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Printablebanks said: SexyBeautifulOne said:  Oh it's already on? Interesting! 
Umph...that's something his brother mentions in video 2 on youtube. Interesting!
I wanna see!  It's on you tube Ok...what the fuck??  This "reality show" only airs on youtube! At the end it says "Coming Soon" Then a "Bombshell" on Christmas Eve! 
I ain't saying it didn't happen but to use something like that to intentionally get yourself back on the map is just as tacky and trifling as can be!! | |
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paisleypark4 said:  Whoa, Chris looks like he could be Raz's brother. Didn't Raz say Chris was his cousin? I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: JackieBlue said:  Wasn't there something online saying that Omarion and Bow Wow are an item? I know I read that somewhere. An item? What do you mean? Are they in a closet relationship? I knew something was wrong with those two! Check me out and add me on:
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silverchild said: purplecam said: Wasn't there something online saying that Omarion and Bow Wow are an item? I know I read that somewhere. An item? What do you mean? Are they in a closet relationship? I knew something was wrong with those two! you know how the internet is... ever since they did that album together, they are saying these guys are gay.. | |
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banks said: silverchild said: An item? What do you mean? Are they in a closet relationship? I knew something was wrong with those two! you know how the internet is... ever since they did that album together, they are saying these guys are gay.. Well i don't know if it's true or not, but they have been awfully close to each other over the years... Check me out and add me on:
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silverchild said: purplecam said: Wasn't there something online saying that Omarion and Bow Wow are an item? I know I read that somewhere. An item? What do you mean? Are they in a closet relationship? I knew something was wrong with those two! Yes, that's what I read. I don't know if it's true but I wouldn't be shocked. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: silverchild said: An item? What do you mean? Are they in a closet relationship? I knew something was wrong with those two! Yes, that's what I read. I don't know if it's true but I wouldn't be shocked. And plus, I've noticed that everywhere Bow goes, Omari is with him. That's scary, but not shocking. Check me out and add me on:
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purplecam said: daPrettyman said: She's on vacation. She won't be back until after the 1st of the year. I thought she was coming back on Thursday? Oh well. I hate to say it because that means I probably listen to her more than I should but *sigh*(it is what it is) I also heard that Thursday's show would be live. [Edited 12/24/07 10:11am] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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silverchild said: purplecam said: Yes, that's what I read. I don't know if it's true but I wouldn't be shocked. And plus, I've noticed that everywhere Bow goes, Omari is with him. That's scary, but not shocking. That's because they are promoting their new cd | |
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JackieBlue said: purplecam said: I thought she was coming back on Thursday? Oh well. I hate to say it because that means I probably listen to her more than I should but *sigh*(it is what it is) I also heard that Thursday's show would be live. [Edited 12/24/07 10:11am] Oh don't be ashamed. Wendy is da bomb!!!!! I listen to her everyday. It is what it is! How U doin? Alright!  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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silverchild said: purplecam said: Yes, that's what I read. I don't know if it's true but I wouldn't be shocked. And plus, I've noticed that everywhere Bow goes, Omari is with him. That's scary, but not shocking. Exactly, it kinda makes sense. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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banks said: silverchild said: And plus, I've noticed that everywhere Bow goes, Omari is with him. That's scary, but not shocking. That's because they are promoting their new cd Not just now, but back in the day! But I'm not worried about them though. Right now, I'm still blown away about this Chris Stokes situation and why he molested those boys. [Edited 12/24/07 10:16am] Check me out and add me on:
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Ok...what the fuck??
This "reality show" only airs on youtube! At the end it says "Coming Soon" Then a "Bombshell" on Christmas Eve!
I ain't saying it didn't happen but to use something like that to intentionally get yourself back on the map is just as tacky and trifling as can be!! yeah.. a judge would question his motives for bringing that on youtube and 'not' going to the cops .. and although he has every right to talk about Chris.. that could backfire just slightly on him if he ever went to court .. i hope 'somebody' will bring the justice system in this situation.. | |
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Flowerz said: SexyBeautifulOne said: Ok...what the fuck??
This "reality show" only airs on youtube! At the end it says "Coming Soon" Then a "Bombshell" on Christmas Eve!
