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Reply #30 posted 11/27/07 9:41am

Rodya24

VoicesCarry said:

lastdecember said:



Well Mariah has about 22 tracks and they are cutting it down to 10-12 at this point, someone did hear a new track snippet at one of her perfume launches recently. Its all up to the labels financials at that point, if it comes out before the end of February than all the marketing done early on gets lumped into 2007's fiscal reports, if they wait till March or April than it can be a fresh start for 2008. Def Jam/Universal may want to wait till 2008's fiscal year starts March 1st since sales were down 20-30% this year across the board. I dont doubt what Janet has at this point its more about what the label will undertake, these are two projects that have to be win-win for them, Janet is coming off a major slump in sales and its her lable debut and for Mariah this is then end of her contract at Def Jam as this is her 3rd release with them, so im sure they want this to do well and re-sign her.


I've heard zero buzz on the Mariah project. I guess I got the unfinished vibe (as with Madonna) when it was pushed back. She's been working on it for a while now.


Well, she never seems to shut up about it while promoting her new perfume.
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Reply #31 posted 11/27/07 9:41am

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

Hey, hey, hey!! Hold on now!! I'm down for Janet making a great comeback and all but Late February is all about the BADU!! Erykah Badu, that is! Don't get it twisted!!

cool



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Reply #32 posted 11/27/07 9:43am

midnightmover

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Uhhh, we're not talking about a singer-songwriter here like Joni Mitchell or Prince. It's not a question of what she can offer, but what her team can offer. If they've got any sense, they'll minimise Janet's input as much as possible. But just don't expect the credits to tell you that. wink



First and foremost, what's going to redeem Janet in my eyes is feeling that she is actually engaged in her own career. And I've felt that less and less starting with All For You. From material selection, to interviews, to tours, etc. The team can't do that for her. She has to act like SHE cares, before I can do the same. And I really do want to.

I feel kind of the opposite. After Rene left I feel Janet took over much more of the songwriting, at least lyrically, than before, and it was a change for the worse. Unfortunately, this coincided with Jma & Lewis losing their edge production-wise which made a double whammy of shitness. As for Janet's enthusiasm I can assure you it's linked directly to her success. If the team is on point and getting results you'll see her get enthused again. It's when things aren't going well that her enthusiasm wanes.
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Reply #33 posted 11/27/07 9:43am

VoicesCarry

Rodya24 said:

VoicesCarry said:



I've heard zero buzz on the Mariah project. I guess I got the unfinished vibe (as with Madonna) when it was pushed back. She's been working on it for a while now.


Well, she never seems to shut up about it while promoting her new perfume.


I walked by one of the perfume displays and it was so atrocious that I suppose I blocked out all promo/press for the perfume. It was seriously her lying naked in a puddle somewhere with a lot of purple floating about, and then they had a few TV screens up with a video playing and her doing the whisper-voice thingy.
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Reply #34 posted 11/27/07 9:44am

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

Hey, hey, hey!! Hold on now!! I'm down for Janet making a great comeback and all but Late February is all about the BADU!! Erykah Badu, that is! Don't get it twisted!!

cool

You should've seen Erykah on Okayplayer. Homegirl was pissed off! lol
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #35 posted 11/27/07 9:44am

Rodya24

VoicesCarry said:

Rodya24 said:



Well, she never seems to shut up about it while promoting her new perfume.


I walked by one of the perfume displays and it was so atrocious that I suppose I blocked out all promo/press for the perfume. It was seriously her lying naked in a puddle somewhere with a lot of purple floating about, and then they had a few TV screens up with a video playing and her doing the whisper-voice thingy.



evillol

But seriously, you are not missing anything by blocking out her promotion.
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Reply #36 posted 11/27/07 9:45am

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VoicesCarry said:

Rodya24 said:



Well, she never seems to shut up about it while promoting her new perfume.


I walked by one of the perfume displays and it was so atrocious that I suppose I blocked out all promo/press for the perfume. It was seriously her lying naked in a puddle somewhere with a lot of purple floating about, and then they had a few TV screens up with a video playing and her doing the whisper-voice thingy.

