Van Hunt
... just another face in the crowd ... [Edited 1/13/08 10:52am] | |
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utopia7 said: well well ! you see this is why Threads like these create problems ,when VAN has been nothing but a supporter of Prince ! last show at BB Kings the music playing prior was all Prince.How cool to be able to bump a fellow artist msuic whom you appreciate and still know you can hold your own. AND HE CAN !
Well if it was attention that this thread was seeking it got back to VAN in a not so good way while he was on the internet with his own child . so this is what VAN has to say. Via his myspace page "What they don't know is that 'their man', while he is an incredible talent and entertainer, he willed his biggest hits into being. Because he HAD to be a star. He no longer writes great songs because being a great songwriter was never his goal. Being relevant was/is." [Edited 1/13/08 10:54am] This statement really stood out to me. I think thats a very bold statement for him to make about a great songwriter such as Prince (who in my opinion is a much better songwriter than Van). How in the hell does he know that it wasn't Prince's goal to be a great songwriter?! He lost me after that statement... [Edited 1/13/08 11:10am] [Edited 1/13/08 11:11am] | |
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Bishop31 said: utopia7 said: well well ! you see this is why Threads like these create problems ,when VAN has been nothing but a supporter of Prince ! last show at BB Kings the music playing prior was all Prince.How cool to be able to bump a fellow artist msuic whom you appreciate and still know you can hold your own. AND HE CAN !
Well if it was attention that this thread was seeking it got back to VAN in a not so good way while he was on the internet with his own child . so this is what VAN has to say. Via his myspace page What they don't know is that 'their man', while he is an incredible talent and entertainer, he willed his biggest hits into being. [color=red]Because he HAD to be a star. He no longer writes great songs because being a great songwriter was never his goal. Being relevant was/is. color] [Edited 1/13/08 10:54am] This statement really stood out to me. I think thats a very bold statement for him to make about a great songwriter such as Prince (who in my opinion is a much better songwriter than Van). How in the hell does he know that it wasn't Prince's goal to be a great songwriter?! He lost me after that statement... and it's fair to ask or question this .When I think of musicians I always think every minute of the day a song or lyric is in ones head .. because music is what they do.As far as PRINCE and i've said before every now and then he'll write something so make ya think however as of late I think what he's writes inspires him Only. The last time Prince lyrics grabbed me was THE WORD. yet I will not speak for everyone hey you can ask VAN himself he does pay close attention to his page [Edited 1/13/08 11:57am] | |
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utopia7 said: well well ! you see this is why Threads like these create problems ,when VAN has been a supporter of Prince ! last show at BB Kings the music playing prior was all Prince.How cool to be able to bump a fellow artist msuic whom you appreciate and still know you can hold your own. AND HE CAN !
I'm sure Prince really cares too. That says a lot about how much you SUCK when you do shit like that. Prince is no fellow artist. He and Van Hunt are not peers and the only people with their panties in a bunch about this thread are Well if it was attention that this thread was seeking it got back to VAN in a not so good way while he was on the internet with his own child .
Yes, he must be a damn good musician if he has time to be surfing looking for positive comments on his music instead of I don't know PERFORMING, RECORDING, JAMMING or actually interacting with his child instead of surfing with them. so this is what VAN has to say. Via his myspace page
If you have a myspace, you're a tool. If you have a myspace and you're over 14, you need therapy. I don't care if it's "only for my music." but, I have read my own press. Not all of it. Just enough to not be able to turn back. it's gone to my head.
I can remember once going on okayplayer-trying for the 15th time to find some new info on D'angelo's still nascent record-and "stumbled" across a thread about the Prince comparisons that have been made about ME... some of the comments on there were downright destructive. I never even imagined that you could mix the words "p**ssy" and "musician" while stating an opinion:) Some were supportive. Even fewer were constructive or managed to put forth what I would deem accurate analysis. It all made me sick. Because I knew that NOBODY really knew what the f*ck they were talking about. I am neither as perfect as the best that has been said about me nor as mediocre as the worst that's been said. Translation: I found out just how much I sucked when I was in search of idiots that think I'm neoPrince or even half as good as DAngelo. Don't even give those fools any energy. That's what they live for...to dismantle people and overcompensate for their personal problems...all from behind a computer screen."
