midnightmover said:[quote
I don't think most MJ fans are liars. I think they're confused. Very confused.[/quote]
That's like saying all blacks are criminals and all whites want to put them in jail. You just can't put people in a group like that. There are MJ fans that think he's wacky. There are MJ fans that think he's God. There are MJ fans that think he's a good person with some personal demons. I am the latter. But all MJ fans are different. Just as all people are different. It's ridiculous how MJ fans get put into a group and stereotyped to the point that most people would find disgusting if it was any other group of people (whites, blacks, gays, the elderly). So just think next time before you go shooting your mouth off and making yourself look like a narrow minded idiot.

shorttrini said:

It's their "loyalty" that leads to their confusion. They have so much invested in him that they willingly distort reality to preserve the positive image of their idol. The key thing is though, they do this WITHOUT REALISING IT. These people have ZERO self awareness. For instance embattledwarrior comes in here with an alibi for Mike and they all accept it WITHOUT ASKING ANY QUESTIONS. Apparently it's common knowledge that Mike has UV treatments twice a month and yet NO-ONE here has heard it before. Yet with zero evidence, they accept it. When you look at the list of established facts they are happy to ignore, and then look at the bullshit they uncritically swallow, you see just what effect their "loyalty" has had on their common sense.

at every mention of post-its
to see him this way

First thing he reminded me of was Katherine Hepburn in her later days and a cross between a starlet who became that eccentric reclusive star that everyone use to love but now just whispers about when they see her about town.

midnightmover said:

Hmmm, that's a very interesting point you make there.

The NY Post had a big cover story on him today and here's the link:

http://www.nypost.com/sev...273065.htm

There was a line about him going from a good looking African American to an aged white woman. That had me laughing my ass off on the subway this morning cause that's the truth. Brother needs help like NOW.

Let's see annoy fans who have no lives or screw underage boys.

Which is worst?
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fcukthepolice said:

purplecam said:

Even though I know he’s the same person inside, I don’t feel I can relate to him the same way. It’s like someone in your family who took a left turn somewhere. You may still love them but can never quite look at them the same. Through the years the music was pretty much safe but listening to Invincible is the first time I started to feel the disconnect in the music.

Here we go again For the millionth time,Michael Jackson is in the news for something that has absolutely nothing to do with his music.Surely,even he must be tired of going down this same,old road?! Why does he keep allowing his odd behavior/appearance to get all the attention? This shit is getting TIRED!!

Just for once,wouldn't it nice to see him in news for making a good song for a change? Wouldn't it be nice to see him getting attention for a kickass acoustic performance? Wouldn't it be nice to see him in the media getting rave reviews for an outstanding album?? Michael seriously needs to sit down and re-evaluate his career strategy.Is this really the way that he wants to go out....constantly getting attention for senseless bullshit like this? I refuse to believe that this is how he wants to be remembered.

MJ fans...y'all need to do an intervention or something!

JackieBlue said:

All of you need to get off your high horse.

JackieBlue said:

We are in the same boat. The disconnect started when he started calling himself the "King of Pop". That rubbed me the wrong way, kinda like he was better than everyone else. Then with the child molestation stuff, that made me look at him real strange but then came HIStory. With the exception of a few songs, I knew it was the end. Forget about Invincible, what garbage, minus 4 songs.

For as much as I look at MJ today in disgust, I respect the music in the past and I even buy what he releases hoping it will hit me again but I think it won't him me like Bad hit me or Thriller or even Dangerous. It's a shame.
[Edited 12/18/07 7:03am]

What's wrong with people here?

Let the man be. As long as he doesn't complain about the media and their coverage I guess he is fine with it and so should we.

We know the man has vitiligo since papers proved that during the trial two years ago and one therapy option for this condition is ultraviolet light. Why not assume the obvious? This wacko shit is so annoying...

BlueNote

Rodya24 said:

It's just an opinion. Is it so shocking that someone feels they can no longer separate Michael's image from his music? Doesn't shock me in the slightest, and it says nothing bad about JackieBlue's personality, either.

BlueNote said:

Hear, hear.

It's always the same people (ex-fans most of them) in these threads, repeating their bullshit. Almost as tiresome as MJ and his attention-loving ways.

SoulAlive said:

If he was really tired of all of that kind of attention, he wouldn't go out into the street looking like a damn fool. He does this to himself. And for all the defending the MJ fans try to do, this is nothing that can be defended. The man is a god damn freak and that's all there is to the story.

