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New Edition: the solo years 1988-1994 I was making a compilation for my brother of memorable songs from Bobby Brown, Bell Biv DeVoe, Johnny Gill and Ralph Tresvant (it took three discs) and I was thinking it was amazing what each New Edition offshoot accomplished on its own. Each one had at least a platinum album and a No. 1 single, which is incredibly rare in contemporary music. Moreover, each member arguably had greater crossover success individually than collectively. [Edited 11/23/07 14:12pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! | |
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Wasn't Bobby solo in 86, it should be 86-94 if you wanna include "Girlfriend" and "Girl Next Door?" PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: Wasn't Bobby solo in 86, it should be 86-94 if you wanna include "Girlfriend" and "Girl Next Door?"
Yep and Bobby had his first number-one Billboard (R&B) single in 1986. As far as I'm concerned, Bobby and BBD are the only ones to have a number-one pop hit, or is it just Bobby? | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: Wasn't Bobby solo in 86, it should be 86-94 if you wanna include "Girlfriend" and "Girl Next Door?"
Yeah, Bobby Brown left New Edition in 1986 and "Girlfriend" was a No. 1 single. However, he hit his stride and established his own identity with the "Don't Be Cruel" album. The reason I mentioned 1988 was that was around the time the N.E. clan (including Brown) stopped sounding IMO "kiddie-oriented," thanks to the "Heartbreak" album and Brown's "Don't Be Cruel." [Edited 11/23/07 14:39pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! | |
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Timmy84 said: Yep and Bobby had his first number-one Billboard (R&B) single in 1986. As far as I'm concerned, Bobby and BBD are the only ones to have a number-one pop hit, or is it just Bobby?
Uh, who was talking about pop No. 1 hits? FWIW, every New Edition offshoot had at least one top five pop hit. Any way, think about what each act did -- it's rare that a group has every member release a solo album and had the success Bobby Brown, Bell Biv DeVoe, Johnny Gill and Ralph Tresvant had. THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! | |
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Najee said: Timmy84 said: Yep and Bobby had his first number-one Billboard (R&B) single in 1986. As far as I'm concerned, Bobby and BBD are the only ones to have a number-one pop hit, or is it just Bobby?
Uh, who was talking about pop No. 1 hits? FWIW, every New Edition offshoot had at least one top five pop hit. Any way, think about what each act did -- it's rare that a group has every member release a solo album and had the success Bobby Brown, Bell Biv DeVoe, Johnny Gill and Ralph Tresvant had. I know that, bruh. I meant the only one that had a "crossover No. 1", ya know? You know, "I'm just saying". [Edited 11/23/07 14:58pm] | |
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One of the few pop or R&B group had a moderately successful to very successful solo career. Few groups have achieved this before or since. The best part was that each solo project had something for everybody. Johnny and Ralph headed up the silky bedroom jams, Bell-Biv-DeVoe were doing their Hip-hop thing. And at that point Bobby was the king of New Jack Swing (although this is debateable).
This reminds me of elementary school....I loved: Sensitivity Stone Cold Gentleman When Will I See You Smile Again? (One of my favorites) BBD (I thought it was me) Do Me Poison The entire Don't Be Cruel album (a masterpiece) Stroke (Rub You the Right Way) (I wish Johnny had done more uptempo songs) My My My Fairweather Friend (underrated in my opinion) Money, can't buy you love (from the Mo' Money Soundtrack) Get Away (also underrated IMO) Good Enough Humpin' Around [Edited 11/23/07 15:03pm] | |
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Here is the compilation I put together for my brother:
