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I heard an instrumental version of "La La" and it sounds WILD!  Sounds more like a Stuart Price production than Timbaland.Very electronic and edgy.
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SoulAlive said: henree said: There is a video clip of floating around. Timbaland playing a minute and a half of the new track at Jingle Ball. I like the beat and chorus. But I don't like Timbaland screaming all over the track. Its like a Timbo feat.Madonna track.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...khxLymCrak I'm not even gonna judge it based on that except to say - I hope Timbaland's vocal presence on the track is less noticeable than it usually is on tracks he produces. It can ruin a good song. | |
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If that clip is any indication,Timbaland is all over the song,yelling his head off I think his vocals won't be as "loud" on the released single version,lol. | |
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I will reserve final judgement for the HQ version, but on the basis of that clip, is it a Timbaland song or a Madonna song?  | |
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Cinnie said: lastdecember said: Well it seems all the "old" females will try to be "young" by working with the "hip" people of today, but doing that makes you look old and desperate. First Janet now Madonna, next up Mariah and then Whitney.
Mary J Blige is no spring chicken either. Why be ageist about their choice of producers? Ok throw Mary in their too, and while there throw in Michael Jackson and his "rumoured" album and his new old rehashes with the "hipsters" and dont forget Duran Duran who practically lost their whole fan base with this latest album while trying to sell to teenagers at 50. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: Cinnie said: Mary J Blige is no spring chicken either. Why be ageist about their choice of producers? Ok throw Mary in their too, and while there throw in Michael Jackson and his "rumoured" album and his new old rehashes with the "hipsters" and dont forget Duran Duran who practically lost their whole fan base with this latest album while trying to sell to teenagers at 50. Are these people supposed to stop making pop music at a certain age?  | |
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Cinnie said: lastdecember said: Ok throw Mary in their too, and while there throw in Michael Jackson and his "rumoured" album and his new old rehashes with the "hipsters" and dont forget Duran Duran who practically lost their whole fan base with this latest album while trying to sell to teenagers at 50. Are these people supposed to stop making pop music at a certain age? Apparently | |
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VoicesCarry said: I will reserve final judgement for the HQ version, but on the basis of that clip, is it a Timbaland song or a Madonna song? | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: SoulAlive said: I'm not even gonna judge it based on that except to say - I hope Timbaland's vocal presence on the track is less noticeable than it usually is on tracks he produces. It can ruin a good song. I'm sure his vocal presence will be just as big as in the past & he'll probably ruin the songs on Madonna's CD. Tim just can't help himself. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Cinnie said: VoicesCarry said: I will reserve final judgement for the HQ version, but on the basis of that clip, is it a Timbaland song or a Madonna song? Someone on another forum summed it up pretty well: "its basically an average Timbaland track and Madonna has taken the role of Keri Hilson" | |
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Cinnie said: lastdecember said: Ok throw Mary in their too, and while there throw in Michael Jackson and his "rumoured" album and his new old rehashes with the "hipsters" and dont forget Duran Duran who practically lost their whole fan base with this latest album while trying to sell to teenagers at 50. Are these people supposed to stop making pop music at a certain age? No make good POP music, stop worrying about the charts and wanting to be like everyone else. If they were using producers that actually were all about making artists sound different from each other than im with it, but when i listened to the Duran Duran record, the band was gone through 95%, Timblaland doing vocals, it was the same that he does on every record he produces. He turned Duran Duran into a Solo act which is why the album was their worst seller ever, and their loyals despise it for the most part. A good producer knows how to use each artist differently, Timbaland needs to slow his roll and get back what he used to be able to do way back. But for the others i really am not shocked, MJ will do anything at this point, Mariah, well, love her, but i know this new album will be more of the same, half ok, half forgettable. Madonna im a little surprised since she used to be a trend setter not follower, and Mary, well her whole career has been this way, since im not shocked at her new songs. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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SoulAlive said: EXCLUSIVE DESCRIPTION OF "4 MINUTES TO SAVE THE WORLD" and "DANCE TONIGHT"