I ain't saying it didn't happen but to use something like that to intentionally get yourself back on the map is just as tacky and trifling as can be!! yeah.. a judge would question his motives for bringing that on youtube and 'not' going to the cops .. and although he has every right to talk about Chris.. that could backfire just slightly on him if he ever went to court .. i hope 'somebody' will bring the justice system in this situation.. I said something like that earlier in the thread. I hope it doesn't backfire on him cause Chris needs to go down and down hard for what he's done to those kids, now men. It's terrible. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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A couple of yrs ago, somebody inside their camp shared stories about this guy & sexual activity happening in their camp. At the time, it sounded too crazy for alot of ppl to believe as true. This story is spreading everywhere...wow!
Sweexy I have been getting PM's as to what I know about Marques Houston and Chris Stokes and TUG.I was on another board and Chris and Marques homosexual relationship came up. Thet have been involved for many years. And here is my response to those loyal fans who do not believe..... Being around TUG was like being in Sodom and Gommorah. They used the worst tactics on those kids. Brainwashing, threats, sexual and physical abuse. Hell, I was there when Taz socked the s#^& out of Kelton (from immature) just because he didn't hear the command she was giving him and he was 12 at the time. I remember Chris threatening to ruin your career if you didn't do what he wanted. All of the artists that would not put out for him or Taz they got rid of. That's why they didn't have any adult artists. I witnessed all that I needed to for several years, from the time Chris lived with Marques at his house in the Crenshaw area, to the house he shared with his momma in Northridge, to Chris' house in Sherman Oaks, to the condo he shared with Taz in Studio City, to that house he had on Colfax. I remember when he discovered Quindon from Texas. Quindon was sweet, and innocent, and he dressed like a country cabbage patch doll, with a big afro, and he loved to flirt with girls ( it was cute).
After Chris got through with him he was a slick little pervert. Real aggresive with females (and he was barely a preteen). I later found out that he acted out like that to prove to himself that he wasn't gay. It's like once the artists got turned out Chris and crew would use that as blackmail for the artist to stay "down". I know for those who don't know this seems crazy. How could they get away with turning these innocent kids out. Chris is a master manipulator, Taz is a master intimidator, and money will make N***@$ turn and look the other way. When I was around them it always seemed whenever I came around I had just missed something. S&^% was always being done on the low. I could never put my finger on it.I never wanted to think bad about them so I always thought I was trippin. Or if you spoke on something Chris would turn everything around on you and say things in such a way it would make you say how could I ever think anything wrong about him. Well fellow board members I was BAMBOOZLED!!!!! I am so f%^%#@ mad at this . I tried to put these memories and them punka$$ b&^&*&$ out of my memory. It's like the more I type the more I'm remembering (sp). I am going to tell all you TUG fans ya'll buying into a fantasy. Them ni%%@$ AIN'T RIGHT. I have been on tour with them and heard all of them talk *!@$%&**!@$%&**!@$%&**!@$%&* about the fans. Chris use to pull fat girls onstage as a joke for immature or B2K to sing to and everybody backstage would be laughing and making fun. Or when would fans ask for a pic/autograph, the guys ( IMX AND B2K with Chris) would be clowning the fans who were less desirable to them. I was there when Beyonce came to Chris and Marques house to kick it with Marques and he preferred to kick it with Chris in Chris' bedroom. And B sittin there with LeToya(DC) and Jerome (from IMX) wondering why he won't spend time with her. I remember the times Chris and his sister Smooth would get drunk on tour and start making sexual advances to the same sexes. Chris use to get immature drunk and high. Smooth use to f#$^ the female dancers. Smooth is a freak. My home boy got her on tape drunk 69'n this girl at a party. She also on tape in a threesome with a girl and R. Kelly (this was around the time he did "You Remind Me"). Chris tried to turn out Monteco (he was signed to MCA at 14 was suppose to be the next Bobby Brown) but when he couldn't get him sexually, he turned him onto drugs. That little boy turned out to be a crackhead (I know this cause I saw him in New Orleans asking for money for some crack). This was after Chris got Monteco's recording and marketing budgets used them/him up and then dumped him.Chris has a knack for signing artists to deals, and taking the budgets(monies) and spending it on himself and his family.That's why you only see a single and one