NEW EDITION: THE SOLO YEARS 1988-1994 DISC ONE: Cruel prelude Bell Biv DeVoe "Word to the Mutha!" (WBBD - Bootcity version) Johnny Gill "Rub You the Right Way" (DJ Eddie F. 12" version) Bobby Brown "Humpin' Around" (extended version) Ralph Tresvant "Money Can't Buy You Love" Bobby Brown "Don't Be Cruel" Bell Biv DeVoe "Poison" (extended version) My, My, My reprise Bobby Brown "Roni" Johnny Gill "Giving My All to You" Ralph Tresvant "Do What I Gotta Do" (BW's Groove version) Bell Biv DeVoe "Something in Your Eyes" Johnny Gill "My, My, My" Bobby Brown "Rock Wit'cha" (remix version) DISC TWO: Ralph Tresvant "Sensitivity" (extended version) Johnny Gill "Fairweather Friend" (extended version) Bobby Brown "Every Little Step" (extended remix) Bell Biv DeVoe "B.B.D. (I Thought It Was Me)" (remix version) Johnny Gill and Shabba Ranks "Slow and Sexy" Bobby Brown "Get Away" (extended version) Ralph Tresvant "When I Need Somebody" Johnny Gill "Let's Just Run Away" Bell Biv DeVoe "When Will I See You Smile Again?" (extended remix version) Johnny Gill "I'm Still Waiting" Bobby Brown "On Our Own" (extended version) Ralph Tresvant "Stone Cold Gentleman" (remix radio version) Bell Biv DeVoe "Gangsta" DISC THREE: Bell Biv DeVoe "Let Me Know Something?!?" (WBBD - Bootcity version) Bell Biv DeVoe "She's Dope!" (WBBD - Bootcity version) Bobby Brown "My Prerogative" Johnny Gill "Wrap My Body Tight" (Jazzie B. remix version) Ralph Tresvant "Yo, Baby, Yo" (extended version) Ralph Tresvant "Who's the Mack?" Bobby Brown "I'll Be Good to You" Bell Biv DeVoe "Do Me!" (remix video version) Johnny Gill "The Floor" Bobby Brown "That's the Way Love Is" Rizzo's interlude Bell Biv DeVoe "I Do Need You" (WBBD - Bootcity version) Bobby Brown "Good Enough" (extended Jeep version) Johnny Gill "There U Go" Ralph Tresvant "Last Night" Johnny Gill "Quiet Time to Play" [Edited 11/23/07 15:23pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! | |
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Here's New Edition's run of number-ones group and solo over the years:
NEW EDITION: *1983: "Candy Girl" (also #1 UK pop) *1984: "Cool It Now" *1984: "Mr. Telephone Man" *1989: "Can You Stand the Rain?" *1996: "Hit Me Off" BOBBY BROWN: *1986: "Girlfriend" *1988: "Don't Be Cruel" *1988: "My Prerogative" *1989: "Every Little Step" *1989: "On Our Own" *1992: "Humpin' Around" BBD (Bell-Biv-DeVoe): *1990: "Poison" *1991: "I Thought It Was Me (BBD)" *1991: "Word to the Mutha" RALPH TRESVANT: *1990: "Sensitivity" JOHNNY GILL: *1989: "Where Do We Go From Here?" (w/Stacy Lattisaw) *1990: "Rub You the Right Way" *1990: "My, My, My" *1991: "Wrap My Body Tight" *1997: "Your Body" (w/L(eVert)S(weat)G(ill)) So that's, what, 22 Billboard number-ones between them? [Edited 11/23/07 15:24pm] | |
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Lovesexy82 said: One of the few pop or R&B group had a moderately successful to very successful solo career. Few groups have achieved this before or since. The best part was that each solo project had something for everybody. Johnny and Ralph headed up the silky bedroom jams, Bell-Biv-DeVoe were doing their Hip-hop thing. And at that point Bobby was the king of New Jack Swing (although this is debateable).
This reminds me of elementary school....I loved: Sensitivity Stone Cold Gentleman When Will I See You Smile Again? (One of my favorites) BBD (I thought it was me) Do Me Poison The entire Don't Be Cruel album (a masterpiece) Stroke (Rub You the Right Way) (I wish Johnny had done more uptempo songs) My My My Fairweather Friend (underrated in my opinion) Money, can't buy you love (from the Mo' Money Soundtrack) Get Away (also underrated IMO) Good Enough Humpin' Around [Edited 11/23/07 15:03pm] New Edition were the kings of new jack and R&B no matter if it was group/solo! [Edited 11/23/07 15:13pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: Here's New Edition's run of number-ones group and solo over the years:
