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Reply #30 posted 11/23/07 8:52pm

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Rodya24 said:

ABeautifulOne said:

It's a shame he's deceased although he did beautiful work...


Damn, I had no idea. neutral RIP.


Yeah, didn't he die of cancer?
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Reply #31 posted 11/23/07 9:25pm

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The You Are Not Alone music video: the worst Michael Jackson-associated music video of all time. neutral He should never take his shirt off -- unless it is 1988 and he is performing Dirty Diana.


Mike looked really weird in "You Are Not Alone". It was like he was trying to be sexy but failed miserably. At the time R. Kelly used to always run around shirtless (or at least with just a vest on) and because Kells produced "...Alone", I think Mike thought he tried the "shirtless" approach and it just looked tacky. confused He should've shot a different video. lol Have it a black and white video and just sit around singing the song and looking miserable, that would've been a better scenario. lol


Further proof why he should NEVER work with R. Kelly ever again. The results of their collaboration: three mediocre songs - "YANA," "Cry," and "One More Chance" - and the shirtless approach. neutral
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Reply #32 posted 11/23/07 10:37pm

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kinda neat seeing mj adore ms. ross on stage...but let's not kid ourselves, that's not sexual chemistry...that's maternal chemistry.


What mothers sit on your lap and the son groups all over her back? LOL



I will save you guys from hearing Diana singing 'Beat It' from a concert in '84 LMAO.

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Whatever you want to call it, there is still more chemistry there than with Naomi or Lisa Marie-the YANA video was cringe, cringe.

I also believe he and Ola Ray did look good together in Thriller.


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The You Are Not Alone music video: the worst Michael Jackson-associated music video of all time. neutral He should never take his shirt off -- unless it is 1988 and he is performing Dirty Diana.


:shuder: I hate YANA. That white boy hair cut? Gross. And he has an outie belly button, aww. lol He was a little shirtless before Bad too. Not as often though. His skinny behind I love it.

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midnightmover said:


If the lights were dark enough and her tits were hanging out and she kept her mouth shut so you didn't hear that squeaky voice...hhmmm, maybe. But generally speaking, naaahh.


damn, even in a non-combative thread you gotta go get your digs in...did janet kill your first born? steal your wealth? do share, inquiring minds wanna know.


I'm saying..

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MJ has looked better practically in all his videos pre Bad.

I see no real chemistry between him and Naomi, as usual it looks contrieved. If you want to see real chemistry between Michael and a woman, check out Diana Ross TV special 1981, when he joins her on stage for Upside Down.

However, you may have a point with Madonna, J-lo, Janet etc.

They have great chemistry because Diana "understands". wink She also "understood" transvestite one-hit-wonder Marilyn. They were very close. When she appeared on American Idol this year it was clear she had the best chemistry with the one obviously gay contestant, Sanjaya. The term "fag-hag" could have been invented for Diana.


hmmm doh! You're never going to believe Michael Joseph Jackson had a real, heterosexual in love emotion for Diana Ernestine Earle Ross are you? Well, no one and nothing can ever make your stubborn ass see anything, but regardless of that, he is.

whatsgoingon said:

MJ has looked better practically in all his videos pre Bad.

I see no real chemistry between him and Naomi, as usual it looks contrieved. If you want to see real chemistry between Michael and a woman, check out Diana Ross TV special 1981, when he joins her on stage for Upside Down.

However, you may have a point with Madonna, J-lo, Janet etc.


Yeah. Naomi was hot in that video though. I don't really find her all that attractive, but she was SEXY there!! Poor Michael. Hes so sexy when hes not trying to be. But when he does its so corny falloff

Heres some cute Diana/MJ stuff





well choke on her neck why don't you...

I'm still looking for that J5 performance where at the end, Sammy Davis Jr. comes out and what not. Diana asks him [Michael] to do that dance that "looks cute when you do it but I'd get arrest for," and Michael starts humping the air to the drums and runs behind her falloff you mean like this? and THIS? and like THIS??
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Reply #33 posted 11/23/07 10:49pm

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I have never seen that clip of MJ with Diana Ross where he is breaking up with her! So cute!

Thanks for posting all the YouTube links!
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Reply #34 posted 11/24/07 12:51am

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Britney Spears - Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know

Also directed by Herb Ritts


http://www.youtube.com/wa...VJYgi9pJNs
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Reply #35 posted 11/24/07 1:29am

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You're welcome smile

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Britney Spears - Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know

Also directed by Herb Ritts


http://www.youtube.com/wa...VJYgi9pJNs
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NSYNC's 'Gone'.
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Reply #36 posted 11/24/07 4:52am

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sosgemini said:

midnightmover said:


If the lights were dark enough and her tits were hanging out and she kept her mouth shut so you didn't hear that squeaky voice...hhmmm, maybe. But generally speaking, naaahh.


damn, even in a non-combative thread you gotta go get your digs in...did janet kill your first born? steal your wealth? do share, inquiring minds wanna know.

