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Printablebsk3601 said: phunkdaddy said: Why pay 29.98 for this expanded edition that may offer next to
nothing when you can get the original version on cd for 7.98? for the same reason folks dropped $30 for the deluxe/expanded editions of What's Going On, Let's Get It On, I Want You and In Our Lifetime. I paid $12 for most of those, which is about what I'll pay for this one when it shows up on yourmusic.com. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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bsk3601 said: phunkdaddy said: Why pay 29.98 for this expanded edition that may offer next to
nothing when you can get the original version on cd for 7.98? for the same reason folks dropped $30 for the deluxe/expanded editions of What's Going On, Let's Get It On, I Want You and In Our Lifetime. The fact that this album is remastered is truly worth it. There was really no point in name dropping all of those people who mixed these songs. They did a good job. The only complaint I have is that the drums are dropped out of the mix on too many songs... But the version of Anger? whooo 
[Edited 12/11/07 18:06pm] Cool. To each his own. I did like the erick sermon mix of a marvin tune about 5 years back but do we want to hear an entire edition of alternate takes on an underground masterpiece and dropping 30 bucks on it at that. I just ordered the original for 7.38 and i want to remember the album the way i did as a kid. I'm good. Don't laugh at my funk
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Are the liner notes any good? I heard that this didn't even come with a booklet, just the package itself!  Check me out and add me on:
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silverchild said: Are the liner notes any good? I heard that this didn't even come with a booklet, just the package itself!
I thought it had a booklet. What the fuck?!?! "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: silverchild said: Are the liner notes any good? I heard that this didn't even come with a booklet, just the package itself!
I thought it had a booklet. What the fuck?!?! I wanted to ask that question because I saw this post that someone posted on some music forum about this deluxe edition: Received yesterday (but minus the "richly textured 28-page booklet, packed with full lyrics, an essay by Gaye biographer David Ritz, and two sidebar essays detailing the creation of the controversial cover art and the making of this edition. In true Hip-oSelect.com style, also included are comprehensive recording and musician annotations for the first time", and we're working on that one right now...), and all I can say is yes. YES!!! The original album is still there, and the the new mixes/versions/whatever (the company goes to great pains to not call them "remixes", presumably because there's "no overdubbing", but hell, I call remix, and proudly!) are quite often stunning, bringing out as they do A) features of the original tracks that were less than obvious in the original mixes; B) alternate vocal/instrumental performances; and/or C) reusing the original tracks in a wholly visionary manner. For the latter, I'm thinking particularly of the "alternate version" of "Falling In Love Again", which begins life pretty straight-ahaed, but then all of a sudden the drums drop out and all these Rhodes swirls start coming up and over, and little by little all sense of "here" is removed and you're transported to an ethereal yet still real "some other place". The effect is not unlike having the song running through your head, suddenly being shot, and having the song continue to play in your head as your life in this plane slowly but inexorably wanes away and you transition into....someplace else. Given that this is Marvin, it's hard for me not to feel it like that, although the "intent" of the "alternate mixer" Salaam Remi (and why the fear of the term "remix" anyway?) is not known (or if it is, is in the "richly textured 28-page booklet, packed with full lyrics, an essay by Gaye biographer David Ritz, and two sidebar essays detailing the creation of the controversial cover art and the making of this edition. In true Hip-oSelect.com style, also included are comprehensive recording and musician annotations for the first time" which I did not receive, GRRRR...) but that's how it hits me. No secret that if ever there was such a thing as a "flawed masterpiece", it was Here, My Dear. This expanded edition doesn't remove any of the flaws, but it does accentuate/highlight/drive home the masterpiece, even w/o the "richly textured 28-page booklet, packed with full lyrics, an essay by Gaye biographer David Ritz, and two sidebar essays detailing the creation of the controversial cover art and the making of this edition. In true Hip-oSelect.com