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Thread started 11/19/07 3:10pm

dancerella

Question about Rihanna's speech.....

Last night she won one of the last awards at the American Music Awards in the female R&B category and said something to the effect of "i didn't expect to be nominated in this category". What did she mean by that? I don't know but it came off as stank to me like as if she felt she should be in the pop category. What do you guys think?? Maybe i'm reading into it too deeply but I didn't like her vibe and the way she came across.....
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Reply #1 posted 11/19/07 3:21pm

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dancerella said:

Last night she won one of the last awards at the American Music Awards in the female R&B category and said something to the effect of "i didn't expect to be nominated in this category". What did she mean by that? I don't know but it came off as stank to me like as if she felt she should be in the pop category. What do you guys think?? Maybe i'm reading into it too deeply but I didn't like her vibe and the way she came across.....
Everything about her says, as soon as I can get away from this "stepping stone", I'm out.
That's why she did that rock thing at the last show.
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Reply #2 posted 11/19/07 3:28pm

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dancerella said:

Last night she won one of the last awards at the American Music Awards in the female R&B category and said something to the effect of "i didn't expect to be nominated in this category". What did she mean by that? I don't know but it came off as stank to me like as if she felt she should be in the pop category. What do you guys think?? Maybe i'm reading into it too deeply but I didn't like her vibe and the way she came across.....

She doe not do R&B.
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Reply #3 posted 11/19/07 3:33pm

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Graycap23 said:

dancerella said:

Last night she won one of the last awards at the American Music Awards in the female R&B category and said something to the effect of "i didn't expect to be nominated in this category". What did she mean by that? I don't know but it came off as stank to me like as if she felt she should be in the pop category. What do you guys think?? Maybe i'm reading into it too deeply but I didn't like her vibe and the way she came across.....

She doe not do R&B.
It was the way she said it. It was probably innocent, but I noticed it too. I do have a feeling that the wheels started turning when she saw Alicia's performance, though. She said "I can appreciate that" She didn't say she liked it. The subtext was "I'm going to show you how that should have been done".
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Reply #4 posted 11/19/07 3:57pm

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I really didn't like the way she congradulated her peers in the Soul/R&B award as "other nominees." It's obvious she doesn't like Beyonce but it didn't have to be so careless. I still think Rihanna should have been in the Pop/Rock category and Fantasia should have won the Soul/R&B award since Beyonce is more Pop/Rock.
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Reply #5 posted 11/19/07 3:58pm

dancerella

anon said:

Graycap23 said:


She doe not do R&B.
It was the way she said it. It was probably innocent, but I noticed it too. I do have a feeling that the wheels started turning when she saw Alicia's performance, though. She said "I can appreciate that" She didn't say she liked it. The subtext was "I'm going to show you how that should have been done".



Exactly! It just came off as really snooty. I'm really started to dislike her. Why doesn't she do a heavy metal record and just get it over with already if she doesn't want to considered R&B?! It will be very interesting to see what she does musically next because I don't think she wants to be lumped in with R&B.
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Reply #6 posted 11/19/07 4:01pm

dancerella

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I really didn't like the way she congradulated her peers in the Soul/R&B award as "other nominees." It's obvious she doesn't like Beyonce but it didn't have to be so careless. I still think Rihanna should have been in the Pop/Rock category and Fantasia should have won the Soul/R&B award since Beyonce is more Pop/Rock.



i just get a fake catty "high school" vibe from her. totally insincere! this bitch thinks she's a diva already. whitney houston she is not! she's not even madonna!
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Reply #7 posted 11/19/07 4:15pm

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dancerella said:

Last night she won one of the last awards at the American Music Awards in the female R&B category and said something to the effect of "i didn't expect to be nominated in this category". What did she mean by that? I don't know but it came off as stank to me like as if she felt she should be in the pop category. What do you guys think?? Maybe i'm reading into it too deeply but I didn't like her vibe and the way she came across.....


You just answer you own question correctly. Rihanna is a hip-pop artists that wants to do other genres outside of the boring hip-hop/r&b crisis of FM radio formats. I think music-fans can do without Beyonce-clones for a change.
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Reply #8 posted 11/19/07 4:18pm

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dancerella said:

anon said:

It was the way she said it. It was probably innocent, but I noticed it too. I do have a feeling that the wheels started turning when she saw Alicia's performance, though. She said "I can appreciate that" She didn't say she liked it. The subtext was "I'm going to show you how that should have been done".