NEW EDITION: *1983: "Candy Girl" (also #1 UK pop) *1984: "Cool It Now" *1984: "Mr. Telephone Man" *1989: "Can You Stand the Rain?" *1996: "Hit Me Off" BOBBY BROWN: *1986: "Girlfriend" *1988: "Don't Be Cruel" *1988: "My Prerogative" *1989: "Every Little Step" *1989: "On Our Own" *1992: "Humpin' Around" BBD (Bell-Biv-DeVoe): *1990: "Poison" *1990: "Do Me" *1991: "Word to the Mutha" RALPH TRESVANT: *1990: "Sensitivity" JOHNNY GILL: *1989: "Where Do We Go From Here?" (w/Stacy Lattisaw) *1990: "Rub You the Right Way" *1990: "My, My, My" *1991: "Wrap My Body Tight" *1997: "Your Body" (w/L(eVert)S(weat)G(ill)) So that's, what, 22 Billboard number-ones between them? Actually, Bell Biv DeVoe's "B.B.D. (I Thought It Was Me)" was a No. 1 single, not "Word to the Mutha!" Not only that, but the list doesn't include several songs that just missed reaching No. 1 (Ralph Tresvant's "Stone Cold Gentleman" and "Do What I Gotta Do," Johnny Gill's "Fairweather Friend," Bobby Brown's "Rock Wit'cha" and "Roni," Bell Biv DeVoe's "When Will I See You Smile Again?"). [Edited 11/23/07 15:22pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! | |
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Najee said: Timmy84 said: Here's New Edition's run of number-ones group and solo over the years:
NEW EDITION: *1983: "Candy Girl" (also #1 UK pop) *1984: "Cool It Now" *1984: "Mr. Telephone Man" *1989: "Can You Stand the Rain?" *1996: "Hit Me Off" BOBBY BROWN: *1986: "Girlfriend" *1988: "Don't Be Cruel" *1988: "My Prerogative" *1989: "Every Little Step" *1989: "On Our Own" *1992: "Humpin' Around" BBD (Bell-Biv-DeVoe): *1990: "Poison" *1990: "Do Me" *1991: "Word to the Mutha" RALPH TRESVANT: *1990: "Sensitivity" JOHNNY GILL: *1989: "Where Do We Go From Here?" (w/Stacy Lattisaw) *1990: "Rub You the Right Way" *1990: "My, My, My" *1991: "Wrap My Body Tight" *1997: "Your Body" (w/L(eVert)S(weat)G(ill)) So that's, what, 22 Billboard number-ones between them? Actually, Bell Biv DeVoe's "B.B.D. (I Thought It Was Me)" was a No. 1 single, not "Word to the Mutha!" Not only that, but the list doesn't include several songs that just missed reaching No. 1 (Ralph Tresvant's "Stone Cold Gentleman" and "Do What I Gotta Do," Johnny Gill's "Fairweather Friend," Bobby Brown's "Roni," Bell Biv DeVoe's "When Will I See You Smile Again?"). "Do Me" peaked at number four but "Word to the Mutha" did hit #1. [Edited 11/23/07 15:25pm] [Edited 11/23/07 15:25pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: "Do Me" peaked at number four but "Word to the Mutha" did hit #1.
According to Billboard magazine, "Word to the Mutha!" peaked at No. 11 in late 1991. The point I was making is that from the late 1980s to the early 1990s, nearly every single from the New Edition spinoff acts was a top five single on the Billboard R&B Singles charts (generally landing in the top three, if not No. 1). [Edited 11/23/07 15:33pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! | |
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Najee said: Timmy84 said: "Do Me" peaked at number four but "Word to the Mutha" did hit #1.
According to Billboard magazine, "Word to the Mutha!" peaked at No. 11 in late 1991. The point I was making is that from the late 1980s to the early 1990s, nearly every single from the New Edition was a top five single (generally landing in the top three, if not No. 1). Then Billboard's people are funny. Guess you can blame it on All Music because the Billboard chart numbers have that song peaking at number 11 so take it up with Joe Whitburn. | |
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Timmy84 said: Then Billboard's people are funny. Guess you can blame it on All Music because the Billboard chart numbers have that song peaking at number 11 so take it up with Joe Whitburn.
No point being snippy about it. It's not my fault I wasn't in grade school when "Word to the Mutha!" was out as a single (I was in college when it dropped as a single). THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! | |
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I know.
