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Harlepolis said: Thats why I can't be mad anymore when people like George Benson and George Duke do "Smooth Jazz". I hate the music with a passionate gut,,,but I understand why they do it and I stopped judging them for doing it. But you can pass judgement on the industry or 'business side' of the industry that 'forced' them to do that shit. | |
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Harlepolis said: prettymansson said: You speak the Hard Cold TRUTH !
Read again! There's ALOT of love behind it 
It pains me to see alot of good teachers out of work because they refuse to eknowledge the so-called "Ugly" side of the music industry. Why should I blame the record labels for my beloved musicians' ignorance? They're just doing their jobs just like the next person. If you don't have patience for this ride, somebody will take your place in no time. Thats why I can't be mad anymore when people like George Benson and George Duke do "Smooth Jazz". I hate the music with a passionate gut,,,but I understand why they do it and I stopped judging them for doing it. I can dig where you are coming from..people gotsta eat !  | |
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CalhounSq said: You are just a ball of sunshine
trapped in someone's ass What's wrong with being inside someone's ass? You know it's really quite fun. Have you tried it?  | |
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Dance said: CalhounSq said: You are just a ball of sunshine
trapped in someone's ass What's wrong with being inside someone's ass? You know it's really quite fun. Have you tried it? I meant it in a "fart/shit" kinda way, but whatevuh 
. [Edited 1/1/08 22:03pm]   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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violator said: Harlepolis said: Thats why I can't be mad anymore when people like George Benson and George Duke do "Smooth Jazz". I hate the music with a passionate gut,,,but I understand why they do it and I stopped judging them for doing it. But you can pass judgement on the industry or 'business side' of the industry that 'forced' them to do that shit. Nah, nobody forces you into anything. And like I said, either you know how to deal with the "business side" or you're fucked, like our friend Van Hunt. You can play both fences and cater to each side while you still do your thing. Herbie Hencock releases a song or 2 to shut the "Smooth Jazz" station up, but the rest of the album still represent what he was ALL about, always. With Benson and Duke, they went ALL the way "Smooth Jazz". Their choice and like Mansson said, people gotta eat. | |
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Harlepolis said: violator said: But you can pass judgement on the industry or 'business side' of the industry that 'forced' them to do that shit. Nah, nobody forces you into anything. And like I said, either you know how to deal with the "business side" or you're fucked, like our friend Van Hunt. You can play both fences and cater to each side while you still do your thing. Herbie Hencock releases a song or 2 to shut the "Smooth Jazz" station up, but the rest of the album still represent what he was ALL about, always. With Benson and Duke, they went ALL the way "Smooth Jazz". Their choice and like Mansson said, people gotta eat. That's why I said 'forced'. You are correct that no one is truly forced into anything. But the music business now operates in a manner that is not conducive to developing and nurturing artists. I do pass judgement on it for that. Van Hunt could make some concessions and choose to survive, even thrive perhaps, within that model. On that level I guess it's true that no one has to feel sorry for him. But I do feel sorry for the predicament on the whole because we get shittier music as a result. | |
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violator said: Harlepolis said: Nah, nobody forces you into anything. And like I said, either you know how to deal with the "business side" or you're fucked, like our friend Van Hunt. You can play both fences and cater to each side while you still do your thing. Herbie Hencock releases a song or 2 to shut the "Smooth Jazz" station up, but the rest of the album still represent what he was ALL about, always. With Benson and Duke, they went ALL the way "Smooth Jazz". Their choice and like Mansson said, people gotta eat. But I do feel sorry for the predicament on the whole because we get shittier music as a result. Now thats what I feel sorry for; the people. Even though its been said times and times again that the people are the ones to blame for supporting that kind of music by going out and buying it. I think the issue is much deeper than that. | |
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That last album is still in rotation with me so I guess I'll wait. | |
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tHE NEW VAN HUNT POPULAR is amazing....this is a perfect mix from such influences like Curtis Mayfield/Prince/Sly/Stevie wonder/fUNKADELIC! |
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Harlepolis said: violator said: But you can pass judgement on the industry or 'business side' of the industry that 'forced' them to do that shit. Nah, nobody forces you into anything. And like I said, either you know how to deal with the "business side" or you're fucked, like our friend Van Hunt. You can play both fences and cater to each side while you still do your thing. Herbie Hencock releases a song or 2 to shut the "Smooth Jazz" station up, but the rest of the album still represent what he was ALL about, always. With Benson and Duke, they went ALL the way "Smooth Jazz". Their choice and like Mansson said, people gotta eat. So what happen to the proper promotion for Van Hunt's debut album when he was playing it by the rules? The new album is like a concept album and the title track and the theme of the record is pretty much based on the very thing we are talking about, that's what the title track popular is all about. This guy has been around for awhile as a ghost writer and wrote a hit song in the late 90's that he was never paid for, I'm sure that, unless he has a mental problem of some sort he must have a good idea of how the buisnness side is ran at this point. If Van Hunt doesn't want to worry about sounding like soldier boy or whatever current artist that is out at the time I have nothing but respect for him. More musicians need to grow some balls and take a stand. [Edited 1/2/08 10:55am] | |
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Man, it's a shame this happened with this album--IMO, this is the one that truly delivers on the promise of the first two releases. I kinda liked the other albums, But he really brought it on this one! I guess it's no coincidence that it's probably his least commercial--hence the labels backing away from it. Damn, it figures that this would be the one that made me a believer.... ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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paligap said: ...
Man, it's a shame this happened with this album--IMO, this is the one that truly delivers on the promise of the first two releases. I kinda liked the other albums, But he really brought it on this one! I guess it's no coincidence that it's probably his least commercial--hence the labels backing away from it. Damn, it figures that this would be the one that made me a believer.... don't count it out yet, I bet it's still going to come out at a later date on a different label, the full article stated that he is already working on the fourth record and that he wants that one to be the one that will silence everyone, that he intends for it to be his masterpiece ... | |
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paligap said: ...
Man, it's a shame this happened with this album--IMO, this is the one that truly delivers on the promise of the first two releases. I kinda liked the other albums, But he really brought it on this one! I guess it's no coincidence that it's probably his least commercial--hence the labels backing away from it. Damn, it figures that this would be the one that made me a believer.... ... I pretty much agree. I think I will like this one a lot more than his others and they were not bad at all. With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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I wish I had gotten a promo copy now. 
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Meloh9 said: paligap said: ...
Man, it's a shame this happened with this album--IMO, this is the one that truly delivers on the promise of the first two releases. I kinda liked the other albums, But he really brought it on this one! I guess it's no coincidence that it's probably his least commercial--hence the labels backing away from it. Damn, it figures that this would be the one that made me a believer... don't count it out yet, I bet it's still going to come out at a later date on a different label, the full article stated that he is already working on the fourth record and that he wants that one to be the one that will silence everyone, that he intends for it to be his masterpiece ... I hope so, but I think a lot of people would really like this one, too! ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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Serious said: I pretty much agree. I think I will like this one a lot more than his others and they were not bad at all.  Yup!!
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paligap said: Serious said: I pretty much agree. I think I will like this one a lot more than his others and they were not bad at all. Yup!!
...  With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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paligap said: Yup!!
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violator said: paligap said: Yup!!
... Love the sig... Prefab Sprout is the bomb!!  Ndeed!!!! Love That Group!!! ( I know Paddy's still writing--I hope some of that music gets the light of day soon)
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