Exactly! It just came off as really snooty. I'm really started to dislike her. Why doesn't she do a heavy metal record and just get it over with already if she doesn't want to considered R&B?! It will be very interesting to see what she does musically next because I don't think she wants to be lumped in with R&B.


Rihanna still needs the OK from her boss Jay-Z before leaving her hip-pop/hip-hop/r&b fan base for good.
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Reply #9 posted 11/19/07 4:25pm

Rhondab

TonyVanDam said:

dancerella said:

Last night she won one of the last awards at the American Music Awards in the female R&B category and said something to the effect of "i didn't expect to be nominated in this category". What did she mean by that? I don't know but it came off as stank to me like as if she felt she should be in the pop category. What do you guys think?? Maybe i'm reading into it too deeply but I didn't like her vibe and the way she came across.....


You just answer you own question correctly. Rihanna is a hip-pop artists that wants to do other genres outside of the boring hip-hop/r&b crisis of FM radio formats. I think music-fans can do without Beyonce-clones for a change.



rihanna is a hip hop artist? Nothing she's done really has being hip hop. Having a rapper on your record doesn't make you a hip hop artist.
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Reply #10 posted 11/19/07 4:26pm

Cinnie

dancerella said:

ABeautifulOne said:

I really didn't like the way she congradulated her peers in the Soul/R&B award as "other nominees." It's obvious she doesn't like Beyonce but it didn't have to be so careless. I still think Rihanna should have been in the Pop/Rock category and Fantasia should have won the Soul/R&B award since Beyonce is more Pop/Rock.



i just get a fake catty "high school" vibe from her. totally insincere! this bitch thinks she's a diva already. whitney houston she is not! she's not even madonna!


i love her 'tude! cool
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Reply #11 posted 11/19/07 4:26pm

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dancerella said:

anon said:

It was the way she said it. It was probably innocent, but I noticed it too. I do have a feeling that the wheels started turning when she saw Alicia's performance, though. She said "I can appreciate that" She didn't say she liked it. The subtext was "I'm going to show you how that should have been done".



Exactly! It just came off as really snooty. I'm really started to dislike her. Why doesn't she do a heavy metal record and just get it over with already if she doesn't want to considered R&B?! It will be very interesting to see what she does musically next because I don't think she wants to be lumped in with R&B.
I agree, the direction she takes will be interesting. I don't think she's that talented but I like her drive. At least we can look forward to fairly good videos...from the production end. She's cute, but she doesn't have the presence that I think she believes she has. Hopefully she can act. That might help her get where she wants to be.
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Reply #12 posted 11/19/07 4:35pm

dancerella

TonyVanDam said:

dancerella said:




Exactly! It just came off as really snooty. I'm really started to dislike her. Why doesn't she do a heavy metal record and just get it over with already if she doesn't want to considered R&B?! It will be very interesting to see what she does musically next because I don't think she wants to be lumped in with R&B.


Rihanna still needs the OK from her boss Jay-Z before leaving her hip-pop/hip-hop/r&b fan base for good.




that's exactly why i say she's not even like Madonna. Madona doesn't need to get the "ok" from anyone to do jack shit when it comes down to her career. Rihanna has a long way to go before coming "the black madonna" as she recently stated. i'm sorry but i don't feel her "rock direction" is genuine. it seems very calculated and like her record company just didn't want her to be compared to Beyonce, hence the new look and sound!
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Reply #13 posted 11/19/07 4:51pm

Cinnie

Rihanna hasn't been around as long as Alicia, but she has had as many albums, because she has that DRIVE which is a gift needed to keep making hit after hit.

If you look back at what Rihanna has released for singles, you could say they are pop songs.
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Reply #14 posted 11/19/07 4:58pm

Cinnie

For those lurking that missed it and didn't get a chance to interpret what Rihanna said:

http://www.dailymotion.co...l-li_music
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Reply #15 posted 11/19/07 5:04pm

Cinnie

dancerella

do you believe Rihanna was laughing at Britney Spears when she opened for the MTV VMAs this summer?