style, also included are comprehensive recording and musician annotations for the first time" which I BETTER get a response on. Marvin Gaye was and is one of "those" artists for me. If he was/is for you, and if the "gap" between "Got To Give It Up" & "Sexual Healing" is one that exists for other people, not you, then I think you'll want this. Just be ready to shoot off some e-mail about a potentially missing "richly textured 28-page booklet, packed with full lyrics, an essay by Gaye biographer David Ritz, and two sidebar essays detailing the creation of the controversial cover art and the making of this edition. In true Hip-oSelect.com style, also included are comprehensive recording and musician annotations for the first time". Check me out and add me on:
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silverchild said: KingSausage said: I thought it had a booklet. What the fuck?!?! I wanted to ask that question because I saw this post that someone posted on some music forum about this deluxe edition: Received yesterday (but minus the "richly textured 28-page booklet, packed with full lyrics, an essay by Gaye biographer David Ritz, and two sidebar essays detailing the creation of the controversial cover art and the making of this edition. In true Hip-oSelect.com style, also included are comprehensive recording and musician annotations for the first time", and we're working on that one right now...), and all I can say is yes. YES!!! The original album is still there, and the the new mixes/versions/whatever (the company goes to great pains to not call them "remixes", presumably because there's "no overdubbing", but hell, I call remix, and proudly!) are quite often stunning, bringing out as they do A) features of the original tracks that were less than obvious in the original mixes; B) alternate vocal/instrumental performances; and/or C) reusing the original tracks in a wholly visionary manner. For the latter, I'm thinking particularly of the "alternate version" of "Falling In Love Again", which begins life pretty straight-ahaed, but then all of a sudden the drums drop out and all these Rhodes swirls start coming up and over, and little by little all sense of "here" is removed and you're transported to an ethereal yet still real "some other place". The effect is not unlike having the song running through your head, suddenly being shot, and having the song continue to play in your head as your life in this plane slowly but inexorably wanes away and you transition into....someplace else. Given that this is Marvin, it's hard for me not to feel it like that, although the "intent" of the "alternate mixer" Salaam Remi (and why the fear of the term "remix" anyway?) is not known (or if it is, is in the "richly textured 28-page booklet, packed with full lyrics, an essay by Gaye biographer David Ritz, and two sidebar essays detailing the creation of the controversial cover art and the making of this edition. In true Hip-oSelect.com style, also included are comprehensive recording and musician annotations for the first time" which I did not receive, GRRRR...) but that's how it hits me. No secret that if ever there was such a thing as a "flawed masterpiece", it was Here, My Dear. This expanded edition doesn't remove any of the flaws, but it does accentuate/highlight/drive home the masterpiece, even w/o the "richly textured 28-page booklet, packed with full lyrics, an essay by Gaye biographer David Ritz, and two sidebar essays detailing the creation of the controversial cover art and the making of this edition. In true Hip-oSelect.com style, also included are comprehensive recording and musician annotations for the first time" which I BETTER get a response on. Marvin Gaye was and is one of "those" artists for me. If he was/is for you, and if the "gap" between "Got To Give It Up" & "Sexual Healing" is one that exists for other people, not you, then I think you'll want this. Just be ready to shoot off some e-mail about a potentially missing "richly textured 28-page booklet, packed with full lyrics, an essay by Gaye biographer David Ritz, and two sidebar essays detailing the creation of the controversial cover art and the making of this edition. In true Hip-oSelect.com style, also included are comprehensive recording and musician annotations for the first time". Interesting. Thanks for sending! What I really want to know is, Are we going to try to love each other? j/k Seriously, what I want to know is, How is the original, remastered album? Is the sound better than the existing CD? This is the dealbreaker for me. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: What I really want to know is, Are we going to try to love each other? j/k Seriously, what I want to know is, How is the original, remastered album? Is the sound better than the existing CD? This is the dealbreaker for me.
