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PrintableTimmy84 said: Rodya24 said: Do you the story behind the song? I think the story makes the song much more meaningful. I love both the song and the music video. Yeah I did.  Remember I didn't get the internet until 2002. So when I finally saw what Michael had to say about it, I finally understood it.When I first hear it, I was like: Moscow? Why Moscow?  Then I read about how he came to write the song and then it made sense. | |
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Can anyone post the story of how he wrote SIM? That's a story I'd really like to hear. I've had enough statistics to last me a lifetime. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: Can anyone post the story of how he wrote SIM? That's a story I'd really like to hear. I've had enough statistics to last me a lifetime.
There used to a website that had quotes from MJ on how he wrote his songs. But I cannot seem to find it. Where is bboy87?
From what I remember it went like this: He was on the Dangerous tour in Moscow. It was at the height of the media coverage of the Jordan Chandler accusation. He was in his hotel room. And out of his window, he could see a sea of fans outside. But he felt so lonely. And that is when he wrote the song. | |
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Rodya24 said: Damn. Almost one page through, no MJ bashing. I think this is the first.
It is a shame when that (bashing) happens, but Thriller deserves all the accolades it is getting. It made MTV what it is (for better/worse) and showed the maturation of MJ from the 1970's superstar to 1980's music icon. I remember the Michael Jackson toys from the era and the Viewfinder toy that could let you view the image stills from the Thriller video. Memories.... "Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish." | |
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I don’t think that stranger in Moscow need anything, its perfect as it is, even rod temperton said that this is the best song MJ ever created, I know that you don’t understand anything when you first read or hear the lyrics but that’s the key of its brilliance, you can tell that Mj was talking about loneliness through the lines :
How does it feel How does it feel How does it feel How does it feel When you are alone and cold inside The story behind is that Mj was on the dangerous tour and he was in hotel where the news of child molestation against him were all over the world tv channels , he was so alone and he wrote it in the hotel…….so in the song he says ...here abandoned in my fame . MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P مايكل جاكسون للأبد 1958 | |
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whatsgoingon said: SoulAlive said: I remember when the album was first released.Our local R&B radio station (KSOL) was spotlighting the album and they placed several songs in heavy rotation.The songs were "Baby Be Mine","The Girl Is Mine","Thriller","Beat It" and "The Lady In My Life".These five songs were being played constantly around the clock.
As crazy as this may sound,the album didn't "click" with me immediately.I didn't really go crazy over this album until early 1983 when "Billie Jean" became the second single.That song took me by surprise.It was the coolest thing on the radio back then....haunting,hypnotic and hard to resist.I still think it's the best single of the 80s. What's amazing about this album is....all but two songs became singles.And one of those two songs,"The Lady In My Life",still became a favorite on Quiet Storm radio.That means that there is only one song ("Baby Be Mine") that wasn't widely heard.Something like this could never happen today. It was the same with me, Thriller didn't click with me in the same way as Off The Wall did. Off The Wall click straight away. But as each song was release and the months went by I could actually see the momentum building and this was way before the Thriller video was released. By the time I heard Human Nature I knew this album would be a classic. Same here  After a certain point,you could tell that this album was gonna be a classic.I think the Motown 25th performance of "Billie Jean" was the turning point.After that awesome performance,sales of the album went through the roof.Everybody officially became a Michael Jackson fan,lol. | |
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Timmy84 said: midnightmover said: This really has nothing to do with my post. I'm talking about distinctive elements in Mike's production that distinguish it. There is nothing distinctive in the arrangement of "Money". Who cares if it was new to him? The Rodney Jerkins beats on Invincible were new to him too. What does that have to do with him having a distinctive sound? [Edited 12/2/07 9:45am] For some reason the music of "Money" reminded me of one of his songs from "Bad". He just never "rapped" before, that was the difference... well... I wouldn't necessarily call "Money" a "rap" song, it sounded more "spoken word" than anything else but Wikipedia called it a "rap" song.  So the only thing unique was Michael speaking the lyrics rather than singing it. And Invincible was so 1999 but I still enjoyed some of the songs on there. And of course he'd already done that on "Dangerous" one year after Madonna did it on "Justify My Love". “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Best pop album of the 80's, hands down   | |
