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missfee said: bboy87 said: That would either be Who Is It or Billie Jean Shhhiiiittttt, MJ's best song is "Smooth Criminal" hands down....  I wonder how the demo Chicago 1945 sounds "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: missfee said: Shhhiiiittttt, MJ's best song is "Smooth Criminal" hands down.... I wonder how the demo Chicago 1945 sounds Is that the demo for SC? | |
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That's the beauty of Michael (musically), you can choose any song from any era and people can have a strong opinion on why such and such song was the best one he did. | |
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DANGEROUSx said: bboy87 said: I wonder how the demo Chicago 1945 sounds Is that the demo for SC? Well sensing how the video went back in time and the lyrics mirrored that of something that probably happened in that time frame, it might as well could've been. | |
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Timmy84 said: DANGEROUSx said: Is that the demo for SC? Well sensing how the video went back in time and the lyrics mirrored that of something that probably happened in that time frame, it might as well could've been. Interesting.  I wanna hear it. | |
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DANGEROUSx said: bboy87 said: I wonder how the demo Chicago 1945 sounds Is that the demo for SC? yep. The video was originally titled Chicago Nights too He filmed the videos for Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, and Smooth Criminal before the album was released. Michael went overdrive from December 1986 to February 1989 Filming videos for Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, Speed Demon, Liberian Girl, Just Good Friends(never released), Dirty Diana, Smooth Criminal, Come Together, and Leave Me Alone, the Pepsi commercials, the tour, the album. No wonder he had those heart problems "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: DANGEROUSx said: Is that the demo for SC? yep. The video was originally titled Chicago Nights too He filmed the videos for Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, and Smooth Criminal before the album was released. Michael went overdrive from December 1986 to February 1989 Filming videos for Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, Speed Demon, Liberian Girl, Just Good Friends(never released), Dirty Diana, Smooth Criminal, Come Together, and Leave Me Alone, the Pepsi commercials, the tour, the album. No wonder he had those heart problems !
Hold up.. he had a video for Just Good Friends? Thats new to me.. and yeah he worked way to haarddd. | |
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bboy87 said: DANGEROUSx said: Is that the demo for SC? yep. The video was originally titled Chicago Nights too He filmed the videos for Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, and Smooth Criminal before the album was released. Michael went overdrive from December 1986 to February 1989 Filming videos for Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, Speed Demon, Liberian Girl, Just Good Friends(never released), Dirty Diana, Smooth Criminal, Come Together, and Leave Me Alone, the Pepsi commercials, the tour, the album. No wonder he had those heart problems  He was like what Beyonce is now: a workaholic. | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: yep. The video was originally titled Chicago Nights too He filmed the videos for Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, and Smooth Criminal before the album was released. Michael went overdrive from December 1986 to February 1989 Filming videos for Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, Speed Demon, Liberian Girl, Just Good Friends(never released), Dirty Diana, Smooth Criminal, Come Together, and Leave Me Alone, the Pepsi commercials, the tour, the album. No wonder he had those heart problems He was like what Beyonce is now: a workaholic.Except Beyonce makes shit.  | |
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Rodya24 said: Timmy84 said: He was like what Beyonce is now: a workaholic.Except Beyonce makes shit. Well MJ is Beyonces inspiration.  | |
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DANGEROUSx said: Rodya24 said: Except Beyonce makes shit. Well MJ is Beyonces inspiration. MJ is Justin Timberlake's inspiration as well. | |
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Beautiful song.I really like it. | |
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Rodya24 said: DANGEROUSx said: Well MJ is Beyonces inspiration. MJ is Justin Timberlake's inspiration as well. Forgot about that one. Hahahaahaah poor MJ  | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: yep. The video was originally titled Chicago Nights too He filmed the videos for Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, and Smooth Criminal before the album was released. Michael went overdrive from December 1986 to February 1989 Filming videos for Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, Speed Demon, Liberian Girl, Just Good Friends(never released), Dirty Diana, Smooth Criminal, Come Together, and Leave Me Alone, the Pepsi commercials, the tour, the album. No wonder he had those heart problems He was like what Beyonce is now: a workaholic.He went in overdrive. You hear about him going through the last half of one of the Japanese concerts with a nail through his toe? Not to mention 1988 was the year he stopped being a strict vegetarian "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: He was like what Beyonce is now: a workaholic.He went in overdrive. You hear about him going through the last half of one of the Japanese concerts with a nail through his toe? Not to mention 1988 was the year he stopped being a strict vegetarian WHAT THE HELL? I've never heard of that one! Dayum MJ! ! | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: He was like what Beyonce is now: a workaholic.He went in overdrive. You hear about him going through the last half of one of the Japanese concerts with a nail through his toe? Not to mention 1988 was the year he stopped being a strict vegetarian It seems like Michael (and Janet just two years later) were working themselves to death. So he started to eat meat in 1988. Didn't he leave the Jehovah's Witnesses around that same time too? [Edited 1/4/08 20:27pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: He went in overdrive. You hear about him going through the last half of one of the Japanese concerts with a nail through his toe? Not to mention 1988 was the year he stopped being a strict vegetarian It seems like Michael (and Janet just two years later) were working themselves to death. So he started to eat meat in 1988. Didn't he leave the Jehovah's Witnesses around that same time too? [Edited 1/4/08 20:27pm] That was also the year the "sleepovers" began. Technically, they started in Japanese hotel rooms in 1987, but still, Neverland was put to good use as soon as Mike got it in 88.  “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Hate the video, but love the song! "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
"Baby, that was much too fast"...Goodnight dear sweet Prince. I'll love you always | |
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midnightmover said: Timmy84 said: It seems like Michael (and Janet just two years later) were working themselves to death. So he started to eat meat in 1988. Didn't he leave the Jehovah's Witnesses around that same time too? [Edited 1/4/08 20:27pm] That was also the year the "sleepovers" began. Technically, they started in Japanese hotel rooms in 1987, but still, Neverland was put to good use as soon as Mike got it in 88. Damn, lol. Everything that was considered "very weird" all happened around 1987-88, huh? | |
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Cinnamon234 said: Hate the video, but love the song!
