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Reply #180 posted 12/26/07 12:06pm

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Update: Omarion Addresses Manager Molestation Allegations, ''I Won't Stand Silent''

Former B2K frontman Omarion is denying allegations by fellow members Raz-B and Ricky Romance that the group's former manager molested them.

As SOHH previously reported, Demario "Raz B" Thornton and his older brother, Ricardo "Ricky Romance" Thornton, accused the group's former manager, Chris Stokes, of molestation in a video tape that recently surfaced.

Stokes responded by saying the claims "hold no merit" and were likely financially motivated. Now former group mate Omarion has issued a statement calling the accusations totally false.

"I want to be on the record as saying that 'Raz B' Thorton and Ricardo Thorton are lying regarding Chris Stokes," Omarion said via statement. "Chris is a father figure to myself, and many others in the industry. He's guided us, helped raise us and is nothing more than an inspiration and someone I respect and look up to.

"I have spent countless hours, days, weeks and months with the man since the age of 5 and have never once seen him behave inappropriately," he added. "He's married to my aunt and I know this man very well. I stand behind him with no question whatsoever."

Omarion said the accusations are damaging not only to Stokes but to Omarion himself because of the pair's close relationship.

"I have grown up around Chris and this is crazy to me," he said. "These people have damaged me and my reputation, and I won't stand silent and will do all within my means to speak the truth about this matter."
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Reply #181 posted 12/26/07 12:48pm

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Update: Omarion Addresses Manager Molestation Allegations, ''I Won't Stand Silent''

Former B2K frontman Omarion is denying allegations by fellow members Raz-B and Ricky Romance that the group's former manager molested them.

As SOHH previously reported, Demario "Raz B" Thornton and his older brother, Ricardo "Ricky Romance" Thornton, accused the group's former manager, Chris Stokes, of molestation in a video tape that recently surfaced.

Stokes responded by saying the claims "hold no merit" and were likely financially motivated. Now former group mate Omarion has issued a statement calling the accusations totally false.

"I want to be on the record as saying that 'Raz B' Thorton and Ricardo Thorton are lying regarding Chris Stokes," Omarion said via statement. "Chris is a father figure to myself, and many others in the industry. He's guided us, helped raise us and is nothing more than an inspiration and someone I respect and look up to.

"I have spent countless hours, days, weeks and months with the man since the age of 5 and have never once seen him behave inappropriately," he added. "He's married to my aunt and I know this man very well. I stand behind him with no question whatsoever."

Omarion said the accusations are damaging not only to Stokes but to Omarion himself because of the pair's close relationship.

"I have grown up around Chris and this is crazy to me," he said. "These people have damaged me and my reputation, and I won't stand silent and will do all within my means to speak the truth about this matter."

Now who's surprised by what Omarion's doing?
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Reply #182 posted 12/26/07 1:11pm

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I'd be surprised if little Omarion's scrap of a career survives through all this.
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Reply #183 posted 12/26/07 1:14pm

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purplecam said:

banks said:

Update: Omarion Addresses Manager Molestation Allegations, ''I Won't Stand Silent''

Former B2K frontman Omarion is denying allegations by fellow members Raz-B and Ricky Romance that the group's former manager molested them.

As SOHH previously reported, Demario "Raz B" Thornton and his older brother, Ricardo "Ricky Romance" Thornton, accused the group's former manager, Chris Stokes, of molestation in a video tape that recently surfaced.

Stokes responded by saying the claims "hold no merit" and were likely financially motivated. Now former group mate Omarion has issued a statement calling the accusations totally false.

"I want to be on the record as saying that 'Raz B' Thorton and Ricardo Thorton are lying regarding Chris Stokes," Omarion said via statement. "Chris is a father figure to myself, and many others in the industry. He's guided us, helped raise us and is nothing more than an inspiration and someone I respect and look up to.

"I have spent countless hours, days, weeks and months with the man since the age of 5 and have never once seen him behave inappropriately," he added. "He's married to my aunt and I know this man very well. I stand behind him with no question whatsoever."

Omarion said the accusations are damaging not only to Stokes but to Omarion himself because of the pair's close relationship.

"I have grown up around Chris and this is crazy to me," he said. "These people have damaged me and my reputation, and I won't stand silent and will do all within my means to speak the truth about this matter."

Now who's surprised by what Omarion's doing?



If Omarion is telling the truth, then he should consider suing his former bandmates for any lie that is being said about him.

