why I don't listen to the radio anymore | |
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My answer is also yes.
I´ve managed to read only the first few posts of the thread, but they were great. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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novabrkr said: I have some old VHS tapes where I've taped like 3-4 hours of typical MTV footage from the early 90s (we didn't have cable, so I just typed for myself a few hours worth of music videos as a kid). Sure you had a Prince and a Michael song there, but I couldn't imagine really listening to ANYTHING that was ACTUALLY there on the regular programming on a daily basis.
Plus in the early part of the 90s, we had something called Euro Techno that dominated the charts for over five years. Every third song / album on the charts was of that "genre". It was an absolute nightmare here and you couldn't escape that music at any public situation. People seem to have effectively forgotten that phase in history. Oh, I remember the Euro Dance days VERY well! Yes, it was cheap crap music, and it was getting on my nerves when it was hot. But, guess what... we had a party earlier last year, had lots of good drinks and played Youtube clips of - yes - Euro dance music! It was trash, but it still had melodies and you could dance to that shit! (I know that I sound like vainandy now...) Yes, you can have a party with that stuff and quite some vodka. However, to have a party with today's chart pop music, I need twelve livers to cope with the alcohol level I need to dance to that bs...  | |
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How to write a hit:
LYRICS - must include the words: ass, hood, baby, I'm so, girl, soldier, boss, ho, yeah nigga, and a discussion of foreign policy and the state of American families as well as comments on the future of genetic studies VOCALS - computer manipulated bent up screwed stretched for no reason, no actual singing allowed(that would distract people from the shitty production), yodeling, moaning, throat clearing, hacking "BEAT" - must include the sounds(notes are for punks and samples while incredibly GENIUS are too expensive): handclap, symphony hit, whistle, trashcan bang, door knock, fart If you follow these safe and easy tips you too can be Turd-pain.  [Edited 1/8/08 9:28am] | |
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Okay, then, do you remember some of the horrible music that came out in the 70s and 80s? Rick Astley? Michael Bolton? Rick Dees? Most disco? Most hair metal? Need I go on?
SoulAlive said: TANKAEFC said: You realize that you sound like an old fuddy duddy writing this, don't you? you are just the arrogant sort I was talking about, and you need to remember that your viewpoint is biased.
 well,I guess I'm an old fuddy duddy too,because I agree with everything that whatsgoingon said  | |
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TANKAEFC said: Okay, then, do you remember some of the horrible music that came out in the 70s and 80s? Rick Astley? Michael Bolton? Rick Dees? Most disco? Most hair metal? Need I go on?
No one denies that there was bull in the 70s and 80s. The difference is that MSM wasn't SOAKED in bull. Everywhere that you could possibly enjoy and discover great music had a mix, with the bulk of material getting shine being genius or DAMN good. You didn't have to search every nook of the world for a golden amulet and decode a message and then fight dragons, trolls, and chupacabras , and then walk 100 miles in the snow to have the opportunity to possibly hear good shit. | |
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LoveAlive said: Is today's music REALLY that bad or is it just a generational disconnect? I was talking to one of my co workers who is in his mid 50's and he said that in the 70's, people railed against Led Zepplin and the rock movement of that time and said that it was "noise." I'm wondering if the same thing is occurring or is today's music really "noise?"
Comments plz.. YES IT IS | |
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TANKAEFC said: Okay, then, do you remember some of the horrible music that came out in the 70s and 80s? Rick Astley? Michael Bolton? Rick Dees? Most disco? Most hair metal? Need I go on?
There has always been bad music in every period.I'm not suggesting otherwise.What I'm saying is.....the bad stuff from the 70s and 80s wasn't nearly as bad as the crap that we hear nowadays.Furthermore,as I pointed out in a previous post,back then,the good music was mainstream.You didn't have to "go underground" to find it.All you had to do was turn on your radio.You mentioned that "most disco" was horrible.But in the same period,you had talented,credible artists like Stevie Wonder,Elton John,Earth Wind and Fire,Roberta Flack,P-Funk,The Commodores,Rick James,Linda Ronstadt,Donna Summer,etc,all topping the charts and dominating the airwaves.With all that great music to enjoy,who cares about a crappy novelty song by Rick Dees? Do this: google a list of the top 100 songs from 1983.Then find a list of the top 100 songs from 2007 and compare both lists.I rest my case. | |
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Dance said: How to write a hit:
LYRICS - must include the words: ass, hood, baby, I'm so, girl, soldier, boss, ho, yeah nigga, and a discussion of foreign policy and the state of American families as well as comments on the future of genetic studies VOCALS - computer manipulated bent up screwed stretched for no reason, no actual singing allowed(that would distract people from the shitty production), yodeling, moaning, throat clearing, hacking "BEAT" - must include the sounds(notes are for punks and samples while incredibly GENIUS are too expensive): handclap, symphony hit, whistle, trashcan bang, door knock, fart If you follow these safe and easy tips you too can be Turd-pain.