video from most of his acts. I remember the group Gyrl. Taz turned out one of the girls and Marques got another one of them (the lead singer) pregnant. She had the baby by the way. Now I wrote all this to say, those people are so far from perfect that it don't make no sense. The problem is when they percieve themselves to be so perfect and the fans take it further by believing that they are. Those who are in the industry are privy to certain info. You would not believe how many celebrities are gay but they pretend not to be just to keep fans and get the fans money. You would not believe how many pervs there are. R Kelly is just the tip of the iceberg. Why ya'll think he hasn't gone to trial yet. I could tell ya'll some s### for real. You would not believe how many schizos are in the industry. Houston is just the tip of the iceberg. Yall would not believe how many celebrities are out there with drug and sex sicknesses. And I am not even going start on how many of them have diseases. The industry is a big a$$ disease and all them miserable muthaf#@$&$ in the industry thrive off of giving all the new people that come in the industry the same sick s&*% that they have.Sorry it was so long. Anybody wanna hit me on my PM holla. AGem4Rome May 25 2005, 12:04 PM PLEASE NOTE: I DID NOT WRITE THIS. SORRY TO THOSE OF YOU WHO GOT CONFUSED AND THOUGHT I WAS SAYING THIS, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WERE WRITTEN BY PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THEY HAVE WORKED FOR T.U.G. IN THE PAST. This is the second post about the situation over there. For Starters.....I just found out about a tattoo that all the members of B2K and IMX and CS have on their arms of a global with a bunch of Chinese letters...well apparently the writings translates into each others names.....yeah....you heard right! They have each others names tattoed on each other.....
All you die hard IMX / B2K fans....ever notice that tattoo on any of them.....ever wonder what it meant.....now ya know! Let's just start by stating that Chris "Pedophile" Stokes did not start, discover or develop B2K. They didn't meet in a mall like they said. That was Chris' idea so that the REAL story wouldn't come out. Everyone knows how B2K really got started and who put them together because their original managers were already shopping them around to labels. Chris pulled some shady *!@$%&**!@$%&**!@$%&**!@$%&*, went behind the original managers backs and talked their parents into having the boys sign a deal with him ONLY. The parents were looking at the house they were living in (all bought with Marques' Sister Sister dough) and thought that Chris was big time but he wasn't. Chris had already been blackballed in the industry. If you speak to anybody who works in the industry, that isn't affiliated with the TUG cult, they'll tell you that NOBODY like Chris. Some of the parents had their doubts. Jarell's father wasn't cool about it until Chris made a deal with him to get points off the album (that was done on the low of course) Chris has been living off of Marques forever.(I'll get to him and Marques later!) The original management team knew about Chris, his shady past and business practices. They wasn't trying to get caught up in the BS that's going on right now, because they knew it would happen eventually, so they let the boys go. Omari's mom and her boyfriend at the time were slightly skeptical, especially the boyfriend, but his mom is really young. She had him when she was like 14 or 15 so all she could see was the dough her son would be making for her. As soon as her boyfriend started making waves and trying to get into Omari's business, Chris made sure he was x-ed out of the picture. Especially since Omari's mom has a thing for Chris. So that's basically how Chris got his hands on B2K. Now let me go back a little and tell you something about Chris. HE'S CRAZY. Not in a Suge Knight type-of-way, although Suge did slap his ass up in Chris' own office (how bout dat!), but in a I-have-issues-I-need-to-work-out-in-therapy sort of way. He is a David Koresh type of character. Before B2K even came along, he was this way. He, his business partner Taz and IMX (Marques, Kelton and Jerome) have lived together for years before B2K. He has a svengali type of personality. He has to approve any girl they want to talk to, where they go, what and when they eat! ARE U TRIPPIN? SOUNDS CRAZY, RIGHT? Well I BS you not, it's true. One time I remember one of the boys was out and about and decided he would get him something to snack on because he was hungry and Chris was cooking that day but the food wasn't ready yet. When Chris found out, he damn near had a heart attack and went off on him. They used to sneak around to get food because Chris believes that everyone should eat together and if you go get something to eat and don't bring nothing back for everybody, that's your a**. I know everyone has heard the stories about Chris being a pedophile. That's true as well. Somebody needs to call the DA that's on Michael Jackson's back because