If Omarion is lying, then that means that he has absolute no shame in F***ing For Tracks with anyone, including his own manager. But what works for Omarion & his career doesn't make it right for Raz B & Ricky if they're admitting that these things were an act of rape that was done on them.
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Reply #184 posted 12/26/07 1:21pm

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these guys pretty much killed their chance at a favorable trial by going on youtube and chris has plenty o ammo now to go after them for slander.

they should have gone to the courts first...and in the end, they all lose....reputations ruined, childhoods lost....

sad story.
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Reply #185 posted 12/26/07 1:25pm

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sosgemini said:

these guys pretty much killed their chance at a favorable trial by going on youtube and chris has plenty o ammo now to go after them for slander.

they should have gone to the courts first...and in the end, they all lose....reputations ruined, childhoods lost....

sad story.


I bet this case will be settle out of court. At this point, all reputations of both sides are out the window. And everyone is convince that more hip-hop/r&b artists are becoming more fake than ever.
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Reply #186 posted 12/26/07 3:30pm

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TonyVanDam said:

purplecam said:


Now who's surprised by what Omarion's doing?



If Omarion is telling the truth, then he should consider suing his former bandmates for any lie that is being said about him.

If Omarion is lying, then that means that he has absolute no shame in F***ing For Tracks with anyone, including his own manager. But what works for Omarion & his career doesn't make it right for Raz B & Ricky if they're admitting that these things were an act of rape that was done on them.


Given that these allegations of molestation would have taken place when these young men were mere boys, I hardly see a denial as fucking for tracks. Do you honestly think children fuck for tracks? If anything, given the stigma of molestation and same sex relationships in the black community I wouldn't be surprised if Omarion were simply trying to 'save face', so he wouldn't be ostracized, villified, and blackballed by his peers.
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Reply #187 posted 12/26/07 4:08pm

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Ottensen said:

TonyVanDam said:




If Omarion is telling the truth, then he should consider suing his former bandmates for any lie that is being said about him.

If Omarion is lying, then that means that he has absolute no shame in F***ing For Tracks with anyone, including his own manager. But what works for Omarion & his career doesn't make it right for Raz B & Ricky if they're admitting that these things were an act of rape that was done on them.


Given that these allegations of molestation would have taken place when these young men were mere boys, I hardly see a denial as fucking for tracks. Do you honestly think children fuck for tracks? If anything, given the stigma of molestation and same sex relationships in the black community I wouldn't be surprised if Omarion were simply trying to 'save face', so he wouldn't be ostracized, villified, and blackballed by his peers.


Children FFT? Of course not!

But right now, I talking about Omarion. What's his reason for denying the charges against Chris Stokes? And what do Omarion's former bandmates have to gain or lose in all of this? Better yet, what does Omarion have to gain or lose in all of this?
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Reply #188 posted 12/26/07 4:21pm

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Ottensen said:
TonyVanDam said:
purplecam said:
Now who's surprised by what Omarion's doing?


If Omarion is telling the truth, then he should consider suing his former bandmates for any lie that is being said about him.

If Omarion is lying, then that means that he has absolute no shame in F***ing For Tracks with anyone, including his own manager. But what works for Omarion & his career doesn't make it right for Raz B & Ricky if they're admitting that these things were an act of rape that was done on them.


Given that these allegations of molestation would have taken place when these young men were mere boys, I hardly see a denial as fucking for tracks. Do you honestly think children fuck for tracks? If anything, given the stigma of molestation and same sex relationships in the black community I wouldn't be surprised if Omarion were simply trying to 'save face', so he wouldn't be ostracized, villified, and blackballed by his peers.


If these sex acts took place while the members of B2K were still minors, then there could still be charges for sexual assault and rape brought against Chris Stokes depending on when and where these acts of molestation took place. However, each state has their own statute of limitations regarding child molestation, and I know that the state of Illinois has a seven year statute of limitations on child molestation which takes effect when the victim turns 18, even if the molestation happened years earlier. However, what makes it nearly impossible to prosecute these cases is usually the lack of circumstancial evidence tying the perpetrator to the crimes or absence of witnesses to the crime who will come forward to corroborate the allegations.

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Reply #189 posted 12/26/07 4:56pm

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Flowerz said:

purplecam said:

I wondered that too. The video obviously puts it out there for all the world to see but what I'm wondering is now that it's up and may potentially get thousands, maybe millions of views, I'm wondering if Chris Stokes will sue Raz-B and Ricky Romance for this. He could use the "Defamation of Character" or Slander charge on them. I could be wrong but I could see this backfiring on Raz and Ricky. The whole thing is just plain sad. Justice needs to happen.
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u're right ..if this all turns out to be lies .. u're 100% correct ..