The sound is definitely better than the original cd released in 1994. I'm no technical buff but to my ears, it's not quite as crisp as remasters of the prior albums. But there is definitely a vast improvement. Disc 2 really brings out the crisp sounds I was anticipating. The more I listen to it, the more I believe that it's slightly better than the original. [Edited 12/16/07 9:41am] | |
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I think this review sums it up pretty well.
by Don Guarisco
Here, My Dear separates the soul music cultist from the casual listener. This 1978 double-album from Marvin Gaye found the singer chronicling the pain of his divorce to wife Anna by combining elegant, multi-textured funk and soul with the confessional lyrics of the most painful variety. The end result was lovely yet intense and explicit in a way that most listeners and critics weren't prepared to handle: on some tracks he accuses his wife of using their son as a bargaining chip and makes reference to her demand for a million-dollar settlement, on others he confesses to indulging in cocaine and prostitutes. Here, My Dear received harsh critical notices and sold poorly (Gaye would later accuse Berry Gordy – his wife's brother – of burying the album). However, the album's haunting music and fascinating backstory allowed it to build a cult following over the years and it is now revered as a key part of Marvin Gaye's artistic legacy. The respect and awe Here, My Dear inspires can be felt in the recent 2-CD special edition of this album from Hip-O/Motown Select. The album is reproduced in all its glory on the first disc, offering a crisp, richly-hued remaster that allows the listener to savor every vocal overdub and instrumental frill. It also adds "Ain't It Funny (How Things Turn Around)," an outtake that was remixed for this disc by none other than Bootsy Collins. The second disc is one of the more unique offerings in deluxe-edition history – it contains the Here, My Dear album remixed by a group of producers and devoted Marvin fans in an old-school style. This approach could have been a disaster in the wrong hands but the gambit pays off handsomely here. The remixers stick to the original sessions (no overdubs, no scratching, etc.) and just use what is there to revisit the tracks from a different angle - for instance, Marcus Miller's remix of "Anger" takes some doo-wop backing vocals from deep in the mix and uses them as the backbone of the song and restructures the melody so it builds from mellow doo-wop harmonizing to the funky, assertive vocal flourishes that began the original version of the song. Often, the remixers strip down the claustrophobically dense mix of the original album to bring out the elegance of Marvin's vocal and the sophistication of his self-sung harmonies, not to much his surprisingly jazzy touch at the keyboard (there are more horn riffs and solos that get worked in, as well). A great example of that technique is John Rhone's remix of "You Can Leave But It's Going To Cost You," which strips down the original's dual-tracked lead vocal to a single confessional layer and hypnotically shifts the layers of the song's instrumentation so it ebbs and flows from bare-boned verses to throbbing, polyrhythmic choruses. The cherry on top of the package is a 12-inch instrumental mix of "A Funky Space Reincarnation," which is easily one of the most underrated major-label funk songs ever recorded. The one flaw of this set is the fussy, flimsy packaging, which attempt to replicate the double-albums original packaging via a tiny, foldout cardboard sleeve and results in a package that rips all too easily when you're trying to fish the discs out of their too-tight miniature album sleeves. That said, the Here, My Dear expanded reissue is still an amazing package. If you're a Marvin fan, you're going to want this. | |
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bsk3601 said: I think this review sums it up pretty well.
