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Thread started 12/31/07 1:29pm

henree

Michael Jackson's "Bad" album sounds horrible...

I haven't listened to this album in a long while. But I popped it in a few days ago. And I am amazed by the sound quality of it. It sounds incredibly cheap. Like it was made with a 10 dollar casio keyboard. What is even more shocking is that Quincy Jones produced it. Thriller came out in the early 80's and sounds amazing. How come this album sounds so lifeless and and 2 dimensional? Could it be bad mastering or engineering? Or maybe they were going for a type of sound? There is no bass going on in anything on this record. The lyrics and melodies are top notch though. It is just the actual sound quality that keeps me from listening to this album very often.
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Reply #1 posted 12/31/07 1:33pm

SoulAlive

I don't like this album very much,either.Something about it just doesn't "click" with me.It's hard to explain.I only like three songs...

"Man In The Mirror"
"Another Part Of Me"
"Liberian Girl"


I don't think the album has aged very well,either.That's a problem with many albums that came out in the late 80s.The music sounds sterile and over-produced.
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Reply #2 posted 12/31/07 1:34pm

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henree said:

I haven't listened to this album in a long while. But I popped it in a few days ago. And I am amazed by the sound quality of it. It sounds incredibly cheap. Like it was made with a 10 dollar casio keyboard. What is even more shocking is that Quincy Jones produced it. Thriller came out in the early 80's and sounds amazing. How come this album sounds so lifeless and and 2 dimensional? Could it be bad mastering or engineering? Or maybe they were going for a type of sound? There is no bass going on in anything on this record. The lyrics and melodies are top notch though. It is just the actual sound quality that keeps me from listening to this album very often.

If I'm not mistaken, that album was technically advanced for 1987. It was one of the first full digital recordings using Monster technology. It even won a Grammy for best engineering.

If you think it sounds horrible today, try listening to Stevie Wonder's Characters or Woman In Red. Some of those trax didn't age well at all.
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Reply #3 posted 12/31/07 1:36pm

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daPrettyman said:

henree said:

I haven't listened to this album in a long while. But I popped it in a few days ago. And I am amazed by the sound quality of it. It sounds incredibly cheap. Like it was made with a 10 dollar casio keyboard. What is even more shocking is that Quincy Jones produced it. Thriller came out in the early 80's and sounds amazing. How come this album sounds so lifeless and and 2 dimensional? Could it be bad mastering or engineering? Or maybe they were going for a type of sound? There is no bass going on in anything on this record. The lyrics and melodies are top notch though. It is just the actual sound quality that keeps me from listening to this album very often.

If I'm not mistaken, that album was technically advanced for 1987. It was one of the first full digital recordings using Monster technology. It even won a Grammy for best engineering.

If you think it sounds horrible today, try listening to Stevie Wonder's Characters or Woman In Red. Some of those trax didn't age well at all.



You are correct.Stevie's 'Characters' sounds just as horribly dated as 'Bad'.Around this time period,I really appreciated Prince's music.While everyone else was using all these synths and drum programming,he was bringing back horns and real instruments ('SOTT' and 'Lovesexy').
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Reply #4 posted 12/31/07 1:43pm

DANGEROUSx

I think Bad is MJs most dated album, but it doesn't sound cheap.

The Way You Make Me Feel, Dirty Diana, Liberian Girl love
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Reply #5 posted 12/31/07 1:46pm

VoicesCarry

You are just hearing one of the most dated albums of the 80's. Doesn't make it bad, just a product of its time.
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Reply #6 posted 12/31/07 1:52pm

Dance

There's nothing wrong with synths. What's wrong is when someone who's not a real musician, meaning a talentless clown or some studio musician, picks one up they make dated disposable music. P's synth heavy stuff has held up and so has the music of a few others.

Um, but Bad kicks all kinds of ass(you know you're still trying to perfect your curl juice application to get that look), so I don't know what you're talking about. I'm about to dust off my Moonwalker video, my cheap keyboard, and my Bad book and jam.
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Reply #7 posted 12/31/07 1:55pm

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Bad is probably the MJ album that gets the least replay from me if any at all. Even when it dropped it was a bit of a force fit for me.
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Reply #8 posted 12/31/07 2:10pm

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I'm not sure I agree. 'Bad' sounds awesome when I play it on my system. And I don't even have that crazy of a system. Try listening to 'Purple Rain' then put on 'Bad' & U tell me which sounds worst....