Chris admitted it on tape obviously..what's to lie about?
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Reply #190 posted 12/26/07 6:34pm

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well, TUG is known for lying. When B2K came out, they were marketed as somewhat of a family group. They said Omarion was Marques Houston's brother, Lil Fizz was Romeo's younger brother or cousin, J Boog was Omarion's and Marques Houston's brother and Raz B was Stokes cousin. They also had a female singer named Jhene who was marketed as Lil Fizz's cousin. The only truth to this was that JBoog was actually Houston's cousin and Raz B was Stokes' cousin.
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Reply #191 posted 12/26/07 6:53pm

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purplecam said:

Alasseon said:

Wow.

I am *seriously* out of the game, because I've barely heard of these people.

Not to play stupid, but what are they known for? Omarion and B2K I've at least heard of. But are how big are they?

Another thing...if this is happening in the R-N-B world, is it also happening in the rap world?

Man, with this news and with R. Kelly *allegedly* peeing on his cousin, I long for the days of the old Prince vs. Michael threads.

And by the way, that pic IS suspect.

B2K was a hugely popular R&B group from 2001 to 2003 when they broke up. They had a big #1 song on the pop charts in 2002 or 2003 called "Bump Bump Bump" w/P.Diddy. Omarion was the lead singer of B2K and is now a pretty successful R&B solo artist. He's had 2 solo albums out in the last 2 years and he just came out with a duet album with the rapper Bow Wow.
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Ahhh, thank you. So the band only lasted two years. I remember the Bump Bump Bump song...Damn, these are some serious allegations.

But in the end, youtube is not the way to go with this. It only opens you up to being attacked by the other side. They should have saved the allegations for court, but maybe this is how they got the authorities interested in the case...
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Reply #192 posted 12/26/07 8:50pm

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Alasseon said:

purplecam said:


B2K was a hugely popular R&B group from 2001 to 2003 when they broke up. They had a big #1 song on the pop charts in 2002 or 2003 called "Bump Bump Bump" w/P.Diddy. Omarion was the lead singer of B2K and is now a pretty successful R&B solo artist. He's had 2 solo albums out in the last 2 years and he just came out with a duet album with the rapper Bow Wow.
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Ahhh, thank you. So the band only lasted two years. I remember the Bump Bump Bump song...Damn, these are some serious allegations.

But in the end, youtube is not the way to go with this. It only opens you up to being attacked by the other side. They should have saved the allegations for court, but maybe this is how they got the authorities interested in the case...


Stokes was able to crank out 7 releases in those 3 short years, too neutral
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Reply #193 posted 12/26/07 9:05pm

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well, TUG is known for lying. When B2K came out, they were marketed as somewhat of a family group. They said Omarion was Marques Houston's brother, Lil Fizz was Romeo's younger brother or cousin, J Boog was Omarion's and Marques Houston's brother and Raz B was Stokes cousin. They also had a female singer named Jhene who was marketed as Lil Fizz's cousin. The only truth to this was that JBoog was actually Houston's cousin and Raz B was Stokes' cousin.

"O" (Pun intended) don't forget O'Ryan, supposedly Marques Houston and Omarion's little brother. wink
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Reply #194 posted 12/26/07 9:14pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

bboy87 said:

well, TUG is known for lying. When B2K came out, they were marketed as somewhat of a family group. They said Omarion was Marques Houston's brother, Lil Fizz was Romeo's younger brother or cousin, J Boog was Omarion's and Marques Houston's brother and Raz B was Stokes cousin. They also had a female singer named Jhene who was marketed as Lil Fizz's cousin. The only truth to this was that JBoog was actually Houston's cousin and Raz B was Stokes' cousin.

"O" (Pun intended) don't forget O'Ryan, supposedly Marques Houston and Omarion's little brother. wink

Who was only Omarion's brother.....what a hot mess lol
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Reply #195 posted 12/26/07 9:30pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:


"O" (Pun intended) don't forget O'Ryan, supposedly Marques Houston and Omarion's little brother. wink

Who was only Omarion's brother.....what a hot mess lol


yeah.. and Raz talking about he has more allegations... so ... it's gonna get worse than what it is? ...oh man
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Reply #196 posted 12/26/07 10:38pm

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Just saw this shit on youtube.. i dont buy it for ONE MINUTE!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vTziK8smZYU
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Reply #197 posted 12/26/07 10:50pm

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isthisdadawn said:

Just saw this shit on youtube.. i dont buy it for ONE MINUTE!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vTziK8smZYU
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Huh? Is this some sick joke this guy played on us on Christmas Eve after all? He can't be serious about this apology. Something is wrong with this picture and I feel so sorry for him and the guys who went through this. After this is all played out, he seriously needs some therapy to get him together and maybe even write a tell-all book on what went down. Even though I hate B2K, I would buy that most definitely!
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Reply #198 posted 12/26/07 11:16pm