Hey, I was asked a question. I gave an answer. Janet's speaking voice and lack of a personality are the two things that make her non-sexy IMO. To be honest, the whole Jackson family are a bit lacking in the personality department, and none of them are very smart. When Jermaine appeared on Big Brother this year he was totally bland, slow, and uninteresting. Those are qualities Janet also has in spades. There's only one interesting Jackson and we all know who that is.

I also just don't think Janet's beautiful in normal light. Not saying I wouldn't do her if I had the chance, but I wouldn't relish it particularly. I prefer more natural looking women.
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Reply #37 posted 11/24/07 5:15am

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Back on topic, I've seen Toni Braxton look much better than she looks in that video. Herb must have had an attack of conscience after flattering so many people, and poor Toni happened to be working with him at the time. With the Mariah video he was back on form.
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Reply #38 posted 11/24/07 7:40am

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midnightmover said:

sosgemini said:



damn, even in a non-combative thread you gotta go get your digs in...did janet kill your first born? steal your wealth? do share, inquiring minds wanna know.

Hey, I was asked a question. I gave an answer. Janet's speaking voice and lack of a personality are the two things that make her non-sexy IMO. To be honest, the whole Jackson family are a bit lacking in the personality department, and none of them are very smart. When Jermaine appeared on Big Brother this year he was totally bland, slow, and uninteresting. Those are qualities Janet also has in spades. There's only one interesting Jackson and we all know who that is.

I also just don't think Janet's beautiful in normal light. Not saying I wouldn't do her if I had the chance, but I wouldn't relish it particularly. I prefer more natural looking women.
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Well, Janet isn't as natural looking as she was at that time *now* I think she had natural beauty.

Janet doesn't emote to the public anymore. It may seem like she is void of any personality, but just watch her around her kids (back up dancers) the very few clips out there that show her just being herself you'll see someone nearly completely different. Too bad most of her interviews are boring. They ask her the same old questions...you'll find very few good ones...most of them like I said, were years ago.

Did you ever watch the Private Home Videos on FOX w/ MJ? There were a lot of clips of Janet there, it was really cool. There was one dated 1990 I think it was, where they're playing a water balloon fight in teams. LOL. falloff

And yes, Jermaine is slow LOL. I can't speak for the other brothers, they're not in the spotlight?
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Reply #39 posted 11/24/07 11:33am

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floetcist said:

midnightmover said:


Hey, I was asked a question. I gave an answer. Janet's speaking voice and lack of a personality are the two things that make her non-sexy IMO. To be honest, the whole Jackson family are a bit lacking in the personality department, and none of them are very smart. When Jermaine appeared on Big Brother this year he was totally bland, slow, and uninteresting. Those are qualities Janet also has in spades. There's only one interesting Jackson and we all know who that is.

I also just don't think Janet's beautiful in normal light. Not saying I wouldn't do her if I had the chance, but I wouldn't relish it particularly. I prefer more natural looking women.
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Well, Janet isn't as natural looking as she was at that time *now* I think she had natural beauty.

Janet doesn't emote to the public anymore. It may seem like she is void of any personality, but just watch her around her kids (back up dancers) the very few clips out there that show her just being herself you'll see someone nearly completely different. Too bad most of her interviews are boring. They ask her the same old questions...you'll find very few good ones...most of them like I said, were years ago.

Did you ever watch the Private Home Videos on FOX w/ MJ? There were a lot of clips of Janet there, it was really cool. There was one dated 1990 I think it was, where they're playing a water balloon fight in teams. LOL. falloff

And yes, Jermaine is slow LOL. I can't speak for the other brothers, they're not in the spotlight?

I saw the water fight at Neverland, but I hardly think it showed her as an interesting person. Go into any playground, give some 8 year olds water guns, and you'll see them laugh and get excited. That doesn't mean they're interesting. It doesn't mean you could have a decent conversation with them. It just means they're kids. As for the rest of the family, they've been interviewed a million times. Tito, Katherine, Marlon, etc. None of them really seem like they're all there.
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Reply #40 posted 11/24/07 12:30pm

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midnightmover said:

floetcist said:



Well, Janet isn't as natural looking as she was at that time *now* I think she had natural beauty.

Janet doesn't emote to the public anymore. It may seem like she is void of any personality, but just watch her around her kids (back up dancers) the very few clips out there that show her just being herself you'll see someone nearly completely different. Too bad most of her interviews are boring. They ask her the same old questions...you'll find very few good ones...most of them like I said, were years ago.

