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Reply #60 posted 12/07/07 7:12am

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VoicesCarry said:

Xagain said:



You don't think Beyonce has any vocal control? confused
That's crazy.
I'm not even a fan of Beyonce, but the idea that she can't sing is crazy.


Now where did he say that? He said: "an inability to control one's voice is a limitation". Beyonce is often unable to exercise control over her voice. It's undeniable. A lot of singers are guilty of this, and yes, it is a limitation.


Where did he say what?
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Reply #61 posted 12/07/07 7:14am

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VoicesCarry said:



Now where did he say that? He said: "an inability to control one's voice is a limitation". Beyonce is often unable to exercise control over her voice. It's undeniable. A lot of singers are guilty of this, and yes, it is a limitation.


Where did he say what?


Where did he say he doesn't think Beyonce has any vocal control?
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Reply #62 posted 12/07/07 7:16am

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YO!
When it comes to her talent,
the only thing more massively well rounded than Bey's vocal control
is the shape of her ass.

And just that combo right there is enough to negate all of her "annoyances".
hmph!


Take that, U haters.


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Reply #63 posted 12/07/07 7:17am

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Wow, to say Fantasia can't sing is just as worse as saying Beyonce can't sing.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...SQt_X2AUak


I never did before, but just this year I'm having a different feeling about Beyonce's voice. I kind of agree an the notion that her vocals are limited...atleast compared too more powerhouse singers. I've never heard Beyonce's voice really soar like a Mariah, Lisa Fishcer, Whitney, Tamia, or even Christina Augilera.

It's not a bad thing, but I don't think her voice is made for big ballads. Hopefully i'm proven wrong in the near future.
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Reply #64 posted 12/07/07 7:18am

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VoicesCarry said:

Xagain said:



Where did he say what?


Where did he say he doesn't think Beyonce has any vocal control?
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Hmm. I'll have to look that up and get back to you.
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Reply #65 posted 12/07/07 7:19am

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Wow, to say Fantasia can't sing is just as worse as saying Beyonce can't sing.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...SQt_X2AUak


I never did before, but just this year I'm having a different feeling about Beyonce's voice. I kind of agree an the notion that her vocals are limited...atleast compared too more powerhouse singers. I've never heard Beyonce's voice really soar like a Mariah, Lisa Fishcer, Whitney, Tamia, or even Christina Augilera.

It's not a bad thing, but I don't think her voice is made for big ballads. Hopefully i'm proven wrong in the near future.


Beyonce likes to scream a lot on the fast tracks so we don't notice how limited she is on the slow tracks.
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Reply #66 posted 12/07/07 7:35am

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she comes off very amateur hour...she should not be at her current level of stardom...give her a couple more years to mature her craft and she probably could have been a legend...but now, she is probably too arrogant to listen to others help her fine tune her craft.
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Reply #67 posted 12/07/07 7:46am

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Illustrator said:

YO!
When it comes to her talent,
the only thing more massively well rounded than Bey's vocal control
is the shape of her ass.

And just that combo right there is enough to negate all of her "annoyances".
hmph!


Take that, U haters.



lol
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Reply #68 posted 12/07/07 7:47am

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she comes off very amateur hour...she should not be at her current level of stardom...give her a couple more years to mature her craft and she probably could have been a legend...but now, she is probably too arrogant to listen to others help her fine tune her craft.


That's my problem with Beyonce. We all know she's a dope performer, but I feel like she doesnt even TRY to push it musically. I honestly think Rihanna's album is better than Beyonce's and that is crazy because Beyonce is such a huge artist and she's at a level where there is no excuse for her music to not be the best.

She has to step it up next go round, or there will hardly be anything that lasts or is remembered of her music.

As I think about it, Usher is kind of on the same boat isn't he?
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Reply #69 posted 12/07/07 8:00am

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Tell me all those so called better singers OUT THERE WHO CAN OUTPERFORM HER ??? WHO CAN DO EXACTLY WHAT SHE DOES NOW ? AND BETTER ???

And please you don't know what means vocal limitations... Oversinging is NOT vocal limitations...

Vocal limitation is when you can't hit the high notes, when your voice is not stronger enough, when you can't hold long notes, when you lack vibrato and meslisma skills, when you have hard time to sound on stage like you sound on CD ...

And Beyonce is NOTHING of that...

Now you can tell me you hate her, that's OK, but don't try to pretend that she got some vocal limitations...

You really need to ease up instead of being such a ragged cunt all the time. Never said I hated her. Never even said I disliked her. An inability to control one's voice is a limitation. It's one that can be overcome, but it's a limitation nonetheless.


My friend

Tell me where she has an "inability to control her voice" ...

That makes no FUCKING sense...

In fact she has always been able to control her voice very well... Even when she has to make those silly dance moves...

You try way to hard to find something to criticize her...


Again claiming she has vocal "limitations" is jokable...
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Reply #70 posted 12/07/07 8:12am

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RipHer2Shreds said:


You really need to ease up instead of being such a ragged cunt all the time. Never said I hated her. Never even said I disliked her. An inability to control one's voice is a limitation. It's one that can be overcome, but it's a limitation nonetheless.