by Don Guarisco
Here, My Dear separates the soul music cultist from the casual listener. This 1978 double-album from Marvin Gaye found the singer chronicling the pain of his divorce to wife Anna by combining elegant, multi-textured funk and soul with the confessional lyrics of the most painful variety. The end result was lovely yet intense and explicit in a way that most listeners and critics weren't prepared to handle: on some tracks he accuses his wife of using their son as a bargaining chip and makes reference to her demand for a million-dollar settlement, on others he confesses to indulging in cocaine and prostitutes. Here, My Dear received harsh critical notices and sold poorly (Gaye would later accuse Berry Gordy – his wife's brother – of burying the album). However, the album's haunting music and fascinating backstory allowed it to build a cult following over the years and it is now revered as a key part of Marvin Gaye's artistic legacy. The respect and awe Here, My Dear inspires can be felt in the recent 2-CD special edition of this album from Hip-O/Motown Select. The album is reproduced in all its glory on the first disc, offering a crisp, richly-hued remaster that allows the listener to savor every vocal overdub and instrumental frill. It also adds "Ain't It Funny (How Things Turn Around)," an outtake that was remixed for this disc by none other than Bootsy Collins. The second disc is one of the more unique offerings in deluxe-edition history – it contains the Here, My Dear album remixed by a group of producers and devoted Marvin fans in an old-school style. This approach could have been a disaster in the wrong hands but the gambit pays off handsomely here. The remixers stick to the original sessions (no overdubs, no scratching, etc.) and just use what is there to revisit the tracks from a different angle - for instance, Marcus Miller's remix of "Anger" takes some doo-wop backing vocals from deep in the mix and uses them as the backbone of the song and restructures the melody so it builds from mellow doo-wop harmonizing to the funky, assertive vocal flourishes that began the original version of the song. Often, the remixers strip down the claustrophobically dense mix of the original album to bring out the elegance of Marvin's vocal and the sophistication of his self-sung harmonies, not to much his surprisingly jazzy touch at the keyboard (there are more horn riffs and solos that get worked in, as well). A great example of that technique is John Rhone's remix of "You Can Leave But It's Going To Cost You," which strips down the original's dual-tracked lead vocal to a single confessional layer and hypnotically shifts the layers of the song's instrumentation so it ebbs and flows from bare-boned verses to throbbing, polyrhythmic choruses. The cherry on top of the package is a 12-inch instrumental mix of "A Funky Space Reincarnation," which is easily one of the most underrated major-label funk songs ever recorded. The one flaw of this set is the fussy, flimsy packaging, which attempt to replicate the double-albums original packaging via a tiny, foldout cardboard sleeve and results in a package that rips all too easily when you're trying to fish the discs out of their too-tight miniature album sleeves. That said, the Here, My Dear expanded reissue is still an amazing package. If you're a Marvin fan, you're going to want this. That sounds fucking badass. I hope they're not leaving out the booklets too often though!!! "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: bsk3601 said: I think this review sums it up pretty well.
That sounds fucking badass. I hope they're not leaving out the booklets too often though!!! Oh it comes with a booklet too. They put so much effort into trying to recreate the gatefold feel of the original album that it makes the packaging slightly awkward. Full detail liners that cover the album, alternates and the artwork. | |
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I'm kind of excited about this. Though, I'm not a big fan of remixes of classics, I can't wait to get this.
I'm not going to lie, I was a little disappointed with the reissue of In Our Lifetime, but it was worth getting for the Love Man album. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: I'm kind of excited about this. Though, I'm not a big fan of remixes of classics, I can't wait to get this.
I'm not going to lie, I was a little disappointed with the reissue of In Our Lifetime, but it was worth getting for the Love Man album. I listened to samples of the In Our Lifetime set, and it just seems like variations of the same themes again and again. Nothing near the awesome What's Going On, Let's Get It On, and I Want You sets from years back. Those are still kicking my ass. How quickly does Hip-O ship? Are they pretty fast? Is this set limited edition like the last one? "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: daPrettyman said: I'm kind of excited about this. Though, I'm not a big fan of remixes of classics, I can't wait to get this.
I'm not going to lie, I was a little disappointed with the reissue of In Our Lifetime, but it was worth getting for the Love Man album. I listened to samples of the In Our Lifetime set, and it just seems like variations of the same themes again and again. Nothing near the awesome What's Going On, Let's Get It On, and I Want You sets from years back. Those are still kicking my ass. How quickly does Hip-O ship? Are they pretty fast? Is this set limited edition like the last one? Hey KS, what's up!?  | |
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KingSausage said: daPrettyman said: I'm kind of excited about this. Though, I'm not a big fan of remixes of classics, I can't wait to get this.