Madonnatribe sources can bring more exclusive news about two tracks from Madonna's new album. Of the lot of songs produced by Timbaland and Justin Timberlake that Mtribe reported about shortly after they had their final mixing at Hit Studios Miami in November,"4 Minutes To Save The World" is possibly the one with a stronger "classic" Timbaland vibe.If there's actually some "hip-hop" or "urban" vibe in Madonna's new album,we've been told that "4 Minutes" is probably the track where you can feel it the most.The song has an instantly catchy vibe,with percussion layers and hypnotic synthesized strings.While in the other songs on the album Justin can be heard on backing vocals-as exclusively reported on this site in mid-November-"4 Minutes To Save The World" is actually a duet.In the song's verses,Madonna and Justin basically sing one line each,answering each other on a back and forth basis. On the other hand,we've been told that "Dance Tonight" sounds like the funkiest song of the lot.You could say it's a dance track from beginning to end-there's dance in the title,dance in the theme,and dance in the instrumentation.It has a captivating late 70s-early 80s disco sound-fingered bass,claps,triangle-recalling historic dance songs by groups like Kool and The Gang,Skyy,Delegation,even a bit of the the early Michael Jackson-and huge references to the signature sound of Narada Michael Walden and to the origins of disco-rapping.To compare it another Madonna song,the most similiar thing that comes to mind is "Don't Stop" or maybe "Your Honesty" from the Bedtime Stories sessions. Lyric-wise,"Dance Tonight" also shares the same idea of fun,reprising the classic Madonna theme of letting yourself go and be guided by the music,and doing positive things while you dance the night away.  Am I the only one who's read this that still isn't excited about this new project? It sounds like it's going to be a Timbaland project featuring Madonna. Plus, hasn't Madonna done enough disco type songs already? I will check out the songs and I'm willing to eat Humble Pie like I did with Janet's new single but right now, I'm not drooling with excitement over this collaboration at all. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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lastdecember said: Cinnie said: Are these people supposed to stop making pop music at a certain age? No make good POP music, stop worrying about the charts and wanting to be like everyone else. If they were using producers that actually were all about making artists sound different from each other than im with it, but when i listened to the Duran Duran record, the band was gone through 95%, Timblaland doing vocals, it was the same that he does on every record he produces. He turned Duran Duran into a Solo act which is why the album was their worst seller ever, and their loyals despise it for the most part. A good producer knows how to use each artist differently, Timbaland needs to slow his roll and get back what he used to be able to do way back. But for the others i really am not shocked, MJ will do anything at this point, Mariah, well, love her, but i know this new album will be more of the same, half ok, half forgettable. Madonna im a little surprised since she used to be a trend setter not follower, and Mary, well her whole career has been this way, since im not shocked at her new songs. I get what you're saying. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Someone on another forum summed it up pretty well: "its basically an average Timbaland track and Madonna has taken the role of Keri Hilson"
I really don't think you can say that judging by this edited and very low quality clip. And it's obvious that Madonna has a lot of input, at least in songwriting, so you can't compare her to Timbaland's team. 
To me it sounds very promising, and a definite hit! | |
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LiveToTell86 said: VoicesCarry said: Someone on another forum summed it up pretty well: "its basically an average Timbaland track and Madonna has taken the role of Keri Hilson"
I really don't think you can say that judging by this edited and very low quality clip. And it's obvious that Madonna has a lot of input, at least in songwriting, so you can't compare her to Timbaland's team. I said I would reserve final judgement for the HQ clip. Oh, and Keri Hilson also does vocal arrangements and is a very successful songwriter (co-writing The Way I Are and Scream, as well as major hits for other artists since the early part of this decade), so I'm afraid you're completely incorrect on that count. [Edited 12/17/07 7:01am] | |
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LiveToTell86 said: VoicesCarry said: Someone on another forum summed it up pretty well: "its basically an average Timbaland track and Madonna has taken the role of Keri Hilson"
I really don't think you can say that judging by this edited and very low quality clip. And it's obvious that Madonna has a lot of input, at least in songwriting, so you can't compare her to Timbaland's team.