Translation: I cuss people all day online and so far it hasn't worked. Last night I was on the
computer with my son. He likes to look up biographical information on the 43 presidents. (And to think, at 5 years old, all I wanted to do was the 'robot') Translation: I don't know how to use these things and my 5yr old who likes to chill at Disney.com helped me out. After he'd his fill he asked if I would google "Van Hunt's Son." I pondered his reasoning and the potential for damage that I was ignoring. I was reluctant when I said, ". . .o. . .k..."
Translation: I told him to google Van Hunt and Prince because some Hunt stan told me to. I pressed enter. and right there, at the top of the page was a heading, "Van Hunt is Prince's Son." This time it was Prince.org. "Oh, Jesus" I whispered. I had to have it.
Translation: I thought maybe there was a chance people would be licking my balls on the site. I read the first line, "there aint sh*t about Van Hunt that's genius." Or something to that effect. My son reads almost as fast as i do. But, I caught him before he got to the curse words. I said "go play." He started to challenge the order. I put on my transformer face. He found a toy
Translation: People dug all in my ass and I didn't want my kid to realize how much I suck so I punched him and sent him to bed. The debate seemed to be fueled by the bodyguarding of Prince's legacy and about the question of whether or not I was a good musician. They mentioned other musicians who would supposedly wipe the floor with me (even 10 year old musicians).
Translation: They must think I suck because they're mad I and my label try to associate myself with Prince and not because I actually suck. Yeah that's it. What they don't realize is that I've played guitar with, for and beside most of their heroes. And, I doubt that any of those musicians would say that I couldn't hold my own. What they don't know is that guitar isn't even my first instrument. Piano is. What they don't know is I never set out to make improvisational solo records.
Translation: I think that tuning guitars for decent bands on tour means I'm hot. I'm sure that the people I tuned for wouldn't be cruel enough to say my music sucks. I think that mastery of the basics of guitar, piano, and drum playing means I can't suck. I think my shitty elevator music is amazing. I fast forward through Prince's guitar solos. As a matter of fact I would be more likely to listen to Thelonious Monk play one of his tinkly excursions than I would Art Tatum. Charlie Parker could MAKE you hear modal scales in fourths-using major minor 11ths and do it before you notice that Mccoy Tyner or Oscar Peterson didn't even have his hands on the keys. but, i put my money on Johnny Hodges. slow notes by the most beautiful horn tone in the business. Ask me who's the better singer, Sam Cooke or Muddy Waters, and I'll say, obviously, Sam Cooke. But, ask me who I prefer to listen to and, well... Muddy is my man! And, if u listened to Sly's 'there's a riot goin on' you would not walk away from that record claiming that George Benson or Herbie Hancock need be worried about claims on their Godliness. But, it's MY favorite record.
Translation: Let me shit on Prince a little and downplay his rep and list my record collection of established greats and repeat stuff I heard others say about them because that will somehow give me credit and make me not SUCK. What they don't know is that 'their man', while he is an incredible talent and entertainer, he willed his biggest hits into being. Because he HAD to be a star. He no longer writes great songs because being a great songwriter was never his goal. Being relevant was/is.
Translation: Let me shit on Prince's obvious talent and diversity and spout absolute bullshit about who he is as an artist some more in the hopes that it will build my wack ass up. What they don't know is that Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Duke Ellington...THOSE are great songwriters. They wrote hundreds of them- consistently. Nary a dud in their entire career. What they don't know is that Michelangelo was an artist. Marlon Brando was an artiste (emphasis on the 'iste'). Each more naturally skillful than any of the people I've mentioned. Ayn Rand, Tennessee Williams... craftsmen. Read 'Fountainhead' or watch 'Night of The Iguana'. the work is more fine tuned and sharp and sophisticated than any of the people I've mentioned. They don't know that these are the benchmarks for me. Not their obsolete little argument over who has the best album of the last 20 years that was played on the now invisible and inaudible "black radio."
Translation: Blah blah blah, I'll never be as good as Prince or any other established talent so I'll spout more bs. What they can't comprehend is the lengths I have gone to create what is my highest ideal...for their world to sneer at...and that it is quietly reaching critical immunity because of the dues that i have paid.
