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Reply #60 posted 12/24/07 8:55am

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paisleypark4 said:

Till The Monin is my CUT



"Morning.. can you touch me.. can u love- TIL THA' Morning!!

Make me lose my mind.. lose track of time.. then i gotta work..."

At least that's what I think it's sayin'! Love it though; it has that "Heartbeat" vibe- but I know it's not a sample of the song.
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Reply #61 posted 12/24/07 9:21am

Graycap23

sosgemini said:

Graycap23 said:


In Meshell's case, it is stated on the cover. U know BEFORE u buy.


it really said you could by the music somewhere else with bonus tunes? didn't notice when i bought mine.

Meshell's cd is labelled "Limited Edition with BONUS track "Soul Spaceship"
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Reply #62 posted 12/24/07 9:22am

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Graycap23 said:

sosgemini said:



it really said you could by the music somewhere else with bonus tunes? didn't notice when i bought mine.

Meshell's cd is labelled "Limited Edition with BONUS track "Soul Spaceship"


im confused...how does that tell you that itunes has more songs on it?
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Reply #63 posted 12/24/07 9:24am

Graycap23

sosgemini said:

Graycap23 said:


Meshell's cd is labelled "Limited Edition with BONUS track "Soul Spaceship"


im confused...how does that tell you that itunes has more songs on it?

I'm only speaking about the cd. I can't speak 2 itunes since I don't purchase music that way.
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Reply #64 posted 12/24/07 9:43am

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Graycap23 said:

sosgemini said:



im confused...how does that tell you that itunes has more songs on it?

I'm only speaking about the cd. I can't speak 2 itunes since I don't purchase music that way.


Well, Itunes has an extra song (or two) more then the one bonus track found at retail channels.
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Reply #65 posted 12/24/07 10:04am

Graycap23

sosgemini said:

Graycap23 said:


I'm only speaking about the cd. I can't speak 2 itunes since I don't purchase music that way.


Well, Itunes has an extra song (or two) more then the one bonus track found at retail channels.

The "regular" cd has a different track. Do u know the ame of the itune bonus track?
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Reply #66 posted 12/24/07 1:35pm

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Graycap23 said:

sosgemini said:



Well, Itunes has an extra song (or two) more then the one bonus track found at retail channels.

The "regular" cd has a different track. Do u know the ame of the itune bonus track?

iTunes comes with two bonus tracks: "Soul Spaceship" and "A Different Girl (Every Night)."
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Reply #67 posted 12/24/07 1:53pm

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DirtyChris said:

also wanted to mention Pharrell straight jacked Taana Garner's "Heartbeat" for the rhythm of "Til The Morning"... I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt it.



You're probably right.

Pharrell's got one track(not song) in him that he's been adding whistles to and selling over and over. Everything else is someone's hit watered down.
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Reply #68 posted 12/24/07 2:18pm

Graycap23

AlexdeParis said:

Graycap23 said:


The "regular" cd has a different track. Do u know the ame of the itune bonus track?

iTunes comes with two bonus tracks: "Soul Spaceship" and "A Different Girl (Every Night)."

Cool. The regular version comes with "Different Girl"
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Reply #69 posted 12/24/07 2:22pm

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Graycap23 said:

AlexdeParis said:


iTunes comes with two bonus tracks: "Soul Spaceship" and "A Different Girl (Every Night)."

Cool. The regular version comes with "Different Girl"


confuse
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Reply #70 posted 12/24/07 2:31pm

Graycap23

sosgemini said:

Graycap23 said:


Cool. The regular version comes with "Different Girl"


confuse

There are 2 cd's:
Regular version that contains: bonus track "Different Girl"
The Limited edition contains bonus track "Soul Spaceship"
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Reply #71 posted 12/24/07 3:02pm

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Graycap23 said:

sosgemini said:



confuse

There are 2 cd's:
Regular version that contains: bonus track "Different Girl"
The Limited edition contains bonus track "Soul Spaceship"


plus Different Girl...

and

you said:

U know BEFORE u buy.


i guess i am confused about what's the difference between what mary did and what meshell. tis all.
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Reply #72 posted 12/24/07 4:27pm

Dance

I don't get the Meshell fans or their obsession. No offense to anyone.