My friend

Tell me where she has an "inability to control her voice" ...

That makes no FUCKING sense...

In fact she has always been able to control her voice very well... Even when she has to make those silly dance moves...

You try way to hard to find something to criticize her...


Again claiming she has vocal "limitations" is jokable...


agreed
Alicia keys on the other hand
Her vocals are horrific.
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Reply #71 posted 12/07/07 8:13am

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she comes off very amateur hour...she should not be at her current level of stardom...give her a couple more years to mature her craft and she probably could have been a legend...but now, she is probably too arrogant to listen to others help her fine tune her craft.


Beyonce is an AMATEUR? Amateurs are ppl like Fergie, Nicole Schfhkaijak, Rihanna, and even Mariah who still looks timid & nervous on stage after 16 yrs in the biz!! I've never seen Beyonce on stage and not perform up to par. Even during the original line-up of Destiny's Child 10 yrs ago...she sung on key & connected with the crowd then. Something alot of female artists now cannot do. I just disagree...I think she has proven herself as of now and the industry knows it.
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Reply #72 posted 12/07/07 8:19am

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She overdoes EVERYTHING


And she gives off that arrogant diva personality when you see her on stage or at award shows mad
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Reply #73 posted 12/07/07 8:22am

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Scorpion said:

sosgemini said:

she comes off very amateur hour...she should not be at her current level of stardom...give her a couple more years to mature her craft and she probably could have been a legend...but now, she is probably too arrogant to listen to others help her fine tune her craft.


Beyonce is an AMATEUR? Amateurs are ppl like Fergie, Nicole Schfhkaijak, Rihanna, and even Mariah who still looks timid & nervous on stage after 16 yrs in the biz!! I've never seen Beyonce on stage and not perform up to par. Even during the original line-up of Destiny's Child 10 yrs ago...she sung on key & connected with the crowd then. Something alot of female artists now cannot do. I just disagree...I think she has proven herself as of now and the industry knows it.


did you watch that youtube clip? lol
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Reply #74 posted 12/07/07 8:28am

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I feel she's a great singer and performer, my biggest problem with Beyonce isn't her but the songs she is singing. That's what gets me like disbelief . Because you would think a singer of her caliber would be singing songs that are NOT hip-hop oriented. She may have come out of H-Town but she's NOT an H-Town chick. Blame it on HOV, I guess. lol
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Reply #75 posted 12/07/07 8:30am

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Scorpion said:

sosgemini said:

she comes off very amateur hour...she should not be at her current level of stardom...give her a couple more years to mature her craft and she probably could have been a legend...but now, she is probably too arrogant to listen to others help her fine tune her craft.


Beyonce is an AMATEUR? Amateurs are ppl like Fergie, Nicole Schfhkaijak, Rihanna, and even Mariah who still looks timid & nervous on stage after 16 yrs in the biz!! I've never seen Beyonce on stage and not perform up to par. Even during the original line-up of Destiny's Child 10 yrs ago...she sung on key & connected with the crowd then. Something alot of female artists now cannot do. I just disagree...I think she has proven herself as of now and the industry knows it.


Mariah was just fine on stage ca. 1990-1995. It's when her voice started to go downhill that she started to look timid and nervous on stage. I still don't put her in the same category as those other girls.

I wouldn't pay to see Beyonce. I don't like her songs, and her singing style doesn't do it for me. I've seen parts of her show and it just didn't interest me. shrug
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Reply #76 posted 12/07/07 8:35am

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I feel she's a great singer and performer, my biggest problem with Beyonce isn't her but the songs she is singing. That's what gets me like disbelief . Because you would think a singer of her caliber would be singing songs that are NOT hip-hop oriented. She may have come out of H-Town but she's NOT an H-Town chick. Blame it on HOV, I guess. lol


I agree. It is refreshing to see a female entertainer who is not in complete dependence of her choreographer and sings for the most part live. She knows how to work the stage and has stage presence. I have to give her respect for that. And this is coming from someone who thinks her songs are boring, and who is tired of seeing and hearing about her everywhere. Obviously, she has established herself as one of the biggest stars of this generation, whether people like it or not. shrug
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Reply #77 posted 12/07/07 8:41am

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the funniest part of the video was when she was singing "check up on it" did you see her facial expressions when she said "Oh you watchin me shake it, I see it in ya face Ya can't take it, it's blazin (what her face when she says blazin), you watch me in amazement" did you see how that woman looked lol lol lol that song is NOT that serious....

just the way she dances sometimes is UGLY and looks embarrassing.. her Dangerously in love tour was better IMO... i think she takes things too far...
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Reply #78 posted 12/07/07 8:45am

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Well when you reach her plateau, of course you're gonna have people who talk. I especially don't hate her if you're referring to me. lol I was just saying. biggrin


No i was just referring to the guy that made the youtube..actually sat and took TIME to say WHY he didnt like her!!! Really...if u cant stand things, WHY watch the whole movie and take a hour editing your worst parts?/ WHY!?

he was probably having fun.... lol lol i guess he wanted to make others laugh or show people why she is annoying... I had a good laugh last night and today watching this video
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Reply #79 posted 12/07/07 8:54am

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beyonce used her higher range more when she was younger. Just cause she doesn't use it onstage doesn't mean it's not there. She uses it on tracks here and there, but doesn't overuse it. The last thing we need is another whistler like mariah
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Reply #80 posted 12/07/07 8:57am

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You really need to ease up instead of being such a ragged cunt all the time. Never said I hated her. Never even said I disliked her. An inability to control one's voice is a limitation. It's one that can be overcome, but it's a limitation nonetheless.


