EmbattledWarrior said:

How on earth would something that's protected under privacy laws be common knowledge?

RipHer2Shreds said:

I don't know. With MJ, so much seems to be "common knowledge."

does he really have to tape his lips and nose to keep them attched? has it really gotten that bad?

RipHer2Shreds said:

I'm saying! Because that's really the first time I've heard this. When no one explains nothing of what's going on when someone decides to do something like this, you're left to your own conclusions. I really don't know what to believe. I wanna believe that he's just shopping but it doesn't explain the band-aids or stickers or whatever the hell either he or Blanket put on his face. You ask Raymone about it, she'll tell you to shut the fuck up.

Rodya24 said:

That's because, I believe, Mike opens himself to this nonsense. Half of it ain't his fault but one half of me is thinking Michael has this "I don't give a fuck about my appearance" attitude. I'm surprised he didn't have a mask on. It's a 50/50 thing with Michael Jackson in the terms of how he's looking. Hate to say it like that.

Timmy84 said:

BWAHA!

Timmy84 said:

But what EmbattledWarrior wrote makes sense.

In the end, however, none of us are entitled to know what is on his face. The fact that all of us in this thread (including me) are commenting on the face of a person whom none of are friends or close relatives with is sad in itself.

Timmy84 said:

I know Timmy. Well, Mike´s eccentric, there´s no doubt about it, but when it comes to stuff like this, I refuse to think it´s for fun and there´s no reason to it. The vitiligo treatment seems more believable to me than thiking it is a result of any "new" cosmetic procedure, cause otherwise I´d have to believe that he does that on weekly basis, which is crazy even for Mike.
Of course he has to expect those silly reactions whenever he doesn´t explain, but I don´t think people would listen if he did explain, anyway. On the other hand, he has the right for that tiny bit of privacy left. And I don´t think we would wanna listen to him telling us about that in detail.

Rodya24 said:

It is sad but again that's life in the new millennium. No one's safe for shit anymore but were celebrities safe anyway? They ain't got a shield to cover them like they did in the '30s, '40s, '50s and '60s. Privacy for celebrities started to break by the '70s and by the '80s, everybody big was in a tabloid and Mike's in his third decade as a tabloid fixture unfortunately. What else can I say?

Timmy84 said:

Yes, the rules have changed for celebrities. But human beings have not changed. We can still attempt to be respectful of others' feelings and space.

dag said:

But ain't that like a double-edge sword? I mean...

Rodya24 said:

Well with gossip websites...and Perez Hilton, it's becoming harder to actually even do that! You know?

I mean I love MJ. And it's an interesting look. But why go out?

RipHer2Shreds said:

Um cause its common knowledge that MJ has vitiligo, and all vitiligo patients undergo UV treatments
its been well publicized in his interviews and depositions
The fact that mj married the nurse who was one of the doctors aids that treated him on one his routinely visits. (Debbie)
for fuck sakes how could you not know?

Rodya24 said:

Why is it sad? MJ is a celebrity therefore like it or not people are going to talk about him...And especially when you are as eccentric as Michael is, there is NO WAY you can expect people not to speculate.

I'm not saying that people have a right to know these things because whatever is going on with him is his business, but it would help if he would give actual sensible explainations for the changes in his face (instead of coming up with ridiculous reasons like in the Bashir Documentary when he claimed that the changes in his appeareance was due to the work of "God" ). Then again, most people think Michael is a pathological liar so it probably wouldn't do any good if he said anything.

He may just have a disease, but it's rather suspicious that the only member of the family to have it is also the one who's constantly getting other procedures, as well, and seems to be the most unstable.

If he had a disease and that was it, people wouldn't be so mean. I don't see people making fun of Michael J Fox.

Cinnamon234 said:

I gotta agree with this...
He should be use to it by now and probably is
MJ is an attention whore,

Cinnamon234 said:

There is no point in him addressing any of this anymore. It is too late. People are going to believe what they are going to believe. Did you read what someone wrote on the first page of this thread? He wrote that MJ had it the "best," implying that he, as a child, had an upper hand over his father. I hope he was kidding when he wrote that.

NDRU said:

Have you ever thought that perhaps the disease contributed to his instability? Hell, I would be disturbed if I started to lose pigmentation.

GangstaFam said:

I would say he was in a rush but apparently they stayed at this book store until 1 in the morning.

Timmy84 said:

yeah.
The funny thing is that most people doesn´t even believe he has a vitiligo. They think he made himself white, he wanted to be white, so how could they believe that is due to vitiligo? I mean, why bother explaining?
On the other hand, it´s true, he could have stayed at home these days, but again can I judge him when I don´t know why he "had" to do it even looking like this and what were the circumstances of his schedule?

NDRU said:

But see that's the thing. Michael never says anything. Michael J. Fox HAD to make it known he had Parkinson's because people were actually joking that he was on crack! With Jackson, it's whatever.

Timmy84 said:

the fucker just likes the attention,
everyboy knows he sticks out like a sore thumb anywhere he goes,
shy go out?
you cant send an aid to the damn book store,
or just surf amazon for the book anyway,
dude likes the attention

EmbattledWarrior said:

It's amazing. He has changed so much in appearance in the last 25 years, but still most people can recognize him

Rodya24 said:

I don't know if vitiligo can make you unstable because I've heard people who have it actually don't do the things Michael do nor do they step out in the public like that. It's hard to defend a man's space when one, he's a celebrity, two, he's been infamously alleged to be the king of "nip and tuck", and three, he's afraid or too grossed out to tell people just what the fuck is going on, lol. People here say Michael says this and they STILL don't believe him, but I don't think he says "enough". I mean you can argue that he has said anything but even then it's like "and what..." It's like he's begging you for more explanation that he just don't wanna give you. I can respect it after so long but I still wonder. I'm not trying to evade his space but... damn, Mike... see what happens when you step out and do things without explaining? You get everybody gossiping. And they been doing that for 25 years, don't you think he's tired of it?

Timmy84 said:

I have read that vitiligo can cause psychological trauma and stress for the patients.

But yeah, I am not blaming vitiligo for all of his antics. But I have a feeling that it has a part in some of them.
[Edited 12/17/07 13:56pm]

Cinnamon234 said:

You know? It's not hard to be a fan but I think it's hard to be Michael because he doesn't explain himself or doesn't know how, I don't know.
[Edited 12/17/07 13:56pm]

EmbattledWarrior said:

I love Mike, but yeah dude lives for the attention . Always has, probably always will.

EmbattledWarrior said:

1 - I only asked a question and made no judgments about anything, so there's no need to get cross about things.
2 - That vitiligo is treated with UV is not common knowledge if you don't work in a skin clinic and/or follow MJ's every step.

Rodya24 said:

Because he's been out in public like that in the last 25 years, People don't act shocked anymore when they see Michael Jackson. He's still one of the most recognizable faces ever so it's hard to be private when PAPARAZZI KNOW WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE!