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Reply #60 posted 11/24/07 2:33pm

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Where is the love for Mariah? smile
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Reply #61 posted 11/24/07 2:45pm

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Rodya24 said:

Where is the love for Mariah? smile

The original is TOOOOO good cool
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Reply #62 posted 11/24/07 2:47pm

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Rodya24 said:

Where is the love for Mariah? smile

In my pants!
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Reply #63 posted 11/24/07 3:17pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Rodya24 said:

Where is the love for Mariah? smile

In my pants!

DEEZ NUTS! lol
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Reply #64 posted 11/24/07 6:33pm

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Rodya24 said:

Dewrede said:

Mariah


I am curious: why? smile

Since Dewrede & I appear to be the contrarians here, i'll give you my reasons until he shows back.

I just listened to these songs back-to-back.

The thing that immediately came to mind is that although MJ & Jermaine deliver a very professional performance (especially for their ages at the time), it's hard for me to believe individuals that are 12 & 16 years old respectively truly understand the emotional depths of the lyrics they're singing. (I have similar feelings about certain tunes sung by Stacy Lattisaw).

For example, when a 12 year old MJ sings, "I'll be there to protect you, with an unselfish love that respects you.", the picture that comes to mind is that he's referring to the love of a puppy (maybe a rodent or whale) as opposed to a woman.

It's much more believable on a emotional level being sung by a 22 year old Mariah and a 23 year old Trey Lorenz.

Cutting away all my prior psychological b.s., I simply prefer hearing the voices of Mariah/Trey over MJ/Jermaine in this case.


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Reply #65 posted 11/24/07 7:08pm

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theAudience said:

Rodya24 said:



I am curious: why? smile

Since Dewrede & I appear to be the contrarians here, i'll give you my reasons until he shows back.

I just listened to these songs back-to-back.

The thing that immediately came to mind is that although MJ & Jermaine deliver a very professional performance (especially for their ages at the time), it's hard for me to believe individuals that are 12 & 16 years old respectively truly understand the emotional depths of the lyrics they're singing. (I have similar feelings about certain tunes sung by Stacy Lattisaw).

For example, when a 12 year old MJ sings, "I'll be there to protect you, with an unselfish love that respects you.", the picture that comes to mind is that he's referring to the love of a puppy (maybe a rodent or whale) as opposed to a woman.

It's much more believable on a emotional level being sung by a 22 year old Mariah and a 23 year old Trey Lorenz.

Cutting away all my prior psychological b.s., I simply prefer hearing the voices of Mariah/Trey over MJ/Jermaine in this case.


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I get your point, but the song can be interpreted in many ways to suit the singer. In the case of Jermaine and Michael, especially when they were young, it could be seen as a song about a family member as opposed to a love interest. I have even heard a gospel interpretation of the song.

I like Mariah version too, but like many great, female singers she has a tendency of over singing a song. Whereas in the case of the J5 they just sing it so naturally, yet so beautifully, with out all the vocal somersaults.
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Reply #66 posted 11/24/07 7:11pm

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Reply #67 posted 11/24/07 7:29pm

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whatsgoingon said:


I get your point, but the song can be interpreted in many ways to suit the singer. In the case of Jermaine and Michael, especially when they were young, it could be seen as a song about a family member as opposed to a love interest. I have even heard a gospel interpretation of the song.

I like Mariah version too, but like many great, female singers she has a tendency of over singing a song. Whereas in the case of the J5 they just sing it so naturally, yet so beautifully, with out all the vocal somersaults.

I can appreciate that point of view.

Here's a question for you.
How do you know that Mariah is not singing naturally?
She sounds just like any other song she's sung up to that point in her career.


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Reply #68 posted 11/25/07 8:45am

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theAudience said:

Rodya24 said:



I am curious: why? smile

Since Dewrede & I appear to be the contrarians here, i'll give you my reasons until he shows back.

I just listened to these songs back-to-back.

The thing that immediately came to mind is that although MJ & Jermaine deliver a very professional performance (especially for their ages at the time), it's hard for me to believe individuals that are 12 & 16 years old respectively truly understand the emotional depths of the lyrics they're singing. (I have similar feelings about certain tunes sung by Stacy Lattisaw).

For example, when a 12 year old MJ sings, "I'll be there to protect you, with an unselfish love that respects you.", the picture that comes to mind is that he's referring to the love of a puppy (maybe a rodent or whale) as opposed to a woman.