I was ONLY mentioning the "number-ones" though. | |
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Has anyone heard "Supernatural" off the Ghostbusters II soundtrack at all? I never can find that disc!!!! [Edited 11/23/07 17:23pm] Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Najee said: Here is the compilation I put together for my brother:
NEW EDITION: THE SOLO YEARS 1988-1994 DISC ONE: Cruel prelude Bell Biv DeVoe "Word to the Mutha!" (WBBD - Bootcity version) Johnny Gill "Rub You the Right Way" (DJ Eddie F. 12" version) Bobby Brown "Humpin' Around" (extended version) Ralph Tresvant "Money Can't Buy You Love" Bobby Brown "Don't Be Cruel" Bell Biv DeVoe "Poison" (extended version) My, My, My reprise Bobby Brown "Roni" Johnny Gill "Giving My All to You" Ralph Tresvant "Do What I Gotta Do" (BW's Groove version) Bell Biv DeVoe "Something in Your Eyes" Johnny Gill "My, My, My" Bobby Brown "Rock Wit'cha" (remix version) DISC TWO: Ralph Tresvant "Sensitivity" (extended version) Johnny Gill "Fairweather Friend" (extended version) Bobby Brown "Every Little Step" (extended remix) Bell Biv DeVoe "B.B.D. (I Thought It Was Me)" (remix version) Johnny Gill and Shabba Ranks "Slow and Sexy" Bobby Brown "Get Away" (extended version) Ralph Tresvant "When I Need Somebody" Johnny Gill "Let's Just Run Away" Bell Biv DeVoe "When Will I See You Smile Again?" (extended remix version) Johnny Gill "I'm Still Waiting" Bobby Brown "On Our Own" (extended version) Ralph Tresvant "Stone Cold Gentleman" (remix radio version) Bell Biv DeVoe "Gangsta" DISC THREE: Bell Biv DeVoe "Let Me Know Something?!?" (WBBD - Bootcity version) Bell Biv DeVoe "She's Dope!" (WBBD - Bootcity version) Bobby Brown "My Prerogative" Johnny Gill "Wrap My Body Tight" (Jazzie B. remix version) Ralph Tresvant "Yo, Baby, Yo" (extended version) Ralph Tresvant "Who's the Mack?" Bobby Brown "I'll Be Good to You" Bell Biv DeVoe "Do Me!" (remix video version) Johnny Gill "The Floor" Bobby Brown "That's the Way Love Is" Rizzo's interlude Bell Biv DeVoe "I Do Need You" (WBBD - Bootcity version) Bobby Brown "Good Enough" (extended Jeep version) Johnny Gill "There U Go" Ralph Tresvant "Last Night" Johnny Gill "Quiet Time to Play" [Edited 11/23/07 15:23pm] Wow! That's an excellent compilation set Najee. I know your brother will enjoy it. | |
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paisleypark4 said: Has anyone heard "Supernatural" off the Ghostbusters II soundtrack at all? I never can find that disc!!!!
I remember "Supernatural." It sounded similar to the original version of "Crucial," except Johnny Gill had a more prominent part in the vocals. THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! | |
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DarkSideOfBeauty said: Wow! That's an excellent compilation set Najee. I know your brother will enjoy it.
Thank you. The only noticeably missing song is Johnny Gill's duet with Stacy Lattisaw, "Where Do We Go from Here," but that's only because my brother didn't want that song. But I feel I covered all the bases here. [Edited 11/24/07 9:50am] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! | |
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Lovesexy82 said: One of the few pop or R&B group had a moderately successful to very successful solo career. Few groups have achieved this before or since. The best part was that each solo project had something for everybody. Johnny and Ralph headed up the silky bedroom jams, Bell-Biv-DeVoe were doing their Hip-hop thing. And at that point Bobby was the king of New Jack Swing (although this is debateable).
That was the amazing thing -- each splinter act had its own style and none of them were similar to the sound they had collectively as New Edition. Bobby Brown was from the mold of the New Jack Swing sound. Bell Biv DeVoe were basically a hip-hop vocal trio, with the sensibilities of the rap acts. Johnny Gill was straight from the Teddy Pendergrass/Alexander O'Neal school of hardcore singing. Ralph Tresvant had the mack-daddy smooth style but would bust out a rap occasionally to let the fellows know he was still down with the street vibe. [Edited 11/24/07 12:19pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! | |
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Najee said: DarkSideOfBeauty said: Wow! That's an excellent compilation set Najee. I know your brother will enjoy it.
Thank you. The only noticeably missing song is Johnny Gill's duet with Stacy Lattisaw, "Where Do We Go from Here," but that's only because my brother didn't want that song. But I feel I covered all the bases here. [Edited 11/24/07 9:50am] Yes you did. Good job. | |
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Najee said: Lovesexy82 said: One of the few pop or R&B group had a moderately successful to very successful solo career. Few groups have achieved this before or since. The best part was that each solo project had something for everybody. Johnny and Ralph headed up the silky bedroom jams, Bell-Biv-DeVoe were doing their Hip-hop thing. And at that point Bobby was the king of New Jack Swing (although this is debateable).
That was the amazing thing -- each splinter act had its own style and none of them were similar to the sound they had collectively as New Edition. Bobby Brown was from the mold of the New Jack Swing sound. Bell Biv DeVoe were basically a hip-hop vocal trio, with the sensibilities of the rap acts. Johnny Gill was straight from the Teddy Pendergrass/Alexander O'Neal school of hardcore singing. Ralph Tresvant had the mack-daddy smooth style but would bust out a rap occasionally to let the fellows know he was still down with the street vibe. [Edited 11/24/07 12:19pm] Thus making them a true R&B "supergroup". | |
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