SHE WAS NAKED?!

runs down to Macy's to investigate

lol
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Reply #37 posted 11/27/07 9:45am

Timmy84

VoicesCarry said:

Rodya24 said:



Well, she never seems to shut up about it while promoting her new perfume.


I walked by one of the perfume displays and it was so atrocious that I suppose I blocked out all promo/press for the perfume. It was seriously her lying naked in a puddle somewhere with a lot of purple floating about, and then they had a few TV screens up with a video playing and her doing the whisper-voice thingy.


Annoying, isn't it? lol
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Reply #38 posted 11/27/07 9:46am

VoicesCarry

bboy87 said:

VoicesCarry said:



I walked by one of the perfume displays and it was so atrocious that I suppose I blocked out all promo/press for the perfume. It was seriously her lying naked in a puddle somewhere with a lot of purple floating about, and then they had a few TV screens up with a video playing and her doing the whisper-voice thingy.

SHE WAS NAKED?!

runs down to Macy's to investigate

lol


lol If you're in Canada it's at Sears. This was at the Eaton's Centre in Toronto and they always do big displays for perfumes that you don't see in other stores.
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Reply #39 posted 11/27/07 9:46am

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

VoicesCarry said:



I walked by one of the perfume displays and it was so atrocious that I suppose I blocked out all promo/press for the perfume. It was seriously her lying naked in a puddle somewhere with a lot of purple floating about, and then they had a few TV screens up with a video playing and her doing the whisper-voice thingy.

SHE WAS NAKED?!

runs down to Macy's to investigate

lol


Yeah that was the only good part, you could see a hint of nothing when you checked below her navel and then she laid in the "water" with her butt popping out or at least the profile of it. razz lol
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Reply #40 posted 11/27/07 9:49am

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VoicesCarry said:



I've heard zero buzz on the Mariah project. I guess I got the unfinished vibe (as with Madonna) when it was pushed back. She's been working on it for a while now.


Well, she never seems to shut up about it while promoting her new perfume.


Yeah even MIMI was pushed back, ive heard people say their albums done and even people have heard tracks and the thing never comes out. Its all timing and spacing with labels, they could all be ready to come out but the label decides who and what comes out first. As far as Janet coming out well when i see it i will believe it, just because a track goes to radio January 4th doesnt mean a thing, if the track fails then the album gets bumped back, the label is not going to put the record out to "deaf ears" they have too much invested.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #41 posted 11/27/07 11:09am

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wow, her getting professionals? sounds promising.
Space for sale...
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Reply #42 posted 11/27/07 11:18am

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sosgemini said:

wow, her getting professionals? sounds promising.



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I hope this a big album for Janet... I really want to see her tour again
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Reply #43 posted 11/27/07 11:19am

SexyBeautifulO
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bboy87 said:

SexyBeautifulOne said:

Hey, hey, hey!! Hold on now!! I'm down for Janet making a great comeback and all but Late February is all about the BADU!! Erykah Badu, that is! Don't get it twisted!!

cool

You should've seen Erykah on Okayplayer. Homegirl was pissed off! lol


Oooo! Dang, I missed it! What happened?
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Reply #44 posted 11/27/07 11:31am

Aside

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wow, her getting professionals? sounds promising.




do you mean "getting professionals" in the Wendy Williams sense? eek
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Reply #45 posted 11/27/07 11:53am

DawnD

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does this mean janet will be promoted everywhere like beyonce, justin and nelly were in 2006? Cause she deserves it and I hope she puts out a good album


I agree, alphastreet! And, what's up?!?!? biggrin cool

Can't wait for the new stuff!
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Reply #46 posted 11/27/07 11:59am

DawnD

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A new album? Already? I find it hard to believe that she didn't have much to give after the 3 year break between All For You and DamitaJo or the 2.5 year break between DamitaJo and 20 Y.O. What on earth could she possibly offer now, after a year and a half. She needs to go away for awhile, regroup, prioritize, figure out something to sing about, etc. The less time between albums, the worse they get. confused