I'm not going to lie, I was a little disappointed with the reissue of In Our Lifetime, but it was worth getting for the Love Man album. I listened to samples of the In Our Lifetime set, and it just seems like variations of the same themes again and again. Nothing near the awesome What's Going On, Let's Get It On, and I Want You sets from years back. Those are still kicking my ass. How quickly does Hip-O ship? Are they pretty fast? Is this set limited edition like the last one? I ordered Peaches and Herb's "2 Hot" and they claimed it was shipped, but I didn't receive it. I had to call customer service, have them re-ship it and they ended up crediting me back for my cost (and I got the cd for free). So, they provided me good customer service, but it wasn't a fast process. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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KingSausage said: daPrettyman said: I'm kind of excited about this. Though, I'm not a big fan of remixes of classics, I can't wait to get this.
I'm not going to lie, I was a little disappointed with the reissue of In Our Lifetime, but it was worth getting for the Love Man album. I listened to samples of the In Our Lifetime set, and it just seems like variations of the same themes again and again. Nothing near the awesome What's Going On, Let's Get It On, and I Want You sets from years back. Those are still kicking my ass. How quickly does Hip-O ship? Are they pretty fast? Is this set limited edition like the last one? Hip-O is pretty slow considering the $6 shipping. Standard shipping is 3rd Class Bulk... so it can take anywhere from 2 to 4 weeks for receipt. If I were you, I'd probably wait for the Jan 15 retail release date... since this one isn't a limited edition set. | |
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bsk3601 said: KingSausage said: I listened to samples of the In Our Lifetime set, and it just seems like variations of the same themes again and again. Nothing near the awesome What's Going On, Let's Get It On, and I Want You sets from years back. Those are still kicking my ass. How quickly does Hip-O ship? Are they pretty fast? Is this set limited edition like the last one? Hip-O is pretty slow considering the $6 shipping. Standard shipping is 3rd Class Bulk... so it can take anywhere from 2 to 4 weeks for receipt. If I were you, I'd probably wait for the Jan 15 retail release date... since this one isn't a limited edition set. Thanks for the tips. I'll just wait until 1/15! Can't wait!!! "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: bsk3601 said: Hip-O is pretty slow considering the $6 shipping. Standard shipping is 3rd Class Bulk... so it can take anywhere from 2 to 4 weeks for receipt. If I were you, I'd probably wait for the Jan 15 retail release date... since this one isn't a limited edition set. Thanks for the tips. I'll just wait until 1/15! Can't wait!!! As slow as Hip-O is, you may not receive it until Feb. 1st.  **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Just got the original version. I'm loving it.
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I still afraid to listen to this album. I took me years to sit down with Meshell's Bitter. I've been unlucky in love and some songs can really hit me hard.  | |
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rebelsoldier said: I still afraid to listen to this album. I've been unlucky in love and some songs can really hit me hard.
Really. With the new year brings a promise of starting anew , doing away with whatever loose ends in your life that didn't fit/ you replace it with whatever suits you better, and get rid of the trolls/stalkers that bug you. Of course, you know the deal with this Marvin album, it was to pay off a divorce settlement. [Edited 12/29/07 6:43am] | |
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MsLegs said: rebelsoldier said: I still afraid to listen to this album. I've been unlucky in love and some songs can really hit me hard.
Really. With the new year brings a promise of starting anew , doing away with whatever loose ends in your life that didn't fit/ you replace it with whatever suits you better, and get rid of the trolls/stalkers that bug you. Of course, you know the deal with this Marvin album, it was to pay off a divorce settlement. [Edited 12/29/07 6:43am] Thanks for the kinds words, I been slowly putting it all behind me. Thank god I was never married. | |
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Cloudbuster said: bsk3601 said: Remixers aside, it's worth it just have this shit remastered
  It was remastered 10 years ago. This time, they expanded it. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: Cloudbuster said: It was remastered 10 years ago. This time, they expanded it. Remastered in 1994 for the first time on CD. Remastered in UK in 2001. The sound on this one is even better. | |
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