Translation: Shut up, people do like my shitty music. Watch watch! and you can't borrow none of my toys no more doo doo head booger face So, kiss my a** while you decide if i'm worth your respect. it shouldn't matter to me; and, i am glad to say that it doesn't anymore. and, i will tell my child the same thing the next time he asks me to google Van Hunt's son: it's none of your business what people say about you
Translation: Please love my shitty elevator music. I'll i'll suck ya dick details on my future coming tuesday
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Dance said: Couple of things that the org doesn't lert me quote fully for whatever reason When oh when will the NPGMCult please open again . With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Damn i can actually say that i'm happy he found this thread.
edit: even more-so, i hope this will mark the end to comparison threads, it's getting tired people come on. it's funny how no one gets tired of flapping their lips when it comes to hating someone, but it's so hard to actually commend someone on great work... [Edited 1/13/08 12:23pm] [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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I'm glad as well. Van Hunt is doing his own thing. Good onhim. I've enjoyed his Albums and cam across his first Album by pure fluke, just like I found Nate James.
When you fins another good artist it is very easy to try and get everyone into them, maybe because they have a sound like .... or they look a bit like..... But you always get people who just want to diss these people because they don't do it for them. I've listened to many artists, D'Angelo, Van Hunt, Nate James, David Jordan and they all sound like they have been influenced by Prince, but remember, Prince was influenced by others in the same way. Let's just enjoy and support other artists who we enjoy without dissing anyone. Let's just enjoy and share the music! http://www.myspace.com/savage1999uk
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utopia7 said: "That's what they live for...to dismantle people and overcompensate for their personal problems...all from behind a computer screen."
So much negative energy in this thread. I think Van's psychological insight here is on point. Why spread a drop of negativity, when you could by making love or music or playing in the sunshine? | |
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Dance said: Yes, he must be a damn good musician if he has time to be surfing looking for positive comments on his music instead of I don't know PERFORMING, RECORDING, JAMMING or actually interacting with his child instead of surfing with them. If you have a myspace, you're a tool. If you have a myspace and you're over 14, you need therapy. I don't care if it's "only for my music." You make a lot of assumptions about things and it more than proves you don't know shit about shit. Very clever of you to post those hilarious "translations" in both threads too! | |
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guitarslinger44 said: Dance said: Yes, he must be a damn good musician if he has time to be surfing looking for positive comments on his music instead of I don't know PERFORMING, RECORDING, JAMMING or actually interacting with his child instead of surfing with them. If you have a myspace, you're a tool. If you have a myspace and you're over 14, you need therapy. I don't care if it's "only for my music." You make a lot of assumptions about things and it more than proves you don't know shit about shit. Very clever of you to post those hilarious "translations" in both threads too! With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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thekidsgirl said: I LOVE VAN!!!
Me too! And now that he's actually commented on this very thread, I'm pissed that I now look like a johnny come lately. Shoulda posted my love for him as soon as I saw a van hunt thread! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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I don't know enough about Van Hunt to have an opinion but I respect him and his talent. I actually have on of his CD's, I think it's from 2006 where it's just him standing in front of a White background. I haven't listened to it yet but I might just have to now. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: I don't know enough about Van Hunt to have an opinion but I respect him and his talent. I actually have on of his CD's, I think it's from 2006 where it's just him standing in front of a White background. I haven't listened to it yet but I might just have to now.
That's "On the Jungle Floor" & it fucking ROCKS | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: thekidsgirl said: I LOVE VAN!!!
Me too! And now that he's actually commented on this very thread, I'm pissed that I now look like a johnny come lately. Shoulda posted my love for him as soon as I saw a van hunt thread! I love "Down Here In Hell". And the video is one of my favorites...when he rocks his girl in his lap while playing his guitar - mmm. | |
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Funny, because the comments on this thread didn't even seem particularly mean. Some people agreed Van Hint is good, some didn't.
But I've seen much meaner, and about our own diminutive rocker! My Legacy
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CalhounSq said: purplecam said: I don't know enough about Van Hunt to have an opinion but I respect him and his talent. I actually have on of his CD's, I think it's from 2006 where it's just him standing in front of a White background. I haven't listened to it yet but I might just have to now.
That's "On the Jungle Floor" & it fucking ROCKS Thanks CalhounSq! I will look for it tonight when I get home. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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VANT HUNT IS A COCKRING!!!!! I HOWP HE DUN,T GOOGLE THEM TO WORDS TO HAHAHAHAHAHA | |
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bsk3601 said: Van Hunt
... just another face in the crowd ... [Edited 1/13/08 10:52am] apros po song qoute | |
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Bishop31 said: Still not impressed yet...
I'm waiting to be hooked...but not yet. I just don't get the hype.. [Edited 1/4/08 10:51am] co-sign. he shoulda stuck to runnin the streets. meh Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND | |
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