I love 80's music and the sounds it has, so naturally I love the Bad album.

henree said:

Much of it was all mechanical..i dont think there was a deply layered song in that album except for a little bit on "Liberian Girl" There was a thumping power and live sounds that were scattered in Thiller. That is what was missing

I gather you don't own the remastered version of Bad? Try getting a copy of that then tell me Bad sounds dated.I love SOTT too but i would really love for it to be remastered too

seeingvoices12 said:

I ain't kidding at all. Just the song "Bad" is enough to ruin 10 albums. " "Dangerous"? The only thing dangerous about Michael is leaving him alone with your prepubescent boys

henree said:

you must not have the remastered album... because the sound quality sounds great to me... if you have the old compact disc then yes it probably has terrible sound quality... older compact discs sound terrible...

i don't know whats so dated about this at all.

it sounds fucking crisp and clear and fucking great

the synths on this album are a fucking masterpiece.

liberian girl, way you make me feel, speed demon, smooth criminal, dirty diana, etc

all cracking songs which sound great, no matter what instruments or synths you play them with.

thats the sign of great songs.

whoever calls these synths "dated" is probably a fuck face.

80s synth programmers were much more intelligent and advanced than today's shit faced fuckers, especially the Shit hop crowd, who use simply sounds.

At least the Bad album, Michael boddicker actually created each sound one by one himself and made them unique.

Shit hop today uses a lot of shitty presets from trance synths which any fuck face can do.

it takes talent and bollocks to create memorable synth bass lines and custom sounds.

bad has it all and much more.

fuck all you who dont agree!

johnnyreeferseed said:

Can't ya'll go FOR ONCE without ruining a MJ thread?

I mean, damn!

johnnyreeferseed said:

Haven't I told you already that i don't take what you say seriously, Im not surprised you wrote thst comment, again so typical and Vulgar.


dirtyman2005 said

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dirtyman2005 said:

johnnyreeferseed said:

Effin hell! Enough already. That shits getting old and you know it. Why do people like you keep ruining the MJ threads?
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DANGEROUSx said:

Just ignore them. These comments are getting so old that they are sort of laughable. Are these people incapable of coming up with anything original to say in their insults?

I responded before your edit. I made the change.
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Rodya24 said:

Thanks Kinda had to let it out, I wouldn't wanna start a riot with the MJ haters.

Can anyone imagine the album with the original cover?

bboy87 said:

Was the picture on the left or on the right supposed to be the original cover?

"Bad", while not a good as "Thriller", is still one of the best pop albums of the 1980's. However, even with the musical craftsmanship on that album, it sounds dated simply because it reflects most of the musical production of that period. It wasn't just MJ; most pop, R&B, and even some hair metal acts were laying down some heavy synth tracks during that time. While most of the new wave of the early 1980's was heavy on synthesizers, most of the instruments were crude, and a lot of the artists weren't very polished musicians either, so the music that they put out, while mechanical in parts, still sounded organic and had feeling. By the late 1980's, when just about every band and studio musician were using synths, the sound became too polished and slick, and as a result the music became sterile.

BTW, "Dangerous" was a huge sea change from "Bad" production-wise. While I wasn't initially impressed by the album when it first came out, the album has held up considerably well over time, and if you take out the treacly tracks like "Black and White" and "Heal The World", you have a really funky, danceable album left over.

728huey said:

Replace Heal The World with For All Time or Monkey Business and Dangerous would be near perfect

seeingvoices12 said:

Just hear that song all over again and I can tell that Michael & Teddy work long hours and many days to get that track right.

I love the dated feeling of Bad and it's actually one of his finest albums ever. And though it's not no Thriller, on its own, it's a fine album. This and Dangerous were his finest moments.

dirtyman2005 said:

Post of the YEAR!

AlexdeParis said:

I liked the characters album as well. I liked it better than in square circle
which i thought epitomized the 80's pop crossover phenomenon that was happening at the time. All those songs you mentioned from characters and more i thought were great. Nevertheless the bad album while not completely horrible certainly doesn't stand up to off the wall, thriller, or dangerous.

DANGEROUSx said:

For real. I don't know anyone in REAL LIFE who thinks jokes about Michael and kids are funny anymore to be honest. The shit is played out and takes absolutely no brain power. These haters need to get some new jokes already. Lame asses .

dirtyman2005 said:

Too funny!

Personally, I think that "Bad" sounds extremely dated and I don't think it's as good as "Off The Wall", "Thriller" and "Dangerous" but it's still a solid album. I especially love "Dirty Diana", "The Way You Make Me Feel", "Another Part of Me" "Smooth Criminal" and "Liberian Girl". Now, if Michael had included "Streetwalker" and "Fly Away" on the album however I think the album could have been a masterpiece.
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I rarely listen to Bad for this very reason. Where is the bass?

I do agree that the sounds are unique, but also still horribly dated.

johnnyreeferseed said:

Cinnie said:

The Bad album is completely devoid of "bass". And there are plenty of synth heavy hits from the late 80's that don't sound nearly as chessy as the 'Bad' tracks.

The bass is on the record. It is mastered accordingly to the standards of its time - if you listen to it on a late-80s system, or something that came out earlier, it will sound exactly like it should. The problem is home stereo manufacturers started cutting back on all possible costs in the successive years (basic capitalism) and the recording industry had to adopt to that as a reaction. As a result older albums don't play like they should on newer systems.

Because playback clarity these days is compensated by overt enhancement of higher frequencies (a very cheap method of doing it by the way) the late-80s records will suffer the most from that, as whilst the records of that time still had a more natural range the producers were already starting to boost the higher frequencies for a more high-fidelity effect. CDs of course didn't suffer from high-frequency loss in the first place compared to the rather cheaply manufactured, thin 80s vinyl LPs (which is probably why so many thought in the 80s that the sound on CDs was a huge improvement over vinyl). Add these aspects to the fact that "clarity" these days on stereos is achieved by simply boosting the high-end, and not by having better quality amplifiers and elements, and the bass disappears as a result. The same thing also imparts the way the frequency responses are standardized on higher quality modern hifi systems as well, so you're not getting the appropriate response from a more expensive new system either, even if it will of course sound better.

The modern, "improved sound quality" is to a large part, a hoax in my mind. It is based on a more distinctive separation of the low and high-frequencies, whereas most playback system manufacturers could care less about decent-sounding mids. That's really where the music used to happen. Now it's just booming bass and chirpy highs that are used to mask the fact that nothing's happening at the properly musical regions where instruments operate.

The Bad CD sounds different to me from the special edition. Dirty Diana sounds more polished on the new one, while on the old one, the percussion is louder and the sound has more of a live feel to it for example.

novabrkr said:

After 10 years of trying my hand at mixing I still might not be able to pull off a good mix that would sound good at all systems myself, but at least I effectively know what will fuck it all up better than many.

AlexdeParis said:

I have the original and the remaser of Bad. While the remaster did improve the product soundwise, it still has a dated feel to it. Songs like Liberian Girl and Man In The Mirror have a different sound to them vs songs like "Just Good Friends" or Speed Demon.

As for Characters, I have the original 1987 pressing. It is mastered HORRIBLY low. I have made sound files and everything to try to improve on the quality, but it still pales in compairson to a decent remaster.

bboy87 said:

Nice...but very GAY at the same time. How can u be bad with lace across ur face? I guess he really was trying to bite off of Prince huh?!?
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