I saw this while surfing for Donna Summer (it's the disco man in me, I love me some Donna ), anyway here u go:

Nashville's Donna Summer among nominees for Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction

The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame will announce their 2008 class of inductees on Dec. 13, choosing among the list of nine nominees, which includes Nashvillian disco and pop mainstay Donna Summer, pop superstar Madonna, hip-hop/rock trio the Beastie Boys, revered surf-rock band the Ventures, inimatable funk mastermind Afrika Bambattaa, British Invasion band the Dave Clark Five, rock singer John Mellencamp, jazz-funk troupe Chic and legendary songwriter Leonard Cohen.

Performers eligible for nomination must have released a first single or album at least 25 years in advance of the nod. The induction ceremony will be held at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York on March 10.

To see a list of all Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees, go to:

http://www.rockhall.com/i...uctee-list

SOURCE: http://www.tennessean.com...4/71204055

I could be like Roger and boycott it but I won't if Donna, Chic and/or Afrika get in, if neither of 'em don't, I'm going to finally say "to hell with 'em!" LOL

Oh... and apparently word has gone around that one of the inductees have already been announced:



"I'm John Mellencamp, bitch!"

Timmy84 said:

Yeah about time for him to be in already, this is his 3rd time on the ballot

that madonna would be inducted before joan jett is the very opposite of rock'n'roll.

Anxiety said:

I know you are somewhere that they "don't" induct Ms. Ciccone.

Well I can almost predict Madonna will be in. Donna Summer...seems like she should had been in by now

Still not a really great list. Doesn't really impress me or excite me to want to watch the ceremony.

Timmy84 said:

hall of fame

like the baseball or football hall of fames are based on who is the best in their field and most of the time that is proven with satisitics or fame.

who besides the Beatles Michael Jackson and Elvis have been more successful than Madonna? or more famous? though you may not like what she has done there is no doubt based on the scope of her carear the length of it, the high sales volumes and her cultural impact there is no reason she shouldn't be in the hall of fame. I know Anx would like to see Joan in there but when comes down to it she's just like all those sports players who might be good but just don't make it into their hall of fame.

Madge belongs.

ehuffnsd said:

ok, you might make an argument for madonna but your argument against joan just plain sucks. ever heard of a little band called the runaways? and let's see, who re-recorded a song that became a freakin' anthem for rock music, "i love rock'n'roll"?

when the runaways bio-pic comes out next year and everyone's FINALLY singing their praises, i don't even wanna hear you talking all of a sudden about what a legend joan jett was, you hear me?

Anxiety said:

And for every "I Love Rock 'n' Roll" by Joan Jett and The Blackhearts, Madonna has at least a dozen songs that were equally if not more impacting on the music scene.

I feel it's practically senseless to make an argument not to induct Madonna -- if she is not considered worthy then it calls into question the worthiness of the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame itself.

Anxiety said:

only if you meant me at IML next year HAHAHAHA

The Hall of Fame is a funny thing because its not a "record sales" thing at all its more of influence on their time and for future artists. Now those last things are very interesting, influence on their time and future artists, two people pop into my mind, Kiss and Alice Cooper, whether you like them or not they cannot be denied for the effect on the time they were in, I mean KISS made LIVE albums a thing of value at a time when they really werent and as far as influence from them, i think i saw Shakira wearing a KISS t-shirt, so thats a pretty far stretch of their influence. As for ALICE COOPER well if not for him, you could pretty much lose artists like Marilyn Manson because they wouldnt even exist.

I think with the hall its not so much un-worthy its the things they miss,and the ones that get in before, i mean no CHICAGO and HALL and OATES and yet the Ronnettes go in first try, while they cant get on the ballot, and to say those 2 had no inluence or effect on their time. And lets not even talk about how TRUE rock females are really not represented at all, not even bringing up Joan Jett, how about freaking HEART! Possibly the best female rock vocalist ever.

and off topic isnt it FUNNY that the All Time Hits leader in Baseball (Pete Rose) and the All Time Homerun Leader (barry bonds) will probably never get in, and barry will be lucky if it doesnt do time, Pete did.
[Edited 12/5/07 17:08pm]

ehuffnsd said:

Well, technically, Mariah Carey has been more successful in some respects than Madonna, but that's another argument for another day, as Mariah is not eligible to be nominated for the RRHoF for another eight years. At any rate, I think that Maddy is a shoo-in for the RRHoF, as well as John Mellencamp and probably the Dave Clark Five and Leonard Cohen.