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seeingvoices12 said: I don’t think that stranger in Moscow need anything, its perfect as it is, even rod temperton said that this is the best song MJ ever created, I know that you don’t understand anything when you first read or hear the lyrics but that’s the key of its brilliance, you can tell that Mj was talking about loneliness through the lines :
How does it feel How does it feel How does it feel How does it feel When you are alone and cold inside The story behind is that Mj was on the dangerous tour and he was in hotel where the news of child molestation against him were all over the world tv channels , he was so alone and he wrote it in the hotel…….so in the song he says ...here abandoned in my fame . I love this song! I think next to Billie Jean, it is his most revealing song lyrically. | |
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Rodya24 said: seeingvoices12 said: I don’t think that stranger in Moscow need anything, its perfect as it is, even rod temperton said that this is the best song MJ ever created, I know that you don’t understand anything when you first read or hear the lyrics but that’s the key of its brilliance, you can tell that Mj was talking about loneliness through the lines :
How does it feel How does it feel How does it feel How does it feel When you are alone and cold inside The story behind is that Mj was on the dangerous tour and he was in hotel where the news of child molestation against him were all over the world tv channels , he was so alone and he wrote it in the hotel…….so in the song he says ...here abandoned in my fame . I love this song! I think next to Billie Jean, it is his most revealing song lyrically. Yeah and Leave me alone would be the third. | |
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JoeTyler said: Rodya24 said: I love this song! I think next to Billie Jean, it is his most revealing song lyrically. Yeah and Leave me alone would be the third.I think it is incredibly revealing that none of his best songs (written by him) are about love. They are either about loneliness, fame, or paranoia. | |
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Rodya24 said: Timmy84 said: More promotion, more commercial push, the "moonwalk", the videos, all of that played an important role in "Thriller"'s sales. Michael released "Off the Wall" with sheer determination to prove himself and he did, it "just wasn't good enough" for him, that's why he went over the tilt with "Thriller". I also read that MJ created Thriller specifically with the goal of making it the best-selling album in the world. What determination! What drive! So many things provoked him to make the album: -The Grammy Awards in 1980: He was pigeonholed in the catergories and only won one. -Rolling Stone basically telling him that although he did appear on the cover back in 1971, he simply wasn't cover worthy at the time(1979-1980) -Even though OTW was the best selling black album of all time and showcased him as an adult, people still saw him as little Michael who sang "Never Can Say Goodbye" -He was tired of being ignored "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Rodya24 said: JoeTyler said: Yeah and Leave me alone would be the third.I think it is incredibly revealing that none of his best songs (written by him) are about love. They are either about loneliness, fame, or paranoia. Absolutey true. | |
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wow, Bowie & MJ...that pic made my day | |
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Yeah, and Bette Midler and Cher! Who is that blonde woman? Is that Olivia Newton John? I'm not too familiar with her! | |
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Ok whoever said that you can't "hear" MJ's musical influence in today's artist must have not heard of Ne-yo, Robin Thicke and that little loser named Justin Timberlake.
And yes, for the most part Thriller should get all of the attention that it deserves. In my opinion it's the most perfect album ever made from start to finish. [Edited 12/2/07 15:59pm] | |
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Nicoleluvsmjj84 said: Ok whoever said that you can't "hear" MJ's musical influence in today's artist must have not heard of Ne-yo, Robin Thicke and that little loser named Justin Timberlake.
And yes, for the most part Thriller should get all of the attention that it deserves. In my opinion it's the most perfect album ever made from start to finish. [Edited 12/2/07 15:59pm] Thriller is amazing. | |
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Nicoleluvsmjj84 said: In my opinion it's the most perfect album ever made from start to finish.