he could get a conviction on this case. Okay, I'll take my time with this one. Remember, Quindon? Everyone may be wondering where he is. Well he lives in Texas now and he is a born-again Christian. When he joined his church, he stood up to testify. He told his entire congregation that while his was a young boy being managed by Chris Stokes, Chris used to molest him. He spoke of a "secret group" of them (Marques Houston included) that used to jack each other off and perform oral sex on each other but no penetration. I know yall are reading this like "this person is trippin" but I have no reason to lie. I have seen this drama unfold for years. I was never told this story. I watched it play out from the time IMX was Immature (before LDB came along) until this very second. CHris had even been to court before behind a similar situation. Do your research if you want to know about that one. I mentioned Marques Houston earlier. Well it's sad to say (because he is a cutie) but Chris turned him out years ago. And that BS you saw on Cribs with "Marques' red and black room"..plllleeeease! Marques and Chris has lived and slept in the same room same bed way before they moved out into the houses in Diamond Bar (which by the way were purchased with B2K's money although all of the houses are in Marques' name). Chris and Marques argue and interact like husband and wife. I'll let you guess which one is wifey! I know I said that there will be no opinion but let me just offer one...I think Kelton (LDB of IMX) has been a part of that "secret group" mix too (but that's just me). I don't think Jerome (Romeo of IMX) has but if his brothers knew this stuff was going on, they'd drag his a** away from there. All this sudden success stuff you see going on with TUG and Chris Stokes are ALL THANKS TO JARELL, DREUX, MARIO and OMARI. Chris has been in the industry and nobody has wanted to mess with him but the industry already wanted B2K before Chris pulled a shady and stole them. So in order to get to B2K, they had to deal with Chris. There is over 10 years of history I could give you about that camp but there is not enough time in the world. I just wanted to say all this because B2K, all four members, are another set of victims at the hand of a sick man, Chris Stokes. The other three got smart (I am so proud of them) and Omari is being brainwashed. He's a good kid but that's what he is when it's all said and done...a kid. His momma is so money-hungry-I'll-sell-my-kids-out-for-money, including her other son, that Omari doesn't have a voice of reason in his corner. The person who should be his voice of reason is also brainwashed. Good luck Omari. To all the B2K fans, I know yall are hurt. This is the way I felt when Jodeci broke up. But everything is going to come out. Just continue to support the boys and pray for them, especially Omari, he needs it. love is a fate resigned memories mar my mind love it is a fate resigned Over futile odds and laughed at by the Gods and now the final frame Love is a losing game |
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| and i didnt wanna bring it up, but the article said it for me.. that Beyonce dated MH .. i started a thread awhile back 'who's dating who' .. and site said B and MH were an item once .. | |
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I remember reading the story Scorpion posted above back then and it's just as disturbing now if not moreso than before. Chris Stokes is a creep. [Edited 12/24/07 11:27am] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Flowerz said: and i didnt wanna bring it up, but the article said it for me.. that Beyonce dated MH .. i started a thread awhile back 'who's dating who' .. and site said B and MH were an item once .. That's common knowledge since Marques is a D Lister he brings it up quite frequently to get attention... | |
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sosgemini said: Rhondab said: Maybe its not about getting criminal/civil justice but just getting the info out in the court of public opinion. 
Molestation is so secretive in the black community especially and with homosexuality being another secretive topic, Raz and his brother are really putting themselves out there to blast Chris. It will be interesting to see what happens. nahh..i'll pass. ...the courts are the proper channel to make this a public issue...the precedence something like this creates is scary...i don't think any of us would like to be accused of something like this...the courts provide an impartial review of evidence...i would never...ever...want any of us to be wrongly accused of such things. i would agree with that to a degree...but chris stokes does actually admit to his wrongdoings in the phone conversation...and now i'm wondring if he would have gotten away with his "secret" intact had he been confronted in court first, stayed away from the stand, hired a saavy and heavy handed lawyer to pick the victims to pieces, ect. | |
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The rumors have been known for years now.