But here's hoping for the best smile

Uhhh, we're not talking about a singer-songwriter here like Joni Mitchell or Prince. It's not a question of what she can offer, but what her team can offer. If they've got any sense, they'll minimise Janet's input as much as possible. But just don't expect the credits to tell you that. wink


Like I've said before, you don't dig her it's all good! Janet should do Janet reguardless of what ANYONE thinks!
Folks do have the option not to listen to her material.
As for me, I look forward to her shit! Bring it, JANET!!! cool wink
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Reply #47 posted 11/27/07 12:01pm

DawnD

SexyBeautifulOne said:

Hey, hey, hey!! Hold on now!! I'm down for Janet making a great comeback and all but Late February is all about the BADU!! Erykah Badu, that is! Don't get it twisted!!

cool

wink Get yo' Badu on! I love Miss Erykah Badu! But, I loves'me some Janet more! biggrin
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Reply #48 posted 11/27/07 12:07pm

DawnD

midnightmover said:

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First and foremost, what's going to redeem Janet in my eyes is feeling that she is actually engaged in her own career. And I've felt that less and less starting with All For You. From material selection, to interviews, to tours, etc. The team can't do that for her. She has to act like SHE cares, before I can do the same. And I really do want to.

I feel kind of the opposite. After Rene left I feel Janet took over much more of the songwriting, at least lyrically, than before, and it was a change for the worse. Unfortunately, this coincided with Jma & Lewis losing their edge production-wise which made a double whammy of shitness. As for Janet's enthusiasm I can assure you it's linked directly to her success. If the team is on point and getting results you'll see her get enthused again. It's when things aren't going well that her enthusiasm wanes.


Aww, break out the violins. Break em' out!
Can Janet fans at least be alittle happy that she's put forth effort to bring forth some new music? All artists' don't have a message in their lyrics all of the time! Hell, even Prince doesn't?
Some said she should get rid of Jam and Lewis. Get some new blood to produce her music. Fact of the matter is, no matter what Janet does or doesn't do allot of folks won't be satisfied. But, hey theirs always other artists with messages in the lyrics, those that write, produce, compose, and arrange their own music and don't talk about jack shit in their lyrics. Enjoy who you will.
Poor woman can't catch a break for shit!
I for one, maybe a few others feel the same as I do am very happy to receive good news about Janet.
Definitely looking forward to the new album and single. smile
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Reply #49 posted 11/27/07 12:09pm

DawnD

sosgemini said:

wow, her getting professionals? sounds promising.


Yeah. Maybe some others should try it.
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Reply #50 posted 11/27/07 12:10pm

DawnD

banks said:

sosgemini said:

wow, her getting professionals? sounds promising.



biggrin

I hope this a big album for Janet... I really want to see her tour again


She's suppose to be propping for a world tour.
Waits for the negativity to start.... confused
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Reply #51 posted 11/27/07 12:16pm

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midnightmover said:


I feel kind of the opposite. After Rene left I feel Janet took over much more of the songwriting, at least lyrically, than before, and it was a change for the worse. Unfortunately, this coincided with Jma & Lewis losing their edge production-wise which made a double whammy of shitness. As for Janet's enthusiasm I can assure you it's linked directly to her success. If the team is on point and getting results you'll see her get enthused again. It's when things aren't going well that her enthusiasm wanes.


Aww, break out the violins. Break em' out!
Can Janet fans at least be alittle happy that she's put forth effort to bring forth some new music?



once bitten, twice shy. or in this case, twice bitten, thrice shy. confused i'd like to get excited about it, but for this one, i'm taking a wait and see attitude. i'm tired of being disappointed by Jacksons. if they do what's needed, i'll be there for them when it's time. but i'm done cheer-leading and getting my hopes up.
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Reply #52 posted 11/27/07 12:20pm

Scorpion

Who else is signed under these people?
tho' I battled blind
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memories mar my mind
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Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
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Reply #53 posted 11/27/07 12:27pm

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Who else is signed under these people?



