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Thread started 10/14/02 2:48am

DigitalLisa

Old School VS New School

Would there even be a competition? Most music is today is sampled from older music back in days. If everyone is singing the same song, Then where's the battle in that?
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Reply #1 posted 10/14/02 2:52am

DavidEye

DigitalLisa said:

Would there even be a competition? Most music is today is sampled from older music back in days. If everyone is singing the same song, Then where's the battle in that?


Agreed! To tell you the truth,I mainly listen to 70s and early 80s music.Back then,the funk was ALIVE!!
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Reply #2 posted 10/14/02 4:34am

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I listen to 60s and 70s funk and soul, my jazz section (all vinyl) goes from the 20s- 70s. So I guess you can call me oldschool then. However, there is artistry in sampling old grooves, and the jazz pieces in Hip Hop have educated many youngsters on Jazz. Its a good first step to get into the real shit.
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Reply #3 posted 10/14/02 5:16am

mistermaxxx

I'm along the lines of DavidEye&SoulPower's Post.that is what I Listen to as well Mainly 98.9% of the time.
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Reply #4 posted 10/14/02 7:05pm

purplecam

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And I'm with DavieEye, SoulPower and Mistermaxx with this too. I love music from the 70 & 80's more than anything that's come out in the last 10 years. Sad I tell you.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #5 posted 10/14/02 10:48pm

FlyingCloudPas
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Me too, I'm with DavieEye, SoulPower, Mistermaxx and Purplecam
with this as well...

60's, 70's, 80's and a very slight tip of the early 90's.

It's really does suck. But some bands break through with some good songs. It just takes work to find them.

I think technology has ruined a lot of popular, rock n' roll. It's like the movies...lot's of effects, you know, there's software to Photoshop each frame, extreme unrealistic action scenes...it's all fabricated, digitized...tricked up, faked.

The RAPPERS, or rather how they prefer to be known now as Hip Hoppers, they pick up these easy tools that skip musicianship, innovation, WORK!

Kids think it's easy to just get a few keyboards and pull up a beat, then lay mindless sounds over them and talk really fast and "clever".

Well, it was kind of cool sometime in the late 80's, those rules were fresh then, but most kids think it's easy.

But musicianship prevails. It's in some. I go to the NAMM show every year and I tell I see little kids who are incredible musicians, be it drummers, guitarists, violinists, pianists, vocalists, their out there.

But unfortunatley the powers that be at the record labels and big corporate machines, they don't care about those talents anymore. It's just about the money and what they could sell immediatley as sex or the latest flavor. It's not sad, it's tragic.
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Reply #6 posted 10/15/02 7:26am

SweeTea

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I'm straddling the fence on this one. But make no doubt about it I'm definately old school, however, I think somehow we've been misguided about the sampling craze of the 80's & 90's. Or maybe I'm just taking a different perspective on the subject. I mean it's kinda hard to top the tightness of the 70's unless you're a musical genius like Prince or have the staying power of The Isleys or Michael Jackson. Where else is there to go for the average artist? And when done with thought and skill sampling songs from the 70's can be made to move heads & feet. Take Mary J for example.

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Reply #7 posted 10/19/02 7:47pm

Paisley

Eye'm sorry but nothing comes close 2 Old School that was the SHIT!
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Reply #8 posted 10/19/02 8:25pm

Natasha

I listen to everything from Charlie Parker,Billie Holliday to Punk like Dead Kennedys ,Marilyn Manson, Ministry. Funny how I'm such a Huge Prince fan but love Punk and the New York Dolls and Rap like DMX or Fabulous,J-Zee, or BJORK. I tend to like the Old stuff alot for Jazz but I'm digging on much more new Music. The old Rap was much different for sure and less Violent or Pornographic. The old R&B was slower and more about Love and Romance. Today it's Sex,Sex,Sex as Missy or Lil Kim sings it or the Clips. Times have Indeed Changed and do we stay Stuck in the Old or Progress to the New? We got to be With the Times my Friends ...Like it or not this is 2002 and not 1962. Suffice to say sorry if you don't like it MOM and Dad,but This Is How It Is...You Better Roll With It or You Will Get left Out In The Cold...!!! Watch the Teenagers My friends!!!
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Reply #9 posted 10/19/02 8:55pm

Starmist7

DigitalLisa said:

Would there even be a competition? Most music is today is sampled from older music back in days. If everyone is singing the same song, Then where's the battle in that?


Most??? I think that this has been going on for a very long time.

The only battle in that, is in fact, that most of today's 'artists' can't even compete with the old school, because most the music back then was more true, than some artists 'work' today...

So I think, that there is NO COMPETITION whatsoever.
[This message was edited Sat Oct 19 20:57:52 PDT 2002 by Starmist7]
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Reply #10 posted 10/23/02 3:27am

whatitaint

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Old school is real music by musicians... New school is shite by beat programmers and sample happy nitwits. no heart in production it all sounds the same... pick up an instrument u sample happy dickheads and learn to play an instrument biggrin
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