It's much more believable on a emotional level being sung by a 22 year old Mariah and a 23 year old Trey Lorenz.

Cutting away all my prior psychological b.s., I simply prefer hearing the voices of Mariah/Trey over MJ/Jermaine in this case.


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you worded my reasons for liking Mariah's version better perfectly smile cool
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Reply #69 posted 11/25/07 9:03am

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whatsgoingon said:

I get your point, but the song can be interpreted in many ways to suit the singer. In the case of Jermaine and Michael, especially when they were young, it could be seen as a song about a family member as opposed to a love interest. I have even heard a gospel interpretation of the song.

I like Mariah version too, but like many great, female singers she has a tendency of over singing a song. Whereas in the case of the J5 they just sing it so naturally, yet so beautifully, with out all the vocal somersaults.


nod That's pretty much why I dig it.
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Reply #70 posted 11/25/07 9:18am

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...Your coochie gonna swell up and fall apart...
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Reply #71 posted 11/25/07 9:19am

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Reply #72 posted 11/25/07 6:01pm

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Discuss! I like both versions, but prefer the one by the Jackson Five. But to each his or her own! Which version do you like and why? Or do you like both like me?
[Edited 11/23/07 16:25pm]


J5.
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Reply #73 posted 11/25/07 6:21pm

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Someone is going to hell for that. falloff
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Reply #74 posted 11/25/07 8:47pm

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First and foremost it's a J5 song. Mariah did a nice cover, but she never owned the song. On a side note, I never realized that Trey Lorenz was queer as a cat fart. It's funny watching this video years later...
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Reply #75 posted 11/25/07 10:29pm

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This is a no-brainer. Of course it's the J5 version. Don't even put Mariah's version on that level, please. The lady has no soul, and she oversings as usual.
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Reply #76 posted 11/26/07 6:49am

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Tom said:

First and foremost it's a J5 song. Mariah did a nice cover, but she never owned the song. On a side note, I never realized that Trey Lorenz was queer as a cat fart. It's funny watching this video years later...



eek what in the world


I swear ya'll say some of the darnest things lol
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Reply #77 posted 11/26/07 6:54am

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Mariah Carey is lousy at remakes.I've never liked any of her cover songs.She never takes the song to another level or make you forget the original.Her remakes are dull and uninspired and she sounds like she's just going through the motions boxed

The original version of "I'll Be There" is,quite possibly,one of the greatest songs ever recorded.The production is flawless.It's hard to pick a favorite Jackson Five song but "I'll Be There" would be in my Top Five.
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Reply #78 posted 11/26/07 6:55am

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uPtoWnNY said:

This is a no-brainer. Of course it's the J5 version. Don't even put Mariah's version on that level, please. The lady has no soul, and she oversings as usual.


Exactly lol I like Mariah,but she needs to stay away from classic songs.Her remakes put me to sleep.
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Reply #79 posted 11/26/07 7:56am

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SoulAlive said:

Mariah Carey is lousy at remakes.I've never liked any of her cover songs.She never takes the song to another level or make you forget the original.Her remakes are dull and uninspired and she sounds like she's just going through the motions boxed

The original version of "I'll Be There" is,quite possibly,one of the greatest songs ever recorded.The production is flawless.It's hard to pick a favorite Jackson Five song but "I'll Be There" would be in my Top Five.

thats kind of mean.. because her song fantacy and Heartbreaker were great... she even did a remake for make it last.. and i loved that song...
mariah just should have never remade that song... im surprised so many of you guys strongly dislike her remake.. because that song went number 1... whats up with that....
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Reply #80 posted 11/26/07 8:44am

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Tom said:

First and foremost it's a J5 song. Mariah did a nice cover, but she never owned the song. On a side note, I never realized that Trey Lorenz was queer as a cat fart. It's funny watching this video years later...

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Reply #81 posted 11/26/07 10:32am

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Mariah
she gave the song its complete meaning




at least for me cool
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Reply #82 posted 11/26/07 12:59pm

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dammme said:

Mariah
she gave the song its complete meaning




at least for me cool

yeah, only to you lol
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Reply #83 posted 11/26/07 3:20pm

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Jackson 5 by a mile. In 5th grade, it would've probably been Mariah.....and you know I actually used to like Trey's part in the unplugged version.
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Reply #84 posted 11/26/07 8:20pm

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J5, no contest.
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