William Morris? it's the biggest, so actually most of them.
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Reply #54 posted 11/27/07 12:28pm

VoicesCarry

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Who else is signed under these people?


?uestlove
50 Cent
A Tribe Called Quest
Akon
Alicia Keys
Big Boi of Outkast
Blackalicious
Bobby Valentino
Bubba Sparxxx
Cee Lo
Chamillionaire
Ciara
Common
Craig David
Cypress Hill
D-12
Damian Jr. Gong Marley
Dilated Peoples
DJ Shadow
Dwele
Eminem
Emily King
Eric Benet
Erykah Badu
Fabolous
Floetry
Gnarls Barkley
Goapele
Ice Cube
J Holiday
Jamiroquai
Jennifer Hudson
Jill Scott
Johnta Austin
Kanye West
Keyshia Cole
Kindred the Family Soul
Lil Mama
LL Cool J
Ludacris
Lupe Fiasco
Lyfe Jennings
Monica
Nas
Nelly
Nina Sky
Q-Tip
Outkast
Queen Latifah
Rihanna
The Roots
Ruben Studdard
Sean "Diddy" Combs
Sean Paul
Snoop Dogg
Soulja Boy
T-Pain
Three 6 Mafia
T.I.
Toni Braxton
Trey Songz
Twista
Vivian Green
Wyclef Jean
Young Jeezy
Young Berg
Yung Joc
Ziggy Marley
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Reply #55 posted 11/27/07 12:28pm

lowkey

Aside said:

DawnD said:



Aww, break out the violins. Break em' out!
Can Janet fans at least be alittle happy that she's put forth effort to bring forth some new music?



once bitten, twice shy. or in this case, twice bitten, thrice shy. confused i'd like to get excited about it, but for this one, i'm taking a wait and see attitude. i'm tired of being disappointed by Jacksons. if they do what's needed, i'll be there for them when it's time. but i'm done cheer-leading and getting my hopes up.


i havent been disappointed yet, i enjoyed both damita jo and 20 yo but im one of those rare fans who dont judge the music by the sales.by the way both those albums were better imo than all for you
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Reply #56 posted 11/27/07 12:29pm

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Mark my words...Madonna's new one will flop, Mariah's will underperform, and JJ's will easily outsell DJ and 20 YO (though that's no huge feat).
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #57 posted 11/27/07 12:29pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Aside said:

A new album? Already? I find it hard to believe that she didn't have much to give after the 3 year break between All For You and DamitaJo or the 2.5 year break between DamitaJo and 20 Y.O. What on earth could she possibly offer now, after a year and a half. She needs to go away for awhile, regroup, prioritize, figure out something to sing about, etc. The less time between albums, the worse they get. confused

But here's hoping for the best smile


A new label and a fresh start without Jimmy & Terry. And LA Reid as executive producer.

I'm kind of excited about LA producing. I have been bored with her music for quite a while now. B-O-R-E-D
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Reply #58 posted 11/27/07 12:31pm

Aside

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lowkey said:

Aside said:




once bitten, twice shy. or in this case, twice bitten, thrice shy. confused i'd like to get excited about it, but for this one, i'm taking a wait and see attitude. i'm tired of being disappointed by Jacksons. if they do what's needed, i'll be there for them when it's time. but i'm done cheer-leading and getting my hopes up.


i havent been disappointed yet, i enjoyed both damita jo and 20 yo but im one of those rare fans who dont judge the music by the sales.by the way both those albums were better imo than all for you



i don't judge music by its sales either. i judge it by how it sounds. and those are 2 of the worst albums i've ever heard by a pop superstar who should know better.
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Reply #59 posted 11/27/07 12:32pm

Scorpion

Aside said:

Scorpion said:

Who else is signed under these people?



William Morris? it's the biggest, so actually most of them.


Really? eek lol...oops.
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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