I mean I totally understand if you dig her because you've been following her from the jump and you want to bang her. I get that and can see how you'd overlook certain things.

If you don't fall into that category, what is so amazing about this chick's work? It sounds like every generic "modern jazz" instrumental I've ever heard with her "I got the flu" vocals over it.

I mean I honestly tried to give her a chance because of all her stans who claim she's slept on and she's not embraced in a major way because of her hair or whatever marketing garbage it is they repeat. Meanwhile I always hear about this chick when her albums drop and in the early to mid 90s she got a little shine on her own and from established artists not to mention the association with Whoredonna. confused Is Whoredonna the reason people cosign this girl?
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Reply #73 posted 12/24/07 5:19pm

Harlepolis

Dance said:

not to mention the ass confused ociation with Whoredonna. Is Whoredonna the reason people cosign this girl?


Can you explain that? hmmm

What does Madonna have to do with Meshell?
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Reply #74 posted 12/24/07 5:27pm

Dance

Harlepolis said:

Dance said:

not to mention the ass confused ociation with Whoredonna. Is Whoredonna the reason people cosign this girl?


Can you explain that? hmmm

What does Madonna have to do with Meshell?


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Reply #75 posted 12/25/07 6:00pm

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Reply #76 posted 12/25/07 7:42pm

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I don't get the Meshell fans or their obsession. No offense to anyone.

I mean I totally understand if you dig her because you've been following her from the jump and you want to bang her. I get that and can see how you'd overlook certain things.

If you don't fall into that category, what is so amazing about this chick's work? It sounds like every generic "modern jazz" instrumental I've ever heard with her "I got the flu" vocals over it.

I mean I honestly tried to give her a chance because of all her stans who claim she's slept on and she's not embraced in a major way because of her hair or whatever marketing garbage it is they repeat. Meanwhile I always hear about this chick when her albums drop and in the early to mid 90s she got a little shine on her own and from established artists not to mention the association with Whoredonna. confused Is Whoredonna the reason people cosign this girl?
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Reply #77 posted 12/25/07 8:38pm

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SexyBeautifulOne said:



whofarted



lol

Seriously, what moves you about her stuff? confused
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Reply #78 posted 12/25/07 8:40pm

Timmy84

Weren't we talking about Mary J. Blige two pages ago? hmm
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Reply #79 posted 12/25/07 8:49pm

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Timmy84 said:

Weren't we talking about Mary J. Blige two pages ago? hmm


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Welcome to the Org, Timothy lol
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Reply #80 posted 12/25/07 8:54pm

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Timmy84 said:

Weren't we talking about Mary J. Blige two pages ago? hmm


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Reply #81 posted 12/25/07 9:59pm

Timmy84

Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:

Weren't we talking about Mary J. Blige two pages ago? hmm


falloff

Welcome to the Org, Timothy lol


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Reply #82 posted 12/26/07 2:59am

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Dance said:

Harlepolis said:



Can you explain that? hmmm

What does Madonna have to do with Meshell?


Maverick

And that's pretty much where it ends. There are those Madonna fans out there who probably support anything that was released on Maverick in the same way that there are Prince fans that supported anything that was put out on Paisley Park, whether it had any Prince input or not...

One of the reasons Meshell signed with Maverick instead of Paisley Park is because of the same reason Prince signed with WB back in the day. She wanted complete control over her albums. And for the most part during her ten year stay with the label, that was the case. There were no tracks that were produced by Madonna. Madonna appeared on zero of Meshell's albums/songs. Meshell is no longer on Maverick btw.

And to answer your other question, the reason admirers are still hanging with Meshell after 15 years is because of the run she's had artistically. Look at Prince from his debut album through Lovesexy and how prolific he was. The risks he took artistically and the critical acclaim he received for his work during that time period.

Then compare it to Meshell's body of work from 1993 through today and you'll understand why anyone with an ear, a heart and a brain, support this woman and encourage her to grow.

