Harlepolis said:

she deserves a razzie for that "surprised" act she pulled outta her bum in there

Come on, vocally she's undeniably talented and she's a fearless performer.

Have you seen that clip were she falls downs the stairs and bounces on her head and gets back up and finishes her routine? Totally gave me a new respect for her!

I think very few artists can match her live voice, it's powerful and mostly under control. Oversinging is a matter of her musical taste and I think those runs are a way of displaying her chops to a crowd of her fans who love that about her. Generally on disc she's relatively good at reigning that in, I can think of plenty worse.

Most of the things that video was poking fun at was her corny/fake/diva behaviour and she's definitely all those things. I wouldn't take any style or 'class' lessons off her but as a popular performer she can share a stage with anyone.

Ain't that a bitch. Some damn Beyonce stans have rosen from the dead . Just sit back Orgers and watch them make monotonous threads by the thousands.
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Yep, I definitely do. I thought Umbrella was one of the finest pop songs of 2007. Those two Beyonce songs were very repetitive after a while


Yeah, It's no wonder Mary J. Blige rejected it. Mandy Moore's version is MUCH better. Now, I have seen both Bey and Rihanna in concert and Bey, just blows her out of the water. I think the problem is over exposure. It seems like everywhere you turn, you see Bey and yes, it can get a little annoying. I think her people, and by this I mean her dad, need to reconsider how they are going to do things in '08. If they don't she will have a very small fanbase. What I find funny is how people will hate on someone like her who can really sing and praise someone like Rihanna, who songs like she is holding helium gas, hostage. When you think about it, Rihanna has had more exposure than Bey. Rihanna released two CD's in a year? IMO, she is a perfect example of a factor made singer. The look, the feel. Everything about her has been designed by her record company. What little talent she might have had in the begining, has been dilutted by her new "Bad Girl", imagine. What a shame.

Well Being that the track had Tricky's touch on it, this what made the difference and it miles apart from the rest. Also, the imagery in the video for the Umbrella track was reminesent of the Grace Jones' videos to a degree. This also help propel the single success and compresate for Rhianna's lack of vocal capability.
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MsLegs said:

Rhianna can't sing wroth a damn. She sounds like a high school girl with a karaoke machine.

JasmineFire said:

OooohWeee!!!

what is annoying ????

myfavorite said:

I don't think she's annoying. But this video was actually poking fun at her "weirdness".

@RipHer2Shreds, I definitely see her drive after that tumble. A lesser performer, I'm not naming names (coughBritneycough), would've given up and claimed she was "paralyzed", lol.
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shorttrini said:

Nowhere in my post did I say Rihanna was a good live performer (she certainly isn't, and I wouldn't pay to see her squat), or that I felt she was in any way shape or form more talented than Beyonce. All I said is that I find her songs better than Beyonce's. And a great singer with bad material is a lot less tolerable than a bad singer with great material IMHO.
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krayzie said:[quote]

VelvetJ said:

I am a Beyonce fan, but you have lost your ENTIRE mind to say Kelly Price isn't a great vocalist. I have Kelly Price's secular as well as gospel cd's, and if you feel nothing from her powerful voice, you need to check your pulse.

What the hell is wrong with this child?

I mean I love her, but damn ... that extreme physical exaggeration with EVERYTHING just makes her look silly.

And TEARS at the end. Who says that girl can't act?!

totaldiva said:

exactly .. that's what im saying.. Kelly cant be touched ..omgosh the background vocals in this .. and there's no way Beyonce can touch this voice..

http://www.youtube.com/wa..._ekRF_5JIE

there are only 2 artists that I can sing to soulfully and with strong vocals, and they are michael jackson and beyonce. I can sing others stuff too, but these two do something to me. Even janet, who I'm a huge fan of, though I jam to her stuff, doesn't do that to me though she has a pretty voice.
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Flowerz said:

Boring!