And for all the house hunting that MJ is doing, there is a place here in NYC that would be perfect for him and the fans would have no problem being able to see him. In fact, it'll be affordable for everyone. You know where that is? Get ready, it's a place in the Bronx and it's called:






THE BRONX ZOO

It's very easy to get to by car, bus and subway and he'll be next to all his friends. That's a perfect fit for Michael Jackson. In fact, he can take Madonna with him, but that's for a different thread.
[Edited 12/18/07 7:10am]

Rodya24 said:

What's the problem, stay calm rodya24? Just an opinion!

BlueNote

Rodya24 said:

High horse? Please.

BlueNote said:

Oh, I have no problem with you. In fact, I agree 100% with what you wrote in your previous post. I was spouting my frustration at some of the people in this thread, not you.

I believe the boy just wanna sell more records of "Thriller" and have people talking about him all over the news again about his possible "deconstruction" of his face. He lives for the attention now, I believe. Plus, we all know the man has been damaged but to him, having stickers or whatever it is on his face is probably "normal" to him. I sure as hell wouldn't do it though.
[Edited 12/18/07 7:16am]

purplecam said:

So when is the burning going to occur?

He is so Desperate to get on TV again!

NONE of his "Jacko Stunts" have made it to the Entertainment Shows for almost a year now. Brintey Spears is younger, so she has taken over his invention of Cheap - Quick Fix - Lazy/Lets get some Press Media tricks.

Pretty sad.

If this doesnt make it on tv then he IS totally 100% over! We all know he isnt ever going to get any press for anything in the music field. Because he is lazy and the little boys sucked the talent out of him. His only chance is leaving the house looking like this!

1) Surgical Masks dont get him in the newspaper in 2007 like it used to in 1987.

2) He even had his kids unmasked. Just desperate for the Entertainment Media to comment.

I bet he googled his name in the news section & taped E! - Showbiz Today - ET hoping they even mentioned him.


I think this idea to get press came from this article on December 11th, 2007:

http://www.dailymail.co.u...ge_id=1773

"Sitting with a group of friends at Aldo's Italian restaurant in Wyckoff, New Jersey, the small figure in their midst was defending his reputation as a global superstar: "I know it looks like I'm not popular anymore but, trust me, if I wanted attention, I could get it.

"One call and there'd be paparazzi all over the place."

Everyone at the table was silent, shifting awkwardly in their seats.

"I'll make the call now," the man continued, gesturing for a security guard to hand him a phone. "Watch what happens."

It was the final straw. "No. Don't do it, Mike," pleaded one of the diners. "We believe you."

Smiling, the man handed the phone back to his functionary. "OK, but if you ever want me to prove it, just say the word."

It was, to say the least, a curious display from a man who was once the greatest pop talent in the world.

For that anonymous figure in a suburban New Jersey eatery was Michael Jackson..."
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ONE WEEK LATER He Leaves the House Looking Like this!
[Edited 12/18/07 7:21am]

ElectricBlue said:

I think out of all the ex-fans, you are most hilarious one. When are the comparisons with Prince going to start in this thread? Are you going to post obscure pictures of Prince with little pieces of paper stuck to his face in support of your argument that MJ is copying him? Come on. I am waiting.

Timmy84 said:

If that's the case then what a way and a fucked up way at that, to try and sell records.

Rodya24 said:

Burning of what, MJ?

SoulAlive said:

I'm surprised he hangs out in Las Vegas so much. I'd think he find a farm in Iowa or Montana and really enjoy being out of the public life surrounded by nature and enjoying his kids.

A few people have called him an attention whore but I never thought of him like that but now I’m thinking maybe that is a large part of what’s behind some of his ventures.

purplecam said:

True. But see this is Mike's infamous way of "grabbing the spotlight" so to speak. True, he was probably doing that for his kids but in another way, this was his strategy for the last four albums and now he's trying to do that with "Thriller", he already grabbed attention by having will.i.am, Akon, Fergie and Kanye on it and now he finds the perfect chance to say "oh I can still shock". I'm a fan of his music, really. But I don't live his crazy lifestyle so I can't judge too harshly. Because if I walked around with post-its or whatever he had on his face, they call me lazy. With Michael, they say ANYTHING BUT THAT.

purplecam said:

Nah, MJ fans have believed that if "the tabloids get too heavy on Mike", then they should "burn 'em".
[Edited 12/18/07 7:32am]

Timmy84 said:

Ummm... No that was not what I was referring to.

Timmy84 said:

I'll admit, that's funny.

Rodya24 said:

Well that's how I remember what happen when shit get out of hand in Michael's corner, lol. They used to say that all the time. I think it was around 2002, early 2003.

Timmy84 said:

First, that is not what I was referring to. Second, I was not even aware of some fans saying that in 2002 or 2003 because I was not a fan then.