As for the criteria of getting into the RRHoF, as opposed to baseball, football, and basketball, statistics alone won't guarantee anything. In fact, if pure statistics were a major criterion for entry into the RRHoF as they are in sports, half of the most legendary artists currently in the RRHoF would not have stood a chance of getting in. Jimi Hendrix technically had only a couple of top 40 hits, and the Grateful Dead are one-hit wonders. While sports hall of fame entries have been quantified down to a science (lifetime batting average, total home runs, runs batted in, number of pitching victories, lowest lifetime ERA, yards per carry, total touchdown passes, total touchdown catches, total receptions, lifetime field goal percentage, total rebounds, lifetime goals scored). the fact that rock and roll is an artistic medium means that the criteria for getting into the RRHoF is going to be significantly more fluid and therefore more subjective. While sportswriters, coaches, and former players may vote on hall of fame nominees in sports, who does the equivalent for the RRHoF? Music critics? Producers? Other artists? Not to offend anyone, but someone who produced and wrote music for the acid rock bands of the late 1960s and Led Zeppelin is going to have a more pronounced bias towards those artists and probably would not vote for a disco, punk or early hip-hop act on the first ballot. That doesn't necessarily mean that this voter hates disco or hip-hop; he is just going to vote for what he is more familiar with.

missfee said:

But is disco really rock n roll?

funkpill said:

I always felt "Rock and Roll" in this context is used as a euphemism to describe "U.S. based popular music" so it encompasses all the genres (which explains why people like Louis Armstrong and Johnny Cash are inducted). I feel some people are being too literal with the term.
[Edited 12/5/07 19:16pm]

missfee said:

Donna never been nominated before although her first album, "Lady of the Night" came out in 1974 (most probably consider it 1975, though, when the very popular "Love To Love You, Baby" was issued). Sucks if she doesn't before Madonna.

if Mellencamp aint in it this year i'm gonna eat my shorts!

Najee said:

Exactly! And rock & roll is also connected with "controversy". Like if Madonna was controversial for stuff she did in the '80s, Donna was almost as equally controversial in the '70s ("Love to Love You Baby" was moaned the hell out of the song 22 times! ). And I do feel that the term is being taken too seriously and too literal.

Milty said:

I read that he already KNOWS he's inducted so you won't have to go that far.

I would go absolutely nuts if Madonna,Chic and Donna Summer all get inducted this year How cool would that be?

Anxiety said:

With that said, if Madonna goes in this year, which everyone knows she will, she'll deserve it. But more than Madonna, I want Donna Summer on that list. She MUST be on the RRHOF. Without Donna, Madonna wouldn't be doing the kind of music she's done
[Edited 12/6/07 6:42am]

Najee said:

I think Madonna is a sure bet but I want Chic and Donna Summer in there too!

Najee said:

I don't think he was arguing against Madonna, just making a (valid) argument for why The Runaways should be in there...and they should. They were - and continue to be (just ask The Donnas) - an influential band.

missfee said:

Indeed.Donna pretty much ruled the late 70s.Not only did she have alot of hits,she had songs that were truly groundbreaking and edgy,for that time,anyway."I Feel Love" basically started the whole techno movement,and with songs like "Hot Stuff" and her awesome "MacArthur Park" remake,she even had rock fans buying her records.

Donna Summer, Chic, and Afrika Bambaata.....this one might actually be worth watching this year. The only other time I watched the show was when Prince was inducted.

Well, now you know how I feel knowing that someone like Shitney Houston will probably make it in before hardcore funk bands (which are closer to rock). Madonna isn't weak by no means but Joan Jett is definately harder and much more on the rock side.

Neither is rap but Grandmaster Flash was inducted. If they are going to stretch the genres, Donna Summer should have been in long before Grandmaster Flash.

here how one site breaks it down :

http://www.futurerockhall...minees.php


>>>>>Here are your official 2008 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees (all quotes from the official press release):

Afrika Bambaataa "began DJing at block parties in the Bronx in 1977 with the help of Universal Zulu Nation, an organization he founded to help pull Bronx youth away from gangs. Bambaataa’s stunning knowledge of obscure funk grooves and his turntable skills earned him the nickname “Master of Records.” As his parties grew, so did his Zulu Nation – which soon encompassed the Bronx’s finest rappers, break dancers and graffiti artists. In 1982, Bambaataa released the Kraftwerk-sampling hit single “Planet Rock” which spawned an entirely new genre of music: electro funk. In 1984, he teamed up with former Sex Pistol John Lydon for “World Destruction” one of the earliest examples of rap fusing with rock and roll."
Current Induction Chances: 26%


Beastie Boys "began as a hardcore punk band in 1982, but soon jumped to the city’s vibrant rap scene. Their Rick Rubin-produced album, Licensed to Ill, was a masterful collage of classic rock samples, pop culture references and bratty attitude. Its fifth single, “(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party)” became an MTV staple and the party anthem of the 1980s. The Beasties’ follow up, 1989’s Paul’s Boutique was a critically loved masterwork of sampling. In the 1990s, they became elder statesmen of the genre, scoring monster hits (“Sabotage”, “Intergalatic”) while speaking out about social and political issues such as the Tibetan Freedom Concerts. In 2007, the Beasties released The Mix-Up, a post-punk instrumental album further showcasing their boundless originality."
Current Induction Chances: 82%


Chic "was a pioneering New York jazz-funk group led by Nile Rodgers on guitar, Bernard Edwards on bass and Tony Thompson on drums. Chic brought refined musicianship and rhythmic innovation to 1970s disco, and also laid the foundation for hip hop, with their song “Good Times” providing the music for the groundbreaking hit “Rapper’s Delight.” Chic created some of the disco era’s classic songs such as “Dance, Dance, Dance (Yowsah, Yowsah, Yowsah)” and “Le Freak.” Rodgers and Edwards went on to write and produce some of the ’80s’ biggest pop songs for Madonna, David Bowie, Mick Jagger, Diana Ross, Sister Sledge, and others."
Current Induction Chances: 54%