Well, maybe there should be a qualifier here like "80s pop album" because there are a lot of perfect albums worth sussing out. Don't believe all the hype. | |
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Cinnie said: Nicoleluvsmjj84 said: In my opinion it's the most perfect album ever made from start to finish.
Well, maybe there should be a qualifier here like "80s pop album" because there are a lot of perfect albums worth sussing out. Don't believe all the hype. Well, in her defense, she did write "In my opinion." | |
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Rodya24 said: Cinnie said: Well, maybe there should be a qualifier here like "80s pop album" because there are a lot of perfect albums worth sussing out. Don't believe all the hype. Well, in her defense, she did write "In my opinion." Her name is also "Nicole luvs mjj" so I assume she isn't broadening her listening horizons. It's OK to check out other artists! | |
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Cinnie said: Rodya24 said: Well, in her defense, she did write "In my opinion." Her name is also "Nicole luvs mjj" so I assume she isn't broadening her listening horizons. It's OK to check out other artists! She loves Prince as well! That is what she wrote some time ago. | |
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Rodya24 said: Cinnie said: Her name is also "Nicole luvs mjj" so I assume she isn't broadening her listening horizons. It's OK to check out other artists! She loves Prince as well! That is what she wrote some time ago. Cool! I probably assumed too much then. Peace Nicole! | |
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Nicoleluvsmjj84 said: Ok whoever said that you can't "hear" MJ's musical influence in today's artist must have not heard of Ne-yo, Robin Thicke and that little loser named Justin Timberlake.
And yes, for the most part Thriller should get all of the attention that it deserves. In my opinion it's the most perfect album ever made from start to finish. [Edited 12/2/07 15:59pm] well your'e totally right on that. every track on thriller is a fucking killer track. absolutely perfect and timeless. the only track that is the weakest is The Girls is mine. and thats only because its got Paul Mcartney on it. Still, 100 millions, i bet Mcartney's testicles dropped when he saw all them sales in the 80s kill everybody elses. | |
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Cinnie said: Rodya24 said: Well, in her defense, she did write "In my opinion." Her name is also "Nicole luvs mjj" so I assume she isn't broadening her listening horizons. It's OK to check out other artists! First off if I didn't listen to other artists why would I be on a Prince board? LMAO Second of all, although MJ is #1 in my music book, I do very well listen to other artists. Don't get it twisted I love real music from the past unlike today's crappy music. But I'll say it again, Thriller in my opinion is a perfect album from start to finish. [Edited 12/2/07 18:36pm] [Edited 12/2/07 18:38pm] | |
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Cinnie said: Rodya24 said: She loves Prince as well! That is what she wrote some time ago. Cool! I probably assumed too much then. Peace Nicole! Ok we cool. lol | |
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Nicoleluvsmjj84 said: Cinnie said: Cool! I probably assumed too much then. Peace Nicole! Ok we cool. lol my bad lol | |
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First CD I ever bought. Really connected with Wacko, I thought he was a genius. I was too young to be part of the Thriller era, when he was the coolest dude on the planet. All I got was the Bad era, when he was the wimpiest gang member in the world. Oh well. Thriller FTW   I'm afraid of Americans. I'm afraid of the world. | |
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spacedolphin said: First CD I ever bought.
I've heard that a lot. First purchase for a lot of people.. it's like he broke ground for the recording industry just by teaching people how to be music consumers. | |
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Nicoleluvsmjj84 said: Cinnie said: Her name is also "Nicole luvs mjj" so I assume she isn't broadening her listening horizons. It's OK to check out other artists! First off if I didn't listen to other artists why would I be on a Prince board? LMAO Second of all, although MJ is #1 in my music book, I do very well listen to other artists. Don't get it twisted I love real music from the past unlike today's crappy music. But I'll say it again, Thriller in my opinion is a perfect album from start to finish. [Edited 12/2/07 18:36pm] [Edited 12/2/07 18:38pm] Hey, Nicole. I think I remembered you from MJJF.  [Edited 12/2/07 20:25pm] | |
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