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Reply #199 posted 12/26/07 11:30pm

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Somebody's life got threatened
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Reply #200 posted 12/26/07 11:33pm

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Somebody's life got threatened


Yeah, I think so too and I think i heard Chris Stoke's voice in the background of that video isthisdadawn just posted! Damn this is too surreal for me. Someone's life is about to be in jeopardy.
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silverchild said:

Janfriend said:

Somebody's life got threatened


Yeah, I think so too and I think i heard Chris Stoke's voice in the background of that video isthisdadawn just posted! Damn this is too surreal for me. Someone's life is about to be in jeopardy.


or somebody finally got whatever monetary demands they wanted all along...

sorry folks, i know molestation is a very serious matter and i know that being gay within the african american community has major stigmas but i just can't trust ore respect anyone that does what this young man did...nor do i trust an adult who takes pictures of teens in their underwear so at this point, for me, this situation is over with...im staying neutral. and exiting this thread.
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Reply #202 posted 12/26/07 11:36pm

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I would like 2 hear Stokes explain what he meant by "I don't do THAT anymore" in court.

We never heard the beginning of that conversation
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Reply #203 posted 12/26/07 11:44pm

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sosgemini said:

silverchild said:



Yeah, I think so too and I think i heard Chris Stoke's voice in the background of that video isthisdadawn just posted! Damn this is too surreal for me. Someone's life is about to be in jeopardy.


or somebody finally got whatever monetary demands they wanted all along...

sorry folks, i know molestation is a very serious matter and i know that being gay within the african american community has major stigmas but i just can't trust ore respect anyone that does what this young man did...nor do i trust an adult who takes pictures of teens in their underwear so at this point, for me, this situation is over with...im staying neutral. and exiting this thread.


I seriously agree with that! Like I said a couple of days ago when this topic first occured: this is one sick, self-indulgent, and self-absorbing male, that caused other young males to lose their innocence and their trust in people. Raz-B might not be able to recover after this, but all we can do is pray and hope that this evil force in his life gets removed. This is a sad moment because a "family" is about to be destroyed forever...
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Reply #204 posted 12/27/07 1:01am

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So now Raz is saying the pior Videos were leaked and aren't truthful. He even issued a fake-ass apology on YouTube.

Sounds like Lawyers and Money trump Ghetto tactics. Like I said before YouTube was the wrong way to go.

I still don't think he made it all up, but clearly the money and lawyers got to him. Plus the fact the industry folks that would have been exposed would have spread way beyond the TUG Camp (JD, Diddy, R. Kelly...). I'm sure he was scared of never having a career or catching a bullet from Diddy.
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Reply #205 posted 12/27/07 2:31am

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I wondered that too. The video obviously puts it out there for all the world to see but what I'm wondering is now that it's up and may potentially get thousands, maybe millions of views, I'm wondering if Chris Stokes will sue Raz-B and Ricky Romance for this. He could use the "Defamation of Character" or Slander charge on them. I could be wrong but I could see this backfiring on Raz and Ricky. The whole thing is just plain sad. Justice needs to happen.
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The guy ADMIITED guilt. I hope someone pays him a visit.

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Reply #206 posted 12/27/07 4:08am

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Clearly raz b was telling the truth

Chris stokes went in that ass raw with no lube; hence'my ass was sore'
Christ stokes is a gay pedo and an abusive one. Then again maybe the b2gay boys like it
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Reply #207 posted 12/27/07 4:18am

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Clearly raz b was telling the truth

Chris stokes went in that ass raw with no lube; hence'my ass was sore'
Christ stokes is a gay pedo and an abusive won. Then again maybe the b2gay boys like it

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Reply #208 posted 12/27/07 4:23am

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fcukthepolice said:

Clearly raz b was telling the truth

Chris stokes went in that ass raw with no lube; hence'my ass was sore'
Christ stokes is a gay pedo and an abusive won. Then again maybe the b2gay boys like it




Fuck that... somebody got to dude... you don't make a tape talking about your Ass was sore and then come back with the tapes were leaked and the allegations are not true... Dude couldn't even look at the camera dead on .... Something is not right !!!!!
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Reply #209 posted 12/27/07 5:03am

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fcukthepolice said:

Clearly raz b was telling the truth

Chris stokes went in that ass raw with no lube; hence'my ass was sore'
Christ stokes is a gay pedo and an abusive won. Then again maybe the b2gay boys like it




Fuck that... somebody got to dude... you don't make a tape talking about your Ass was sore and then come back with the tapes were leaked and the allegations are not true... Dude couldn't even look at the camera dead on .... Something is not right !!!!!


That's exactly what i'm saying
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