qvgangsta18 said: woogiebear said: a)R&B acts are gonna have to start doing smaller venues
b)Bobby Brown did it to Shabba back in the day cuz Shabba was whoopin' his ass on the "Humpin' Around" tour....we all know about the R.Kelly/Jay-z fiasco and now this.....THEY SHOULDA NEVA GAVE U NIGGAZ MONEY!!!!! c)C'mon folks....who are we dealin' with here???? Here's a man who has gone "schizo" right in front of your eyes who can't stop making videos talkin' to himself!!!!! A Ne-Yo/Chris Brown/Omarion/Bow Wow tour would be tha shiznit right now!!!! Although I don't care 4 some of 'em, that would be a SERIOUS DRAW!!!!! Let Keyshia Cole tour with R. Kelly..... bobby brown didn't drop shabba cuz of performance, he dropped him because Bobby's tour supporters where going to pull out because of shabba's homophobic comments, bout killin gays SHABBA WAS WHOOPIN' HIS ASS ON THAT TOUR!!!!! AND HE STOLE HIS HAIRCUT TO BOOT!!!!! | |
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LaCienega said: Timmy84 said: The media likes to glamorize R. Kelly as having a great career but in fact, he is destroying what the media had considered "great" considering his circumstances. Now that his publicist of FOURTEEN years has quit and Ne-Yo dropping out of his tour because of Kells' ignorant behavior, it's clear Kells is burning a lot of bridges in the entertainment world as well as the criminal justice system who either wanna get the guy locked up or let him go because the preliminary case has gone on for 100 years, lol.
You are a big Marvin fan and him and R Kelly are alike musically and in their personal lives. Marvin was messing with underage females married one and had a kid by one and was strung out on drugs and crazy when he died. And R kelly has messed with underage females and is crazy. So they both have alot in common. Don't you dare try to compare R.Kelly to Marvin Gaye! Yes,Marvin had "issues" too,but at least he actually had talent and amazing songs.R.Kelly has neither.Let's start the trial today and lock his ass up! | |
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LaCienega said:[quote] Ottensen said: Ne-yo is lying about the dressing room thing. He claims that R took all of them. Well not only was Keyshia mad about going on before him, it was also reported that she was mad cause his dressing room was bigger. Now if R took all of them ,then how was Keyshia complaining about ne-yo's room being bigger. Ne-yo is making up stuff and he knows that R never responds to any of the stuff they run to these radio stations to say about him. If ne-yo claims to be so great then why don't he find a promoter who is willing to let him headline his own tour. ATLANTA--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Leonard Rowe, president of Rowe Entertainment announces that the tour line up has changed for the nine-week long DOUBLE UP TOUR which currently features R. Kelly, Keyshia Cole, and J. Holiday.
Def Jam Recordings’ R&B vocalist, Ne-Yo, was a part of the line-up through Thursday, November 15th. It was Rowe Entertainment’s decision to revamp the line-up, minus the Def Jam Recordings’ artist, because Rowe Entertainment could not obtain the final, fully-executed contract from Ne-Yo’s agent. The decision to release Ne-Yo was made solely by Leonard Rowe the national tour promoter. Contrary to previously published reports, R. Kelly exerted no influence upon Leonard Rowe’s decision. “From a business perspective, it would have been extremely difficult for me to continue under this cloud of uncertainty. Unfortunately it was decided that in the best interest of all involved, since I was unable to receive the fully-executed contract, I had no other alternative but to release Ne-Yo from the tour,” said Leonard Rowe. “We are currently surveying the availability of other artists in order to fill this void.” Contact: JS MEDIA RELATIONS Juanita Stephens, 404-494-9156 JSMEDIAREL@AOL.COM or Denise L. Mc Iver, 323-229-9409 Dmciver167@aol.com http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/0....html?.v=1 I don't know if Ne-Yo is lying or not,but I do know that,everytime R.Kelly goes on tour with other acts,there's always some kind of drama.I recall he went on tour with Kelly Price in the late 90s,and she had major problems with him.He was disrespectful to her and she left the tour.Then,on another tour,Jay-Z had problems with R.Kelly too.It even resulted in a lawsuit.And now (surprise,surprise),R.Kelly is once again having problems with one of the acts on his tour.Sound familiar? I seem to notice a pattern here. | |
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LaCienega said: Rhondab said: R Kelly needs therapy.