Leonard Cohen "With the 1966 release of In My Life by Judy Collins, containing Leonard Cohen’s “Suzanne” and “Dress Rehearsal Rag,” Cohen became a folk rock icon of the singer songwriter movement. Already an acclaimed poet and novelist in his native Canada, Cohen moved to New York in 1967 and released his classic album Songs of Leonard Cohen on Columbia Records. Its music launched Leonard Cohen into the highest and most influential echelon of songwriters. Cohen’s elegiac work is widely used in film and covered by artists from Jeff Buckley to Bono to Bob Dylan to R.E.M. As Kurt Cobain said, 'Give me a Leonard Cohen afterworld so I can sigh eternally.'"
Current Induction Chances: 64%


The Dave Clark Five "topped the UK charts in 1965 with their iconic pop song “Glad All Over.” Thundering production set the DC5 apart. Their slick melodic sensibility masked their boom factor: The DC5 were the loudest group in the U.K. until the advent of The Who. Drummer, songwriter and manager Dave Clark provided a perfect foundation for Mike Smith’s soulful vocals. Reaching the Top Forty 17 times in just three years, with more appearances on the Ed Sullivan show than the Beatles or the Rolling Stones, the DC5 were an enormous pop phenomenon before disbanding in 1970. The Dave Clark Five have sold more than 50 million records worldwide to date."
Current Induction Chances: 42%


Madonna "Doors opened wide for Madonna Louise Ciccone in 1982, after five years as a singer and dancer on New York City’s competitive club circuit. She signed with Sire Records (her label for the next 14 years) where her idiosyncratic persona exploded onto turntables, dance floors and airwaves and captured the imagination of the first generation of MTV viewers. She went on to become the top female star of the 1980s with seven #1 hits, three #1 albums and seventeen top ten hits in that decade. In addition to molding her public image, Madonna is a meticulous studio craftsperson and completely uninhibited stage performer. From her first #1, 1984’s “Like A Virgin” (produced by Nile Rogers of Chic) to her most recent two year Confessions campaign, Madonna remains one of the most ferociously original artists in music today."
Current Induction Chances: 83%


John Mellencamp "has become a symbol of the hopes, struggles and passions of America’s heartland. As a songwriter, many of his efforts have transcended “hit” status (“Hurts So Good,” “Pink Houses,” “I Need A Lover”) and have entered the cultural vernacular. Mellencamp’s musical heart is in his ballads and rock numbers rooted in late 50s and early 60s rock and roll. His music describes the American experience; the hopes and fears of the common everyman. As co-founder of Farm Aid, Indiana’s favorite son gives voice to issues that might otherwise be ignored, from our disappearing farmlands to the role of race and class in America."
Current Induction Chances: 62%


Donna Summer "Raised in the church, rooted in gospel, LaDonna Andrea Gaines would become Donna Summer, the undisputed “Queen of Disco.” In 1975, “Love To Love You Baby” began a long-term association with Munich-based songwriters and producers Giorgio Moroder and Pete Bellotte. Summer made history from 1979-1980 as the only artist ever to have three consecutive multi disc albums all hit #1: Live and More, Bad Girls and On The Radio. Her first U.S. recorded LP, the self-titled Donna Summer, produced by Quincy Jones in 1982 featured Bruce Springsteen and other notable rock contributors. “She Works Hard For The Money” kept Summer at the top of the charts in 1983, followed by the top 10 hit “This Time I Know It’s Real” in 1989. Endless covers and sampling of her music proves that Summers’ contribution remains compelling and classic."
Current Induction Chances: 73%


The Ventures "defined instrumental guitar rock in the 1960s. Their hits bookended the decade, from 1960’s “Walk Don’t Run” to 1969’s “Hawaii Five-O.” Nokie Edwards’ twang-guitar and the crisp rhythm of Don Wilson, bassist Bob Bogle and drummer Mel Taylor gave every Ventures album their trademark bent note sound. Long admired by other bands like the Beatles (and especially George Harrison), Stephen Stills, Joe Walsh, Aerosmith, and others, The Ventures hit the Billboard chart nearly three dozen times in the 1960s. The transparent stereo mixes enabled guitarists to isolate and learn every riff, an idea that fueled 1965’s essential instruction LP Play Guitar With The Ventures. Founders of surf rock, The Ventures inspired a classic line of Mosrite guitars and have maintained a flourishing touring and recording career for decades, especially in Europe and Japan."
Current Induction Chances: 45%

It trips me out how these reviewers get things wrong. He didn't sample Kraftwerk's song, he re-recorded it from scratch just like Amii Stewart did with "Knock On Wood" or Roger did with "Heard It Through The Grapevine" If he sampled it, he would have been using the actual Kraftwerk record as his background music.

They really should get it right because they make him sound like he's no more talented than the shit hoppers of today who don't have the talent to play and have to sample.