Did you ever watch the Private Home Videos on FOX w/ MJ? There were a lot of clips of Janet there, it was really cool. There was one dated 1990 I think it was, where they're playing a water balloon fight in teams. LOL. falloff

And yes, Jermaine is slow LOL. I can't speak for the other brothers, they're not in the spotlight?

I saw the water fight at Neverland, but I hardly think it showed her as an interesting person. Go into any playground, give some 8 year olds water guns, and you'll see them laugh and get excited. That doesn't mean they're interesting. It doesn't mean you could have a decent conversation with them. It just means they're kids. As for the rest of the family, they've been interviewed a million times. Tito, Katherine, Marlon, etc. None of them really seem like they're all there.


most of janet's live interviews are boring but she has had some really good print interviews where they didnt just ask the same questions.i dont think she is the soft spoken aloof person she portrays in public, i've heard people who actually know janet describe her as being a smart businesswoman and very competitive, you cant always believe what you see.
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Reply #41 posted 11/24/07 1:11pm

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midnightmover said:

floetcist said:



Well, Janet isn't as natural looking as she was at that time *now* I think she had natural beauty.

Janet doesn't emote to the public anymore. It may seem like she is void of any personality, but just watch her around her kids (back up dancers) the very few clips out there that show her just being herself you'll see someone nearly completely different. Too bad most of her interviews are boring. They ask her the same old questions...you'll find very few good ones...most of them like I said, were years ago.

Did you ever watch the Private Home Videos on FOX w/ MJ? There were a lot of clips of Janet there, it was really cool. There was one dated 1990 I think it was, where they're playing a water balloon fight in teams. LOL. falloff

And yes, Jermaine is slow LOL. I can't speak for the other brothers, they're not in the spotlight?

I saw the water fight at Neverland, but I hardly think it showed her as an interesting person. Go into any playground, give some 8 year olds water guns, and you'll see them laugh and get excited. That doesn't mean they're interesting. It doesn't mean you could have a decent conversation with them. It just means they're kids. As for the rest of the family, they've been interviewed a million times. Tito, Katherine, Marlon, etc. None of them really seem like they're all there.


That wasn't my point. lol I said, its one of the few times you get to see her 'out of character' if you will. When me and my friends were watching 'Why Did I Get Married' they commented on how they didn't know Janet could scream like that, etc.

I don't think being soft spoken means you're slow or not all there. Which all of his family is...well, except Joseph eek
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Reply #42 posted 11/24/07 1:16pm

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Dag... herbe rittz made all those celebs look amazing in their videos
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Reply #43 posted 11/24/07 1:26pm

midnightmover

floetcist said:

midnightmover said:


I saw the water fight at Neverland, but I hardly think it showed her as an interesting person. Go into any playground, give some 8 year olds water guns, and you'll see them laugh and get excited. That doesn't mean they're interesting. It doesn't mean you could have a decent conversation with them. It just means they're kids. As for the rest of the family, they've been interviewed a million times. Tito, Katherine, Marlon, etc. None of them really seem like they're all there.


That wasn't my point. lol I said, its one of the few times you get to see her 'out of character' if you will. When me and my friends were watching 'Why Did I Get Married' they commented on how they didn't know Janet could scream like that, etc.

I don't think being soft spoken means you're slow or not all there. Which all of his family is...well, except Joseph eek

Well, my intitial post you were responding to was about her being uninteresting. That was my point. And I never said being soft spoken meant you were slow either.
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Reply #44 posted 11/24/07 1:35pm

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I didn't realize those were all by him but looking at the style of them, I understand.

I think "Wicked Game" was the sexiest video ever. That was like ART touching MTV.
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Reply #45 posted 11/25/07 12:56pm

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lEt me just comment quickly on some of the things discussed in this thread:
I understand why you don´t like YANA, it´s not MJ´s best video, but I do love certain shots in it. wink
All the videos of MJ and Diana are the cutest ever.

HEre are just some of my favourite Herb Ritts pictures. Let me start with my darling Mike.






HEre are some cool Britney pictures that I like.






And some pictures of top models. NSFW
[img]http://img216.images...ts4di2.jpg
[img]http://img216.images...ts1fl8.png


And Madonna. There are many more Madonna pictures, but I won´t post them right now. If anyone feels like it, please post them.
[img]http://img229.images...ts3xe5.jpg

[no nude pics please...- sos]
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #46 posted 11/26/07 7:28pm

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He took some photos of Naomi too, I'm sure.

One more MJ/Diana video razz

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Reply #47 posted 11/27/07 2:27am

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He took some photos of Naomi too, I'm sure.

One more MJ/Diana video razz


THAT smile!! love love love Thanks. I´ve never seen this video.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #48 posted 11/27/07 8:23am

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I've always thought that he was the best photographer Madonna ever worked with.
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Reply #49 posted 11/27/07 7:46pm

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Madonna was kind of hot than.
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Reply #50 posted 11/27/07 7:55pm

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