I'll wait.

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Reply #9 posted 12/31/07 2:21pm

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SoulAlive said:

daPrettyman said:


If I'm not mistaken, that album was technically advanced for 1987. It was one of the first full digital recordings using Monster technology. It even won a Grammy for best engineering.

If you think it sounds horrible today, try listening to Stevie Wonder's Characters or Woman In Red. Some of those trax didn't age well at all.



You are correct.Stevie's 'Characters' sounds just as horribly dated as 'Bad'.Around this time period,I really appreciated Prince's music.While everyone else was using all these synths and drum programming,he was bringing back horns and real instruments ('SOTT' and 'Lovesexy').

shrug Bad and especially Characters sound fine to me. I like that they sound like they came from 1987... they did. lol
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Reply #10 posted 12/31/07 2:29pm

Dance

Stevie's 80s shit is zipped
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Reply #11 posted 12/31/07 2:37pm

SoulAlive

Dance said:

Stevie's 80s shit is zipped


There's nothing wrong with the lyrics on his 80s albums,it's the production.Like almost everyone else from that era,he was using too many synths and drum programming....a total departure from his 70s work.I often wonder how an album like 'Characters' would sound if he had used real instruments,real drums,piano,harmonica,etc.
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Reply #12 posted 12/31/07 2:46pm

Harlepolis

I love Bad, it was my 1st album from MJ. It the was 1s soundtrack to my life in the 80s.

I don't mind the dated sound, as long as there is substance to back it up(which there is) its fine by me.

There're plenty of ROUGH musicians in there, but like VoiceCarry said, it is a product of its time.

But to me, its dated sound is really the part of its charm.
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Reply #13 posted 12/31/07 2:49pm

Harlepolis

SoulAlive said:

Dance said:

Stevie's 80s shit is zipped


There's nothing wrong with the lyrics on his 80s albums,it's the production.Like almost everyone else from that era,he was using too many synths and drum programming....a total departure from his 70s work.I often wonder how an album like 'Characters' would sound if he had used real instruments,real drums,piano,harmonica,etc.


Now that you've mentioned it.

I heard that alot of his 80's hits were re-recorded to fit the 80's sound, like "I Just Called To Say I Love You"(Which was originally an outtake from SOTKOL).
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Reply #14 posted 12/31/07 2:53pm

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henree said:

I haven't listened to this album in a long while. But I popped it in a few days ago. And I am amazed by the sound quality of it. It sounds incredibly cheap. Like it was made with a 10 dollar casio keyboard. What is even more shocking is that Quincy Jones produced it. Thriller came out in the early 80's and sounds amazing. How come this album sounds so lifeless and and 2 dimensional? Could it be bad mastering or engineering? Or maybe they were going for a type of sound? There is no bass going on in anything on this record. The lyrics and melodies are top notch though. It is just the actual sound quality that keeps me from listening to this album very often.


Not a full QJ production... Michael made a lot of changes without Q's input. You are right about the cheezy sooud though.
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Reply #15 posted 12/31/07 2:53pm

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I wonder how it would've done if it had been a double album like Michael wanted it to be.....
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Reply #16 posted 12/31/07 2:53pm

SoulAlive

Harlepolis said:

SoulAlive said:



There's nothing wrong with the lyrics on his 80s albums,it's the production.Like almost everyone else from that era,he was using too many synths and drum programming....a total departure from his 70s work.I often wonder how an album like 'Characters' would sound if he had used real instruments,real drums,piano,harmonica,etc.


Now that you've mentioned it.

I heard that alot of his 80's hits were re-recorded to fit the 80's sound, like "I Just Called To Say I Love You"(Which was originally an outtake from SOTKOL).


yeah,"I Just Called To Say I Love You" was written in 1976.I bet the original version (if it really exists) sounds much,much better than the released 1984 version.
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Reply #17 posted 12/31/07 3:07pm

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Harlepolis said:

But to me, its dated sound is really the part of its charm.

nod That's exactly how I feel about Characters. I see no need to even consider changing great songs like "Skeletons," "My Eyes Don't Cry," "Free," "You Will Know," and "In Your Corner." I love that album just the way it is.