I NEVER dig the video at all. The video could've actually had more to it than stars being on the video. I guess Michael was running out of ideas with the project. | |
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Timmy84 said: midnightmover said: That was also the year the "sleepovers" began. Technically, they started in Japanese hotel rooms in 1987, but still, Neverland was put to good use as soon as Mike got it in 88. Damn, lol. Everything that was considered "very weird" all happened around 1987-88, huh? Well, living with the family and being a JW had cramped his style for too long. His first solo tour was an example of him cutting old ties and going his own way, but taking a boy with him for one-on-one time in hotel rooms was also part of him saying "Fuck it, from now on I'm just gonna do what I want to do". From that point on it was only a matter of time before the chickens came home to roost. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: Timmy84 said: Damn, lol. Everything that was considered "very weird" all happened around 1987-88, huh? Well, living with the family and being a JW had cramped his style for too long. His first solo tour was an example of him cutting old ties and going his own way, but taking a boy with him for one-on-one time in hotel rooms was also part of him saying "Fuck it, from now on I'm just gonna do what I want to do". From that point on it was only a matter of time before the chickens came home to roost. I guess but even at my young age, I really had no idea what was going to happen to Michael in the coming years. Poor guy. But hopefully he's a changed man. [Edited 1/4/08 20:51pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: Cinnamon234 said: Hate the video, but love the song!
I NEVER dig the video at all. The video could've actually had more to it than stars being on the video. I guess Michael was running out of ideas with the project. I don't think he was running out of ideas to be honest. I just think he wanted to show off to everyone what a big star he was by having all these big names at the time show up in his video. The thing that I really didn't like about the video tho was that it had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the song. "Liberian Girl" is the one MJ video I truly dislike. "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ
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Timmy84 said: midnightmover said: Well, living with the family and being a JW had cramped his style for too long. His first solo tour was an example of him cutting old ties and going his own way, but taking a boy with him for one-on-one time in hotel rooms was also part of him saying "Fuck it, from now on I'm just gonna do what I want to do". From that point on it was only a matter of time before the chickens came home to roost. I guess but even at my young age, I really had no idea what was going to happen to Michael in the coming years. Poor guy. But hopefully he's a changed man.
[Edited 1/4/08 20:51pm] I'm 100% sure his sleepover days are over, after all the shit thats been stirred because of them  | |
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Cinnamon234 said: Timmy84 said: I NEVER dig the video at all. The video could've actually had more to it than stars being on the video. I guess Michael was running out of ideas with the project. I don't think he was running out of ideas to be honest. I just think he wanted to show off to everyone what a big star he was by having all these big names at the time show up in his video. The thing that I really didn't like about the video tho was that it had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the song. "Liberian Girl" is the one MJ video I truly dislike. True. | |
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midnightmover said: Timmy84 said: It seems like Michael (and Janet just two years later) were working themselves to death. So he started to eat meat in 1988. Didn't he leave the Jehovah's Witnesses around that same time too? [Edited 1/4/08 20:27pm] That was also the year the "sleepovers" began. Technically, they started in Japanese hotel rooms in 1987, but still, Neverland was put to good use as soon as Mike got it in 88. Nah, he was having sleepovers with Emmanuel Lewis, Sean Lennon, Nicole Richie, and the Hilton sisters earlier than that, around 84-85 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Timmy84 said: Cinnamon234 said: I don't think he was running out of ideas to be honest. I just think he wanted to show off to everyone what a big star he was by having all these big names at the time show up in his video. The thing that I really didn't like about the video tho was that it had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the song. "Liberian Girl" is the one MJ video I truly dislike. True. The videos I don't like: Heal The World Black Or White Will You Be There You Are Not Alone HIStory You Rock My World Cry "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: midnightmover said: That was also the year the "sleepovers" began. Technically, they started in Japanese hotel rooms in 1987, but still, Neverland was put to good use as soon as Mike got it in 88. Nah, he was having sleepovers with Emmanuel Lewis, Sean Lennon, Nicole Richie, and the Hilton sisters earlier than that, around 84-85 Oh yeah that's right! Why I forget all of that?! | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: True. The videos I don't like: Heal The World Black Or White Will You Be There You Are Not Alone HIStory You Rock My World Cry Completely agree with your list! Just take off Black Or White! The panther dance is ! | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: True. The videos I don't like: Heal The World Black Or White Will You Be There You Are Not Alone HIStory You Rock My World Cry Oh yeah... though I dug "Black or White" during the "ending" scene. Some MJ fans say that was "gay". I remember him touching himself was all the buzz everywhere especially in the black community. Many didn't think it was a big deal at the time, others just thought he was freaky. Remember that one comic that actually defended Michael's sexuality? LOL
"MICHAEL JACKSON IS NOT GAY! He's freaky... he's freaky but he ain't gay" and then he imitated MJ singing "Man in the Mirror" with new words to talk about his lifestyle. I don't know if it's the same comic but there was also one comic imitating Michael singing "Human Nature" but it was about his friend Eddie Murphy sleeping with transvestites, I just about died!  | |
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