I feel like that may have formed part of your opinion.
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Reply #16 posted 11/19/07 5:12pm

lastdecember

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dancerella said:

TonyVanDam said:



Rihanna still needs the OK from her boss Jay-Z before leaving her hip-pop/hip-hop/r&b fan base for good.




that's exactly why i say she's not even like Madonna. Madona doesn't need to get the "ok" from anyone to do jack shit when it comes down to her career. Rihanna has a long way to go before coming "the black madonna" as she recently stated. i'm sorry but i don't feel her "rock direction" is genuine. it seems very calculated and like her record company just didn't want her to be compared to Beyonce, hence the new look and sound!


Exactly. Not to pile on Rihanna but she isnt this mega-star we think, i know she has constant top10 hits and released 3 albums fairly quick in this generation, but lets not give credit where its not due. I remember when Rihanna went in to do this 3rd record, she said in an interview she said to her label "get me the best songs to do, i wanna be harder edged" well right there its not genuine because you are letting someone else define your "edge". I remember watching those awful MTV awards and seeing her laugh at Britney, and i thought, "why are u laughing? are u better?". Look Rihanna is more of a POP star than anything, she didnt even know who Soft Cell were? I mean there should be a law that if you sample, you have to at least know the hit you have stolen. And also i know some people have said that Rihanna was "smart" for taking on SOS when Christina Milian turned it down. Christina turned it down mainly because she said she didnt wanna do a cover, she felt that song had been done to death already, now we may say that was a dumb decision but i applaud Christina for showing some guts and refusing to do something she didnt want to, and then of course being released from Def Jam because she showed some form of thinking. Rihanna wasnt smart for taking the song, she just didnt want to get the boot too. As for the Madonna comment, she will never be that, and also once again HOW ABOUT BEING YOURSELF, its cool to have influence, but stop saying stupid shit like this the "Black Madonna". I mean i know most of the Org hates on Alicia for copying styles, but at least shes not saying "I'm the female Prince" in interviews, she has absorbed the influence rather than just stating "Im the next...."

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #17 posted 11/19/07 5:16pm

lastdecember

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Cinnie said:

Rihanna hasn't been around as long as Alicia, but she has had as many albums, because she has that DRIVE which is a gift needed to keep making hit after hit.

If you look back at what Rihanna has released for singles, you could say they are pop songs.


Gotta disagree, its not all about her having Drive, shes got people writing everything, laying down the tracks for her, all she is doing is going to the studio and singing over it. The only thing i will give her is that she did tour somewhat, but she has almost nothing to do with her career or her music.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #18 posted 11/19/07 5:26pm

Ottensen

Sorry folks, but I am completely late to the whole Rihanna phenomenon. She has become an international star now,and I understand the the young kids over here are crazy about her. But lemme ask ya somethin'...I just watched her AMA clips, probably one of the fews times I've taken notice of her live performances, and is it just me, or is she simply just a "Beyoncè-Lite".... hmm

As for that I-wanna-be-the-black-Madonna comment, that chyle needs to go sit her behind down somewhere. One day there might just be some young artist that will take the chances and make the strides comparable to what granmaw Mahagda has, and redefine what it means to be a cultural icon for the 21st century...however, those are pretty big shoes to fill, and I simply don't see her as being "it".

She's a cute girl though lol
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Reply #19 posted 11/19/07 9:50pm

TonyVanDam

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Rhondab said:

TonyVanDam said:



You just answer you own question correctly. Rihanna is a hip-pop artists that wants to do other genres outside of the boring hip-hop/r&b crisis of FM radio formats. I think music-fans can do without Beyonce-clones for a change.



rihanna is a hip hop artist? Nothing she's done really has being hip hop. Having a rapper on your record doesn't make you a hip hop artist.


I said hip-pop, NOT hip-hop.

And BTW, Mary J. Blige is consider a hip-hop artist. And she isn't a rapper neither.
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Reply #20 posted 11/19/07 9:56pm

novabrkr

Haha, the age old "hip-pop" trap! I once too fell into it, it's a very devious one indeed.

... but y'all seriously need to stop talking so negatively about my future wife. shrug
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Reply #21 posted 11/19/07 9:58pm

TonyVanDam

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lastdecember said:

dancerella said:





that's exactly why i say she's not even like Madonna. Madona doesn't need to get the "ok" from anyone to do jack shit when it comes down to her career. Rihanna has a long way to go before coming "the black madonna" as she recently stated. i'm sorry but i don't feel her "rock direction" is genuine. it seems very calculated and like her record company just didn't want her to be compared to Beyonce, hence the new look and sound!