To me it sounds very promising, and a definite hit! Says screenname "Live To Tell 86" 
You have a point though. It was Timbaland's show so of course he's gonna be shouting over most of it, just to keep the crowd hype. | |
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purplecam said: SoulAlive said: EXCLUSIVE DESCRIPTION OF "4 MINUTES TO SAVE THE WORLD" and "DANCE TONIGHT"
Madonnatribe sources can bring more exclusive news about two tracks from Madonna's new album. Of the lot of songs produced by Timbaland and Justin Timberlake that Mtribe reported about shortly after they had their final mixing at Hit Studios Miami in November,"4 Minutes To Save The World" is possibly the one with a stronger "classic" Timbaland vibe.If there's actually some "hip-hop" or "urban" vibe in Madonna's new album,we've been told that "4 Minutes" is probably the track where you can feel it the most.The song has an instantly catchy vibe,with percussion layers and hypnotic synthesized strings.While in the other songs on the album Justin can be heard on backing vocals-as exclusively reported on this site in mid-November-"4 Minutes To Save The World" is actually a duet.In the song's verses,Madonna and Justin basically sing one line each,answering each other on a back and forth basis. On the other hand,we've been told that "Dance Tonight" sounds like the funkiest song of the lot.You could say it's a dance track from beginning to end-there's dance in the title,dance in the theme,and dance in the instrumentation.It has a captivating late 70s-early 80s disco sound-fingered bass,claps,triangle-recalling historic dance songs by groups like Kool and The Gang,Skyy,Delegation,even a bit of the the early Michael Jackson-and huge references to the signature sound of Narada Michael Walden and to the origins of disco-rapping.To compare it another Madonna song,the most similiar thing that comes to mind is "Don't Stop" or maybe "Your Honesty" from the Bedtime Stories sessions. Lyric-wise,"Dance Tonight" also shares the same idea of fun,reprising the classic Madonna theme of letting yourself go and be guided by the music,and doing positive things while you dance the night away. Am I the only one who's read this that still isn't excited about this new project? It sounds like it's going to be a Timbaland project featuring Madonna. Plus, hasn't Madonna done enough disco type songs already? I will check out the songs and I'm willing to eat Humble Pie like I did with Janet's new single but right now, I'm not drooling with excitement over this collaboration at all. I like to read " exclusive eyewitness reports" like this,but in the end,the album is usually much different than it's being described in these early reports.For example,I recall that before 'American Life' came out,someone described one of the songs as "New Edition-like"  We go through this everytime Madonna releases a new album.It's probably best to wait until we hear the finished project,lol. | |
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I think people get confused when a "blueprint" sells consistently they look to that person as a visionary. To me Timbaland in the last decade at least has created such a "blueprint", hes not doing anything that pharrell didnt do or that Max Martin didnt do when he created the biggest selling wave in music. But just because you sell, it doesnt make you good and i think a lot of the older artists see this and just wanna play the game and get that sure-fire hit regardless if its really "new". Production is not about making everyone sound the same, not using the same type of vocal arrangements and structures on everything so when u listen to a Duran Duran song you think your listening to a timberlake song, a producer brings the best in an artist forward, not push it away, and thats something most of these "producers" do, they stick to the formula, play it safe, thats why the records are forgotten so quick. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: I think people get confused when a "blueprint" sells consistently they look to that person as a visionary. To me Timbaland in the last decade at least has created such a "blueprint", hes not doing anything that pharrell didnt do or that Max Martin didnt do when he created the biggest selling wave in music. But just because you sell, it doesnt make you good and i think a lot of the older artists see this and just wanna play the game and get that sure-fire hit regardless if its really "new". Production is not about making everyone sound the same, not using the same type of vocal arrangements and structures on everything so when u listen to a Duran Duran song you think your listening to a timberlake song, a producer brings the best in an artist forward, not push it away, and thats something most of these "producers" do, they stick to the formula, play it safe, thats why the records are forgotten so quick.
 Well said.I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Rodya24 said: How sad.
I'm really looking forward....To Janet's new album! | |
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go2theMax said: lastdecember said: Well it seems all the "old" females will try to be "young" by working with the "hip" people of today, but doing that makes you look old and desperate. First Janet now Madonna, next up Mariah and then Whitney.
