http://youtube.com/watch?v=RGtIc0Q7U4I

Damn i love t pain' part and love the burn rubber part, damn this song is cooked crack, and after listening to how can you hate this song,

qvgangsta18 said:

Are you actually T-Pain or do you just work for him? I'm not a fan of the guy, I heard his album really sucked and I don't think he has much talent.

I can't stand T-Pain, but this song is pretty good. Not as good as anything on his last album (which was great imo).

Charlie's determined to shit on everything he's done.

How does he not realize he's above all these nutsacks he's recording with?

I need some medicine.

Dance said:

Brotha man gotta eat,,,or join the chitlin circuit. He ain't putting new flags anywhere, though.

I remember when Angela Winbush re-did her song and titled it "I Love The Dough" for Biggie, and Stephanie Mills doing "Whatcha Gonna Do With My Lovin'" for DMX.

The whole thing is absured, though. I agree.

Harlepolis said:

I understand that he doesn't want to end up a horror story or living off SS checks, but there are better ways to go about that. He really doesn't have to be standing next to Timberfuck or messing with Rape Kelly. He certainly doesn't need to be standing somewhere in a damn fitted.

Shameful.

Dance said:

Working with R. Kelly and Justin HELPED Charlie. R. Kelly is the one that got him his deal with Jive. Before that, he was doing the small label/indie stuff and only selling a few thousand copies. His last album went gold and put him back on the map with the 30 and older crowd.

Sure, he may have the talent, but Charlie is smart enough to work with people that are going to take his career to the next level.

daPrettyman said:

Why are you listening to this dude DANCE he is a joke he is as bad as vainandy, and the rest of the losers who complain ALL THE TIME.

qvgangsta18 said:

Go listen to some 50 Cent or something

daPrettyman said:

Dude, no.

All Rape Kelly did was help him snag young poon and buy a few suits, and maybe got him some more gigs.

On the map? With the 30+ crowd?

He never went anywhere especially with an audience that knows him like the back of their hand. Grown ass people aren't checkin for Rape Kelly. Those wack producers didn't take him anywhere, but some wack ass pop radio concerts. You act like he's Britney status now or something.

Like I said, he can stay alive without sacrificing everything he's about, and the demo he's targeting doesn't give a damn about him.

There are all these people that somehow think 14yr olds are keeping people's lights on. They only keep a roof over Omarion's head. Everyone else is kidding themselves. Ask Norah Jones.

daPrettyman said:

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You are delusional. MAZE sells out 20k arenas and you do not see Frankie Beverly slumming with jokes like T-Pain.

laurarichardson said:

your the delusional one, they don't sell no 20k, they play the New Edition circuit the 2k - 5k circuit which is good, but they don't play no 20k, aight

qvgangsta18 said:

Who gives a fuck how big arenas they can sell out... at least they make REAL MUSIC instead of fucking bullshit like T-Pain and the like.

There are bands of 60 year olds making more money doing small gigs than newer established acts who have to resort to peddling perfume, ringtones, or cheeseburgers just to break even.

Why?

Talent vs. Tpains

FuNkeNsteiN said:

WHAT IS REAL MUSIC????

I have heard a lot of people say funk music aint REAL MUSIC, and utter garbage but hey you love it

Dance said:

Man, u haven't a clue!
U must not listen 2 Urban AC radio at all.

qvgangsta18 said:

You shouldn't discuss music with crackheads.

Most of these "hot" artists, who are only hot according to their promo teams, can't have a successful tour to save their lives.

They have to cancel dates because no one buys.

They end up looking at three rows of people.

Most of the bigger acts spend their tour budget and ticket money on 50 dancers, pyro, studio musicians, specially recorded back tracks, costumes, stylists, and a mansion on wheels.

They have to do all that because they suck and can't draw people with just their voice and a couple instruments.

What's a T Pain? I'm so outta the loop, dude. Not that I've a desire to get in it.

RipHer2Shreds said:

Keep it that way

Harlepolis said:

I'm just getting old. Performers don't have names anymore; they've got conditions.

They do 20k in D.C. and they sell out the Essence Fest every year.

Old heads turn out for concerts and that is how you make money my friend.

T-Pain will not be around in a year. This song sucks ass. Does anyone have a sense of rhythm. (LOL)


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qvgangsta18 said:

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qvgangsta18 said:

I'm no T-Pain fan. But at least I can dance to this.

Charlie is my boy but this is hawt GARBAGE.

Harlepolis said:

At least DMX is a huge fan of Stephanie's music. Also the songwriters of the original were still getting paid. I can't hate.

Dance said:

And I thought Vainandy was the master of taking arists names in vain.

laurarichardson said:

Case in point: Frankie Beverly didn't run to MC Rob Base. MC Rob Base ran to Frankie Beverly. That's the difference.

qvgangsta18 said:

REAL MUSIC -- a type of music in which all three basic elements (rhythm, melody, harmony) can co-exist at the same time at any tempo.

By this definition alone, beats & replay loops alone are not enough to be consider real music (according to real music critics).

laurarichardson said:

Excellent point. And maze hasn't recorded a studio album since 1993 and can
put more asses in seats than keyshia cole and t-pain.