I was a fan of Immature back in the day and I remember vividly how they were promoted even when they were 11 and 12 for the Playtyme Is Over album. It was the same way B2K was promoted, only B2K was promoted more aggressively. It was really suspect how they were always in their videos and photoshoots looked like soft core porn stars....and they were ONLY 14 and 15 years old! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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I met Omarion on two seperate occasions after he left B2K and he was always polite and nice. Most stars act nasty and are probably jaded. I do however believe that this probably is true because the facts of the whole situation make it seem like it happened. There seems to still be a lot that is not being said. Example: Like a year after the B2K break-up Raz-b was arrested behind some unrelated BS and it was Chis Stokes who bailed him out of Jail. If things were so bad in B2K why accept help from Chris Stokes? I do believe that Chris was supporting him and his brother and I'm sure that the older Brother knew what was going on but turned a blind eye. Money and Family matters are a B*tch.
Funny how R. Kelly produced Bump. Bump, Bump but since P. Diddy was on the track (for no reason) people think P. diddy produced it. I wonder if the screwed for tracks from R. Kelly? Ray J was all up in this camp and was also produced by R. Kelly. Raz needs to just write a book and put it all out there. [ZUNECARD]MikeChristopher[/ZUNECARD] | |
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WillieDynamite said: Funny how R. Kelly produced Bump. Bump, Bump but since P. Diddy was on the track (for no reason) people think P. diddy produced it. I wonder if the screwed for tracks from R. Kelly? Ray J was all up in this camp and was also produced by R. Kelly. Raz needs to just write a book and put it all out there. Interesting you should ask... Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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WillieDynamite said: I met Omarion on two seperate occasions after he left B2K and he was always polite and nice. Most stars act nasty and are probably jaded. I do however believe that this probably is true because the facts of the whole situation make it seem like it happened. There seems to still be a lot that is not being said. Example: Like a year after the B2K break-up Raz-b was arrested behind some unrelated BS and it was Chis Stokes who bailed him out of Jail. If things were so bad in B2K why accept help from Chris Stokes? I do believe that Chris was supporting him and his brother and I'm sure that the older Brother knew what was going on but turned a blind eye. Money and Family matters are a B*tch.
Funny how R. Kelly produced Bump. Bump, Bump but since P. Diddy was on the track (for no reason) people think P. diddy produced it. I wonder if the screwed for tracks from R. Kelly? Ray J was all up in this camp and was also produced by R. Kelly. Raz needs to just write a book and put it all out there. Raz did say he was writing a book about a year or 2 ago. I remember back when they broke up and Demario, Jarell, and Dreux went on BET and talked about it. Their story makes sense now..... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Fuck. Again?
Riddle me this, Batman: How come a bigger deal isn't being made about all these boygroups who, as it turns out, were being abused by their handlers? I mean, that article on Lou Pearlman showed up in Vogue a few months ago, and I haven't heard a thing about any of that since. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Here are the trailers for Raz B, Lil Fizz, and J Boog's proposed reality show:
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Wdf,
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silverchild said: purplecam said: Wasn't there something online saying that Omarion and Bow Wow are an item? I know I read that somewhere. An item? What do you mean? Are they in a closet relationship? I knew something was wrong with those two! WTF? do you mean by wrong? The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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Jesus be an ABC afternoon special
I had go back to Tivo and dig up that MTV Cribs marathon with B2K. Wow they had two houses and a bunch of cars at that time. Both houses were uber tacky and one house was Chris Stokes', which he happened to share with Raz, and the other scrubs had to share the other house. In pimp terms was Raz the Bottom B*tch? (you know, the main person?) In Star Trek terms was Raz the #1? (Engage!) This whole mess smells fishy. If these things were so bad why wait so long to expose it? When they broke up Raz was the most vocal one talking about MONEY. I see a LIFETIME movie in Raz's future, kinda like Fantasia's. (Maybe on LOGO network) Can someone remind me what purpose did Raz, J-Boog or Tito serve in this group other than background dancers? I'm guessing that they were along for the ride like the other members of Destiny's Child. Where are the other member's at? Do they have an opinion on this? Chris will probably bankroll whatever album (or venture) Raz and Ricky (Romance?, Really? My People...) are trying to get done just to make it go away. Remember when Kid's groups were just that and not Sexual? The Boys, Brandy, Shanice, Tracie Spencer, ABC. Fun Times. [ZUNECARD]MikeChristopher[/ZUNECARD] | |
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