Beyonce is far better and kelly is ugly so who cares about that religious nut

alphastreet said:

These are the only two artists you feel have soulful, strong voices?

fcukthepolice said:

Your attitude is the reason the music industry sucks now. Yes, I love Beyonce, but people like you put ass over talent. If Beyonce wasn't a fair skinned, blonde weave wearing, pretty girl with the hips and ass, but with the same vocal ability, would you feel the same about her? I think Beyonce is very talented, I enjoyed seeing her live(once with DC, once solo), but they're singers, who may not be as pretty, but have more powerful vocals. Beyonce cannot outsing Kelly Price or Jennifer Hudson (did you see the Emmy's), but because these two singers are plus size women, both attractive, they will not get the same praise.

VoicesCarry said:

Re-read what she said. "there are only 2 artists that I can sing to soulfully and with strong vocals..."

RipHer2Shreds said:

I know, I realize that now. I guess whatever moves ya.
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Well there was a nice show aired on CBS earlier this week with many good singers of this generation like Beyonce, Usher, Jennifer Hudson, Carrie Underwood, Nicole, Fergie, Mary and etc.

I read the comments about Kelly Price appearance, and people don't realize but appearance plays a huge factor into who we think are the best. These were the best performances, imo, of the night, but just try to listen to each performance without watching the video, and judge who did the best on VOCALS alone. Some can probably say Beyonce on watching it, but if your only listening then Carrie and Jennifer are better vocalists(in control and power).

Beyonce-Somewhere Over the Rainbow
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

Jennifer Hudson-Somewhere
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

Carrie Underwood-The Sound Of Music
http://www.youtube.com/wa...tdaXutFgE8
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Beyonce is a beautiful woman, but she is one Popeye's chicken wing away from a total explosion.

totaldiva said:

Totally agree.

This thread is cracking me up. It just shows the state of music today when people can actually classify Beyonce as a GREAT vocalist . And I won't even respond to that other nonsense krayzie stated.

dragondayz said:

Wow! Thanks for posting that. I could have done without that last belt, but otherwise it was superb!

totaldiva said:

what?
B is in the best shape ever. Her abds are tight; her body is great.
Her feet however

SHe has a nice snatch too. Yum yum

fcukthepolice said:

Yes she is, but she has the fat gene. One chicken wing or pregnancy, it's a wrap. Britney also had a banging body. Jennifer Lopez and Janet better watch themselves too. As Cedric said in the movie "Barbershop", there is a difference from a phat ass and a fat ass bitch.

fcukthepolice said:

I forgot to add that obviously you are under the age of 30, so I understand your musical taste. It took me to get older to appreciate real music and talent despite someone's looks. I am caught between two generations of music. I can appreciate performers like Beyonce, some hip hop, but also know the difference of a vocalist, performer, and a musician. I think B has a beautiful voice and she is a great performer for the genre she is in(I lost 5 pounds just watching her live), but vocally, she cannot compete with saangers(not singers) like Whitney(before the crack), Kelly Price, Fantasia, or Jennifer Hudson. Christina Aguleria (i know, spelling wrong) can give Bey work vocally, but that doesn't take away the fact that Bey is one of the most entertaining artist of the present. Just keep a real perspective on things.

totaldiva said:

what do you mean my taste? Under 30 ? what does that have anything to do with it?
At my age i can't listen to any ignorant shit i did at 16. When i was 16 all i wanted to do was smoke weed and listen to only hip hop. I mean literally only hip hop. Now i wish i had all the other great artists in my life but i was ignorant to music till i bought prince's greatest hits. After that everything changed for me. what you're saying i understand totally but i changed my views long ago.

I listen to hundreds of artists. I have thousands of cds, sacds, dvds and LPS from zeppelin, zappa, the who, stevie wonder, deep purple, prince, cream, and the beatles

that is just fab. have to buy that DVD!

dawntreader said:

dl it off pirate bay