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Reply #18 posted 12/31/07 3:12pm

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Michael Jackson should have retired after Thriller. Everything he's done since then has sucked donkey balls.
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Reply #19 posted 12/31/07 3:19pm

WildStyle

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Bad is my favourite album smile
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Reply #20 posted 12/31/07 3:36pm

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johnnyreeferseed said:

Michael Jackson should have retired after Thriller. Everything he's done since then has sucked donkey balls.

You are just clueless , No doubt about that lol

Dangerous murders Bad , production and melodies-wise.
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Reply #21 posted 12/31/07 3:41pm

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henree said:

I haven't listened to this album in a long while. But I popped it in a few days ago. And I am amazed by the sound quality of it. It sounds incredibly cheap. Like it was made with a 10 dollar casio keyboard. What is even more shocking is that Quincy Jones produced it. Thriller came out in the early 80's and sounds amazing. How come this album sounds so lifeless and and 2 dimensional? Could it be bad mastering or engineering? Or maybe they were going for a type of sound? There is no bass going on in anything on this record. The lyrics and melodies are top notch though. It is just the actual sound quality that keeps me from listening to this album very often.


Are you kidding?!? The Way You Make Me Feel, Smooth Criminal, & Leave Me Alone have two of the most memorable basslines ever, especially if we're talking synth bass. cool
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Reply #22 posted 12/31/07 3:44pm

DANGEROUSx

johnnyreeferseed said:

Michael Jackson should have retired after Thriller. Everything he's done since then has sucked donkey balls.


You're kidding me right?
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Reply #23 posted 12/31/07 3:47pm

seeingvoices12

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DANGEROUSx said:

johnnyreeferseed said:

Michael Jackson should have retired after Thriller. Everything he's done since then has sucked donkey balls.


You're kidding me right?

Don't take what he said seriously lol , this is a typical prince fan who believes that Mj is over after thriller ,which is a laugh of course.
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Reply #24 posted 12/31/07 3:48pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

johnnyreeferseed said:

Michael Jackson should have retired after Thriller. Everything he's done since then has sucked donkey balls.

You are just clueless , No doubt about that lol

Dangerous murders Bad , production and melodies-wise.


The one advantage Dangerous has over Bad is actually the MIDI production side of things. The Teddy Riley-produced tracks (Jam, Why You Wanna Trip On Me, Remember The Time) had THE tightest music sequences of anything Michael had done up to that point.
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Reply #25 posted 12/31/07 3:54pm

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TonyVanDam said:

seeingvoices12 said:


You are just clueless , No doubt about that lol

Dangerous murders Bad , production and melodies-wise.


The one advantage Dangerous has over Bad is actually the MIDI production side of things. The Teddy Riley-produced tracks (Jam, Why You Wanna Trip On Me, Remember The Time) had THE tightest music sequences of anything Michael had done up to that point.


you forgot to mention " In the closet" , Production-wise its insane, Incredibly clean flawless production.....I love both albums tho.....
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Reply #26 posted 12/31/07 3:55pm

DANGEROUSx

seeingvoices12 said:

DANGEROUSx said:



You're kidding me right?

Don't take what he said seriously lol , this is a typical prince fan who believes that Mj is over after thriller ,which is a laugh of course.


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Reply #27 posted 12/31/07 3:57pm

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Some of the tracks from Dangerous could be released as singles today and sound hotter than Timbaland's beats from a few minutes ago.

The same ISN'T true for Bad.
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Reply #28 posted 12/31/07 3:59pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

DANGEROUSx said:



You're kidding me right?

Don't take what he said seriously lol , this is a typical prince fan who believes that Mj is over after thriller ,which is a laugh of course.

basically lol
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Reply #29 posted 12/31/07 4:10pm

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The title of this thread is just horrible more like biggrin

To me Bad is one of the best pop albums made and flows really well. Not many albums can boast so many good songs on one album. Its success speaks for itself. Even now I listen to songs like Smooth Criminal, Dirty Diana, Bad, IJCSLY TWYMMF, MITM, over today’s pop. I'd say its as close to a perfect pop album that it could have been. cool
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