well, madonna's new song cannot be worse than janet's...it would take a lot of effort 2 do that Janet's new song is the hottness....the description of this one sounds like the lameness! | |
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purplecam said: SoulAlive said: EXCLUSIVE DESCRIPTION OF "4 MINUTES TO SAVE THE WORLD" and "DANCE TONIGHT"
Madonnatribe sources can bring more exclusive news about two tracks from Madonna's new album. Of the lot of songs produced by Timbaland and Justin Timberlake that Mtribe reported about shortly after they had their final mixing at Hit Studios Miami in November,"4 Minutes To Save The World" is possibly the one with a stronger "classic" Timbaland vibe.If there's actually some "hip-hop" or "urban" vibe in Madonna's new album,we've been told that "4 Minutes" is probably the track where you can feel it the most.The song has an instantly catchy vibe,with percussion layers and hypnotic synthesized strings.While in the other songs on the album Justin can be heard on backing vocals-as exclusively reported on this site in mid-November-"4 Minutes To Save The World" is actually a duet.In the song's verses,Madonna and Justin basically sing one line each,answering each other on a back and forth basis. On the other hand,we've been told that "Dance Tonight" sounds like the funkiest song of the lot.You could say it's a dance track from beginning to end-there's dance in the title,dance in the theme,and dance in the instrumentation.It has a captivating late 70s-early 80s disco sound-fingered bass,claps,triangle-recalling historic dance songs by groups like Kool and The Gang,Skyy,Delegation,even a bit of the the early Michael Jackson-and huge references to the signature sound of Narada Michael Walden and to the origins of disco-rapping.To compare it another Madonna song,the most similiar thing that comes to mind is "Don't Stop" or maybe "Your Honesty" from the Bedtime Stories sessions. Lyric-wise,"Dance Tonight" also shares the same idea of fun,reprising the classic Madonna theme of letting yourself go and be guided by the music,and doing positive things while you dance the night away. Am I the only one who's read this that still isn't excited about this new project? It sounds like it's going to be a Timbaland project featuring Madonna. Plus, hasn't Madonna done enough disco type songs already? I will check out the songs and I'm willing to eat Humble Pie like I did with Janet's new single but right now, I'm not drooling with excitement over this collaboration at all. There's never been an album I'm looking forward to less from an artist that I'm very interested in! | |
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VinnyM27 said: Rodya24 said: How sad.
I'm really looking forward....To Janet's new album! Whoa. I read that Madonna's been sporting the sunglasses to hide some plastic surgery, but I didn't realize it was that bad!  | |
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she sucks ass with or without JT and Timbo | |
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I love this clip... The beat reminds me of Missy Elliott's "Sock It 2 Me". And the verses remind me of the verses to Ciara's "Goodies" And the chorus sounds amazing But YEAH, I gotta hear the HQ before I judge it Remember a smile is the quickest way to improve your apperance... | |
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asaint said: I love this clip... The beat reminds me of Missy Elliott's "Sock It 2 Me". And the verses remind me of the verses to Ciara's "Goodies"
And the chorus sounds amazing But YEAH, I gotta hear the HQ before I judge it Really? I'm either not digging it at all or just hope that I'm not really hearing it well since there is a crowd and Timabaland loudly yelling bullshit. She is forcing me not to buy this album at this point. I dig R&B and have been listeing to the current R&B station lately but this is mindless. It's almost the highlight of Madonna's weaknesses in her songwriting and voice. I lvoe Madonna, but when she wants to, she can make some real garbage! | |
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VinnyM27 said: asaint said: I love this clip... The beat reminds me of Missy Elliott's "Sock It 2 Me". And the verses remind me of the verses to Ciara's "Goodies"
And the chorus sounds amazing But YEAH, I gotta hear the HQ before I judge it Really? I'm either not digging it at all or just hope that I'm not really hearing it well since there is a crowd and Timabaland loudly yelling bullshit. She is forcing me not to buy this album at this point. I dig R&B and have been listeing to the current R&B station lately but this is mindless. It's almost the highlight of Madonna's weaknesses in her songwriting and voice. I lvoe Madonna, but when she wants to, she can make some real garbage! The Timbaland yelling isn't a part of the song though. He's just kinda commenting on it, and introducing Madonna and JT as the song plays 
"Sock It 2 Me" is my favorite Missy song, so I LOVE it... Remember a smile is the quickest way to improve your apperance... | |
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asaint said: VinnyM27 said: Really? I'm either not digging it at all or just hope that I'm not really hearing it well since there is a crowd and Timabaland loudly yelling bullshit. She is forcing me not to buy this album at this point. I dig R&B and have been listeing to the current R&B station lately but this is mindless. It's almost the highlight of Madonna's weaknesses in her songwriting and voice. I lvoe Madonna, but when she wants to, she can make some real garbage! The Timbaland yelling isn't a part of the song though. He's just kinda commenting on it, and introducing Madonna and JT as the song plays
"Sock It 2 Me" is my favorite Missy song, so I LOVE it... Unfortunately I don't think so. I saw the video clip of Tim playing this track. And all his yelling is coming from the actual recording. Not live on the stage.. | |
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I like the beats for la la and 4 minutes, better than I expected | |
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IstenSzek said: i still think she should do an honest, in depth album
with only real instruments and introspective songs. i've been in love with this fanmade mix ever since i first heard it. http://www.youtube.com/wa..._BZF_U082M  Damn. That is absolutely stellar  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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