My friend

Tell me where she has an "inability to control her voice" ...

That makes no FUCKING sense...

In fact she has always been able to control her voice very well... Even when she has to make those silly dance moves...

You try way to hard to find something to criticize her...


Again claiming she has vocal "limitations" is jokable...

I've explained pretty well what I do and don't like about her and also stated that I have no hate for her, so I'm not sure what you want from me at this point.

Beyonce is pretty much perfection, I guess. cloud9
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Reply #81 posted 12/07/07 9:01am

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dragondayz said:

sosgemini said:

she comes off very amateur hour...she should not be at her current level of stardom...give her a couple more years to mature her craft and she probably could have been a legend...but now, she is probably too arrogant to listen to others help her fine tune her craft.


That's my problem with Beyonce. We all know she's a dope performer, but I feel like she doesnt even TRY to push it musically. I honestly think Rihanna's album is better than Beyonce's and that is crazy because Beyonce is such a huge artist and she's at a level where there is no excuse for her music to not be the best.

She has to step it up next go round, or there will hardly be anything that lasts or is remembered of her music.

As I think about it, Usher is kind of on the same boat isn't he?

lol lol lol i think rihanna is gorgeous... honestly i think she looks better then beyonce... because beyonce tries to hard.. and her make-up and blond/honey fake hair is annoying... she needs to change up...

rihanna looks fresh, just simple and classic natural beauty....
but rihanna needs to learn how to dance, perform/work the stage and practice on her vocals... but her music is great, she has amazing style
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Reply #82 posted 12/07/07 9:02am

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beyonce style is too predictable and I love rihanna's look this year and her songs, but she doesn't have beyonce's raw talent
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Reply #83 posted 12/07/07 9:07am

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beyonce style is too predictable and I love rihanna's look this year and her songs, but she doesn't have beyonce's raw talent


What Rihanna does have, I think, are good songs. If the songs are bad it doesn't matter who sings them, they won't work.
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Reply #84 posted 12/07/07 9:29am

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I feel she's a great singer and performer, my biggest problem with Beyonce isn't her but the songs she is singing. That's what gets me like disbelief . Because you would think a singer of her caliber would be singing songs that are NOT hip-hop oriented. She may have come out of H-Town but she's NOT an H-Town chick. Blame it on HOV, I guess. lol


Her music is not hip hop oriented...
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Reply #85 posted 12/07/07 9:31am

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Timmy84 said:

I feel she's a great singer and performer, my biggest problem with Beyonce isn't her but the songs she is singing. That's what gets me like disbelief . Because you would think a singer of her caliber would be singing songs that are NOT hip-hop oriented. She may have come out of H-Town but she's NOT an H-Town chick. Blame it on HOV, I guess. lol


Her music is not hip hop oriented...


Yes it is.
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Reply #86 posted 12/07/07 9:33am

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dragondayz said:

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Her music is not hip hop oriented...


Yes it is.


Nope it's not.

Beyonce is not hip hop oriented. She's more pop oriented...
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Reply #87 posted 12/07/07 9:42am

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alphastreet said:

beyonce style is too predictable and I love rihanna's look this year and her songs, but she doesn't have beyonce's raw talent


What Rihanna does have, I think, are good songs. If the songs are bad it doesn't matter who sings them, they won't work.


I don't see how Rihanna has better songs than Beyonce. confused And I don't mean to hate on Rihanna, but her voice doesn't come anywhere near Beyonce's. Not even in the same league. You may prefer Rihanna, and that's fine. But you really think "Umbrella" is THAT much better than "Crazy in Love" or "Naughty Girl?"
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Reply #88 posted 12/07/07 9:43am

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Yes it is.


Nope it's not.

Beyonce is not hip hop oriented. She's more pop oriented...


pop/hip hop/rnb.
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Reply #89 posted 12/07/07 9:46am

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What Rihanna does have, I think, are good songs. If the songs are bad it doesn't matter who sings them, they won't work.


I don't see how Rihanna has better songs than Beyonce. confused And I don't mean to hate on Rihanna, but her voice doesn't come anywhere near Beyonce's. Not even in the same league. You may prefer Rihanna, and that's fine. But you really think "Umbrella" is THAT much better than "Crazy in Love" or "Naughty Girl?"


I think S.O.S, Unfaithful, Don't Stop The Music, Breaking Dishes, Shut Up and Drive are all better songs.

Crazy In Love, Me Myself And I, Irreplacable are all good songs, but a lot of Beyonce's songs lack a little lyrically.
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