***Having the most hits from a single album ('Thriller' had a total of SEVEN singles,each of which went Top 10.)

Moonbeam said:

LOL!

And another thing, Janet has SO gone down in my estimation since she worked with Beenie Man. How can someone so supportive of gays work with someone who advocates killing them. Two-faced bitch!

Cloudbuster said:

I'm still trying to figure out Elton John and Eminem. Maybe the old guy wants to joust the boy.

Wolf said:

Eminem is an act. Beenie Man isn't.

Janet is leagues ahead of Michael.

Moonbeam said:

sigh..

Excuse me but Beenie Man is homophobic off record as well as on. THAT, my friend, is not an act. I don't want to start a fight, all i'm saying is that he is against homosexuality within his work and outside of it.

the Only Reason why anybody would Pick Janet is Because of the MEdia Manipulation Period.Michael Jackson is One of those Artists that He Can Sing any Damn thing Period.Mike as a Kid alone hasn't Been Touched&IMHO overall not Even the Adult MJ can quite touch that Kid.that Kid was Scary&SoulFul.Smokey Robinson said It Best MJ as a Kid was like a Old Soul.like 40 Years Down the Line.

Moonbeam said:

LOL!

And another thing, Janet has SO gone down in my estimation since she worked with Beenie Man. How can someone so supportive of gays work with someone who advocates killing them. Two-faced bitch!

Anything apart from the incessant moaning and groaning over a dull R&B groove while she fingers herself in the studio.

Ellie said:

Congratulations, after 20 minutes, I am STILL laughing at this!!!Thats THE funniest thing I have read on here!!!

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DavidEye said:

No, "Rhythm Nation" beats anything Michael has done ten-fold.

Moonbeam said:

you fucken idiot...

Cloudbuster said:

I dont give a donkeys ass about Beanie. Eminem's hatred is evident, call it an act, call it WHATEVER you want, it's evident and can NOT be excused by calling it an 'act' he's a disgrace in many ways.

mistermaxxx said:

So true. Ever listened the the 1971 Goin Back To Indiana live album? Who's Loving You is STUNNING! Brings shivers down my spine every time.

Vocally MJ is amazing. Keep The Faith, Who Is It, Dirty Diana, Earth Song etc. He sometimes literally leaves me speechless. It's amazing that Michael is related to his siblings. Only Jermaine has a passable singing voice out of the rest of them, and that's not particularly "strong". I hate to say it, but I heard Latoya sing a few times and thoyght it was Janet. They're that similar. Rebbie is the best vocalist of the Jackson sisters.

As for Janet's albums. Control is the only tight album she's ever done. Rhythm Nation is my overall favourite, but it sort of drifts off into nothing like all the rest - and All For You starts out as shit and ends as shit. All those damn interludes. They're thoughtful on Rhythm Nation, but now what's the point? I wish the woman would stop grabbing those plastic tits at every chance too. It's worse than seeing Michael naked in the manky You Are Not Alone video (crap song too).

Also, RN1814 and The Velvet Rope may have been part concept albums, but ALL the singles were the tacky commercial dancey ones. At least Michael had the balls to release They Don't Care About Us & Stranger In Moscow as singles (and I believe Money was cancelled but promos were pressed).

I hate it when people start criticsing Michael for his dancing. He practically invented the "group choreography" routines in music videos. In fact, he hasn't even done it in a music video since Remember The Time. Unless you count Ghosts, which never got a release in the US, and seeing as the particular choreography in that was so mindblowing (WHAT is that thing he does with his ankles?), I'll let it go Better than his sister jumping about waving her arms in different sequences rather slowly (a la All For You, Together Again). It's like Steps on speed. Janet, you're 36, leave that stuff to Christina Aguilera. Oh, but you haven't got much of a voice so I guess shoving your fake tits in the camera is the best way to sell records? OK then, just don't expect me to take you seriously as an artist anymore.

I might change my mind about Janet one day if she showed she could write a thoughtful song and sing it with a bit of feeling. Anything apart from the incessant moaning and groaning over a dull R&B groove while she fingers herself in the studio. Also, about Beenie Man - hates gays or note, 'Feel It Boy' is one of the worst songs of the year.
[This message was edited Tue Oct 22 0:24:40 PDT 2002 by Ellie]

fairmoan said:

No,Moonbeam is not an idiot.It's just that,he's too young to fully remember the impact that Michael had on the world.He was only TWO YEARS OLD when 'Thriller' came out,and he wasn't even alive when 'Off The Wall' was released.I was around during the "Michaelmania" of 1983-84 and I can tell you,it was unlike anything I had ever seen.

DavidEye said:

so true DavidEye.MoonBean is a Very Bright Cat,but unless you saw "MichaelMania" first Hand you will never know.Mike was out of this World.but it like this:you can take all the Big Selling Acts like Garth,Mariah,all the Boy&Girl Acts over the past 5 Years,"Titanic" the Movie,Tiger Woods,Michael Jordan,etc..&You still don't measure up too Half the Vibe that was MichaelMania back in the day.

thebumpsquad said:

ROTFLMAO


That's exactly what Janet's music has evolved into,just her moaning and groaning over a bass-heavy R&B groove,talking about some guy's huge "package".

fairmoan said:

No,Moonbeam is not an idiot.It's just that,he's too young to fully remember the impact that Michael had on the world.He was only TWO YEARS OLD when 'Thriller' came out,and he wasn't even alive when 'Off The Wall' was released.I was around during the "Michaelmania" of 1983-84 and I can tell you,it was unlike anything I had ever seen.

mistermaxxx said:

True Dat! he reached all corners of this planet.It was amazing to be 13-14 then.In school, you either liked Mike or you didn't.Point is half of any classroom loved the guy, you could tell who was a fan cause of the half-mast trousers and white socks!.we even had a lesson off so we could watch 'The making of Thriller' in the lecture theatre.

Nobody will EVER be as big as Michael was in those two years,NEVER.

DavidEye said:

Thanks, buddy. Some people are so defensive of their opinions! I do remember a little bit of the Michael mania. When I was about 5, my bro, friends and I used to go around the neighborhood blaring "Beat It" through our ghettoblaster. It was great! I remember watching the "Black or White" video for the first time- what an event that was!

Don't get me wrong- I do love Michael's music, but it hasn't stood the test of time for me like Janet's has. I'll still throw on a Michael Jackson album now and then, but it is more of a nostalgic ride than it is a current interest. That is as much of a reflection of the music itself as it is a reflection of my own taste.

"Off the Wall," "Thriller," "Bad" and "Dangerous" are all great albums. However, each one of them contains some weak tracks in my opinion. "The Lady in My Life," "The Girl Is Mine," "Just Good Friends," "Just Can't Stop Loving You," "Will You Be There?" and "Heal the World" are all pretty sappy. The most consistent is probably "Off the Wall."

On the other hand, "Rhythm Nation" and "All for You" are both composed of songs that still hold my interest and I still believe are top-notch. "The Velvet Rope" and "janet." are nearly flawless in my opinion, too. It just boils down to a matter of taste.

Who will be remembered as the bigger star? Michael, clearly. He has earned his legendary status. However, I get the feeling that his influence is over. I doubt the youth of today much care about Michael Jackson, let alone remember him before it was uncool to like him. However, Janet is still releasing singles that blaze up the charts. Her influence is just beginning to manifest itself in a lot of different acts. Her "ICON" performance is indicative of this.

Both have EARNED a lot of respect from me and a great number of people. Who's bigger? Michael Jackson is bigger than everyone. Who's better? That's a matter of opinion.