Exactly. Not to pile on Rihanna but she isnt this mega-star we think, i know she has constant top10 hits and released 3 albums fairly quick in this generation, but lets not give credit where its not due. I remember when Rihanna went in to do this 3rd record, she said in an interview she said to her label "get me the best songs to do, i wanna be harder edged" well right there its not genuine because you are letting someone else define your "edge". I remember watching those awful MTV awards and seeing her laugh at Britney, and i thought, "why are u laughing? are u better?". Look Rihanna is more of a POP star than anything, she didnt even know who Soft Cell were? I mean there should be a law that if you sample, you have to at least know the hit you have stolen. And also i know some people have said that Rihanna was "smart" for taking on SOS when Christina Milian turned it down. Christina turned it down mainly because she said she didnt wanna do a cover, she felt that song had been done to death already, now we may say that was a dumb decision but i applaud Christina for showing some guts and refusing to do something she didnt want to, and then of course being released from Def Jam because she showed some form of thinking. Rihanna wasnt smart for taking the song, she just didnt want to get the boot too. As for the Madonna comment, she will never be that, and also once again HOW ABOUT BEING YOURSELF, its cool to have influence, but stop saying stupid shit like this the "Black Madonna". I mean i know most of the Org hates on Alicia for copying styles, but at least shes not saying "I'm the female Prince" in interviews, she has absorbed the influence rather than just stating "Im the next...."


That doesn't surprise me at all. Most members of Rihanna's generation don't know much about the old-school artists they sample neither. disbelief
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Reply #22 posted 11/19/07 10:04pm

purplesweat

rolleyes Just analyze everything she says...

For a forum that says they "hate shit hop music of today" they sure dedicate alot of time to talking about it.
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Reply #23 posted 11/20/07 12:32am

rebelsoldier

Graycap23 said:

dancerella said:

Last night she won one of the last awards at the American Music Awards in the female R&B category and said something to the effect of "i didn't expect to be nominated in this category". What did she mean by that? I don't know but it came off as stank to me like as if she felt she should be in the pop category. What do you guys think?? Maybe i'm reading into it too deeply but I didn't like her vibe and the way she came across.....

She doe not do R&B.

clapping Pop all the way. She simply gets the RnB label cause she's a colored chick.
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Reply #24 posted 11/20/07 12:45am

MsLegs

rebelsoldier said:

Graycap23 said:


She doe not do R&B.

clapping Pop all the way. She simply gets the RnB label cause she's a colored chick.

nod True unfortunately.
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Reply #25 posted 11/20/07 2:00am

FarrahMoan

MsLegs said:

rebelsoldier said:


clapping Pop all the way. She simply gets the RnB label cause she's a colored chick.

nod True unfortunately.


What would you say is the "Unfortunate" part of that post?
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Reply #26 posted 11/20/07 2:13am

dirtyman2005

well the fact is,
even though she looks like an alien face.

i would still fuck her up her arse and make her shut up and drive like she says in her songs.

someone needs to take her up the arse and punish her.
razz razz
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Reply #27 posted 11/20/07 2:17am

FarrahMoan

dirtyman2005 said:

well the fact is,
even though she looks like an alien face.

i would still fuck her up her arse and make her shut up and drive like she says in her songs.

someone needs to take her up the arse and punish her.
razz razz


Ah, yes. Refreshing. Perhaps a little relief from her implicatively anal-retentive disposition will help straighten her out good. I suppose you're right, there.
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Reply #28 posted 11/20/07 2:30am

rebelsoldier

dirtyman2005 said:

well the fact is,
even though she looks like an alien face.

i would still fuck her up her arse and make her shut up and drive like she says in her songs.

someone needs to take her up the arse and punish her.
razz razz

I nominate myself. smile
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Reply #29 posted 11/20/07 2:45am

purplesweat

FarrahMoan said:

MsLegs said:


nod True unfortunately.


What would you say is the "Unfortunate" part of that post?



...the fact that she gets put in a certain category and, like most black artists, usually ends up stuck there based on the fact that the public seems to think black artist = R&B. If Rihanna were white, she'd be called a pop star.
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