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"ASS ON MA HOOD BAIBIII!!!! HACKHACKHACK!! PFFFT!" [Edited 1/9/08 1:01am] | |
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purplesweat said: Dance said: How to write a hit:
LYRICS - must include the words: ass, hood, baby, I'm so, girl, soldier, boss, ho, yeah nigga, and a discussion of foreign policy and the state of American families as well as comments on the future of genetic studies VOCALS - computer manipulated bent up screwed stretched for no reason, no actual singing allowed(that would distract people from the shitty production), yodeling, moaning, throat clearing, hacking "BEAT" - must include the sounds(notes are for punks and samples while incredibly GENIUS are too expensive): handclap, symphony hit, whistle, trashcan bang, door knock, fart If you follow these safe and easy tips you too can be Turd-pain.
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"ASS ON MA HOOD BAIBIII!!!! HACKHACKHACK!! PFFFT!" [Edited 1/9/08 1:01am] a number one hit, just like that. For all time I am with you, you are with me. | |
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purplesweat said: Dance said: How to write a hit:
LYRICS - must include the words: ass, hood, baby, I'm so, girl, soldier, boss, ho, yeah nigga, and a discussion of foreign policy and the state of American families as well as comments on the future of genetic studies VOCALS - computer manipulated bent up screwed stretched for no reason, no actual singing allowed(that would distract people from the shitty production), yodeling, moaning, throat clearing, hacking "BEAT" - must include the sounds(notes are for punks and samples while incredibly GENIUS are too expensive): handclap, symphony hit, whistle, trashcan bang, door knock, fart If you follow these safe and easy tips you too can be Turd-pain.
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"ASS ON MA HOOD BAIBIII!!!! HACKHACKHACK!! PFFFT!" [Edited 1/9/08 1:01am] NIIICE, but it needs a touch of "yeah nigga" and a sprinkle of "HO" Keep writing gems like that and you'll be the number 1 ringtone in no time son! | |
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LoveAlive said: This is how I feel about today's mainstream music. I think most of it is crap but one thing that Im glad of and that is the independant music movement. There's so much interesting music out there. Im talking about the Bettye Lavettes, the Raul Midon's, the Van Hunt's, the Alice Smith's, etc. Also, I think the jazz scene is SO interesting at the moment. I think there are still good albums being made, you just have to look for them
Who are today's Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, John Coltrane, or even Grover Washington? etc etc? LOL there aren't any! Jazz is deader than dead - beyond dead. R&B, hip-hop, rock and roll, etc etc have NOW become what Jazz has been arguably for the last 35 years. DEAD. The problem is NOT that we aren't looking for the good music - jazz or otherwise. Yeah, granted, Marcus Miller or Poogie Bell nowadays drop very good "modern" jazz LPs - but at the end of the day no disrespect intended at all they are sidemen whose best work was probably with others. They are not visionary geniuses pushing culture and humanity and most important OTHER MUSICIANS higher. And, whether you like them or not, neither are (or ever were) the likes of the Marsalis Brothers. As an American born in 1972 I take it as my birthright to having several ENTIRE GENRES of music avilable to MY ENTIRE PEER GROUP that are filled with visionary geniuses pushing culture and humanity higher. From 1972 until the early to mid 90s this was more or less true. It is no longer true. Not for jazz. Not for any style of music. Is there some music being released today that is listenable and enjoyable? Yes! But for America the standard for music is GENIUS. People of my generation will NEVER settle for anything less. We were born into the light of music during the most fertile cultural period of our nation's history - the 1970s. | |
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TonyVanDam said: The first 4 years of the 1990's (90-93) were good for the well balance of genres at the time (all different types of rap, hip-house, miami bass, heavy metal's final years, funk-metal, latin freestyle's later years, etc.). But the rest of that decade (mostly 94-99) was a letdown for me. Exactly, after 1995 or so it started going downhill and hasn´t changed the direction yet. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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TODAY'S MUSIC IS LIKE MAKING KOOL-AID
JUST ADD WATER, SUGAR & STIR..... WHETHER IT'S R&B, ROCK OR JAZZ DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON HIP-HOP/RAP!!!! 
AND I WISH THAT JUST ONCE ROGER TROUTMAN WOULD RISE FROM HIS GRAVE, SLAP THE DOGSH*T OUTTA T-PAIN (CUZ IT'S A PAIN TO HEAR THIS F**K), AND CUSS OUT CHER!!! | |
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I don't think today's music is bad. I am sure that 20 years ago folks thought the same thing. Nowadays, you have to search deeper than the radio for good music. There are so many great artists if you go looking for some sounds, especially on the soul scene. You have Frank McComb, Eric Roberson, Tim Dillinger, Kelli Sae, Conya Doss, Amanda Diva, Incognito, and Adriana Evans.
Seek and ya shall find. | |
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