It's cool that you don't get her music and there are folks out there who won't give her a chance because of her sexual orientation, her image, or that she doesn't give a fuck about being number one at the bank, etc. She treats her supporters with respect and unlike some artists actually encourages them to record her shows and put them up on sites like youtube. Unlike some artists, it's about the music for her and nothing else.

You've obviously never seen her live, or you'd get it. And I'm not referring to some grainy youtube video shot by someone in the dark at one of her shows. I'm talking about going and seeing a band that has 2 bassists, 2 guitarists and a drummer that tops any drummer you have ever seen live (unless perhaps you were lucky enough to see the original line-up of Led Zeppelin.) She plays none of her old material at shows (unlike some artists who rely heavily on playing their old material). In fact, during her most recent tour, she played mostly new material that wasn't even recorded yet.

So yeah, you could give her grief about things that have nothing to do with the music, or you could come with an open mind and be blown away by the gifts this woman has to offer. There are few artists out there today that are willing to constantly change and grow the way Meshell does, and challenge her audience while doing so. It was why so many supporters of Meshell became admirers of Prince in the 80s. Thankfully there was someone like Meshell to take that "artistic/creative/risk-taking" torch when Prince dropped it.
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Reply #83 posted 12/26/07 4:48am

Graycap23

suomynona said:



Then compare it to Meshell's body of work from 1993 through today and you'll understand why anyone with an ear, a heart and a brain, support this woman and encourage her to grow.




Well damn.....I think u summed it up perfectly. Vry nice.
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Reply #84 posted 12/26/07 4:59am

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Purchased it today.. Just got through listening to it.

First listen I'm only feeling 8 of the 16 tracks

Work That
Just Fine
Til The Morning
Roses
Work In Progress(Growing Pains)
Talk To Me
Smoke
Come To Me(Peace)

Come To Me(Peace) is like nothing she's ever did before, It reminds of an old 80's track that's escapimg me right now (I'm sure it was a white band) that this song reminds of.. (someone please tell me what song this sounds like)

Tell me how you guys feel about this CD..

PS.. Inotice that Mary used a lot of the same producers named in contributing to Janet's upcoming CD

The Dream,Ne-Yo,Stargate,Tricky Stewart... I hope they did a better job for Janet



not feelin this one sad I was a bit let down.
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Reply #85 posted 12/26/07 7:19am

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musicman said:

paisleypark4 said:

Till The Monin is my CUT



"Morning.. can you touch me.. can u love- TIL THA' Morning!!

Make me lose my mind.. lose track of time.. then i gotta work..."

At least that's what I think it's sayin'! Love it though; it has that "Heartbeat" vibe- but I know it's not a sample of the song.



Yes....Thats ma cut..it took me about a good 3 times 2 really feel it cuz the snares were kinda thin, but I love the lyrical arrangement!!!! So damn 80's its rediculous
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Reply #86 posted 12/26/07 8:51am

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I just gave it a good listen and I like it. I'll have to give a few more spins to form a better opinion.
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Reply #87 posted 12/26/07 10:27am

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This is my third listen and I have to say that I like the album really much. Even though I think it's far from her best work, it is another consistent record in her camp. "Till The Morning" has gotten lots of play on Zune and CD player. I love that freakin' song and the Neptunes production has that fresh 80's R&B-chic to it that I like.
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Reply #88 posted 12/26/07 10:57am

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Mary J. Blige’s Geffen release, Growing Pains, will debut at #2, with an impressive 640k in sales.

I guess this whole releasing her albums a week for Xmas is paying off, I bet she will release her next CD in December 2010
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Reply #89 posted 12/26/07 11:01am

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banks said:

Mary J. Blige’s Geffen release, Growing Pains, will debut at #2, with an impressive 640k in sales.

I guess this whole releasing her albums a week for Xmas is paying off, I bet she will release her next CD in December 2010


That's a valid point because that's part of the reason why her last album, The Breakthrough was a runaway success... Even though I still feel that her latest album won't match the commercial sales of her last release, I think she has a hit on her hands with this album. Who knows?
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