Many artists do. It's funny watching you defend a disgusting child molester I guess you didn't see the video,lol | |
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SoulAlive said: LaCienega said: You are a big Marvin fan and him and R Kelly are alike musically and in their personal lives. Marvin was messing with underage females married one and had a kid by one and was strung out on drugs and crazy when he died. And R kelly has messed with underage females and is crazy. So they both have alot in common. Don't you dare try to compare R.Kelly to Marvin Gaye! Yes,Marvin had "issues" too,but at least he actually had talent and amazing songs.R.Kelly has neither.Let's start the trial today and lock his ass up! | |
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SoulAlive said: LaCienega said: You are a big Marvin fan and him and R Kelly are alike musically and in their personal lives. Marvin was messing with underage females married one and had a kid by one and was strung out on drugs and crazy when he died. And R kelly has messed with underage females and is crazy. So they both have alot in common. Don't you dare try to compare R.Kelly to Marvin Gaye! Yes,Marvin had "issues" too,but at least he actually had talent and amazing songs.R.Kelly has neither.Let's start the trial today and lock his ass up! Marvin still dated, fucked, and impregnated a underage female. So hes no better than R Kelly. So since marvin had amazing songs he got a pass from you???? Interesting... [Edited 11/30/07 1:58am] [Edited 11/30/07 2:00am] | |
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LaCienega said: SoulAlive said: Don't you dare try to compare R.Kelly to Marvin Gaye! Yes,Marvin had "issues" too,but at least he actually had talent and amazing songs.R.Kelly has neither.Let's start the trial today and lock his ass up! Marvin still dated, fucked, and impregnated a underage female. So hes no better than R Kelly. So since marvin had amazing songs he got a pass from you???? Interesting... I'm not excusing his behavior.I just think it's ridiculous for you to even mention R.Kelly's name in the same sentence.Despite his personality flaws,Marvin Gaye had REAL TALENT and is considered one of the greatest R&B artists of all time,with a string of classic albums.R.Kelly,on the other hand,is one of the worst songwriters of this generation.Unlike Marvin,there are no redeeming qualities about R.Kelly and his shitty music. | |
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SoulAlive said: LaCienega said: Marvin still dated, fucked, and impregnated a underage female. So hes no better than R Kelly. So since marvin had amazing songs he got a pass from you???? Interesting... I'm not excusing his behavior.I just think it's ridiculous for you to even mention R.Kelly's name in the same sentence.Despite his personality flaws,Marvin Gaye had REAL TALENT and is considered one of the greatest R&B artists of all time,with a string of classic albums.R.Kelly,on the other hand,is one of the worst songwriters of this generation.Unlike Marvin,there are no redeeming qualities about R.Kelly and his shitty music. I disagree... R.kelly had alot of great songs, back when he cared about making decent music... You cant deny songs like Rain Drops, Forever More,I can't sleep baby, Dream Girl, One Man, If i could turn back the Hands of Time, And he wrote and produced them, and they were good... (he also had alot of shitty songs, but then again so does prince) I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: SoulAlive said: I'm not excusing his behavior.I just think it's ridiculous for you to even mention R.Kelly's name in the same sentence.Despite his personality flaws,Marvin Gaye had REAL TALENT and is considered one of the greatest R&B artists of all time,with a string of classic albums.R.Kelly,on the other hand,is one of the worst songwriters of this generation.Unlike Marvin,there are no redeeming qualities about R.Kelly and his shitty music. I disagree... R.kelly had alot of great songs, back when he cared about making decent music... You cant deny songs like Rain Drops, Forever More,I can't sleep baby, Dream Girl, One Man, If i could turn back the Hands of Time, And he wrote and produced them, and they were good... (he also had alot of shitty songs, but then again so does prince) co-sign X_____ i'm done with this thread, cause you said what was needed to be said. | |
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LaCienega said: EmbattledWarrior said: I disagree... R.kelly had alot of great songs, back when he cared about making decent music... You cant deny songs like Rain Drops, Forever More,I can't sleep baby, Dream Girl, One Man, If i could turn back the Hands of Time, And he wrote and produced them, and they were good... (he also had alot of shitty songs, but then again so does prince) co-sign X_____ i'm done with this thread, cause you said what was needed to be said. No,I'm not gonna let you skate away from this thread I wanna see you try to dispute the point I made in my earlier comment. | |
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woogiebear said: qvgangsta18 said: bobby brown didn't drop shabba cuz of performance, he dropped him because Bobby's tour supporters where going to pull out because of shabba's homophobic comments, bout killin gays SHABBA WAS WHOOPIN' HIS ASS ON THAT TOUR!!!!! AND HE STOLE HIS HAIRCUT TO BOOT!!!!! I saw that tour. Mary J was there also. K Ci showed up to sing "I Don't Want to Do Anything" with Mary J. I was up front and there were many young kids in the crowd. When Shabba went out there with his dancers, the parents were very uncomfortable. I thought Bobby did ok. He was trying to get the crowd into it, but the crowd was too young. I almost forgot TLC was there throwing condoms to the crowd. | |
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Your getting this shit from that stupid Michael Eric Dyson book. He had not proof and should not have put that in his book.
Marvin was never filmed and about to go on trial. Do not compare MG to R Kelly. ----- LaCienega said: SoulAlive said: Don't you dare try to compare R.Kelly to Marvin Gaye! Yes,Marvin had "issues" too,but at least he actually had talent and amazing songs.R.Kelly has neither.Let's start the trial today and lock his ass up! Marvin still dated, fucked, and impregnated a underage female. So hes no better than R Kelly. So since marvin had amazing songs he got a pass from you???? Interesting... [Edited 11/30/07 1:58am] [Edited 11/30/07 2:00am] | |
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laurarichardson said: Your getting this shit from that stupid Michael Eric Dyson book. He had not proof and should not have put that in his book.
Marvin was never filmed and about to go on trial. Do not compare MG to R Kelly. ----- LaCienega said: Marvin still dated, fucked, and impregnated a underage female. So hes no better than R Kelly. So since marvin had amazing songs he got a pass from you???? Interesting... [Edited 11/30/07 1:58am] [Edited 11/30/07 2:00am] I wasnt gonna respond to this thread again but had to clear up something. Nona Gayes mother who is Janis Hunter AKA Janis Gaye was under the age of 18 when marvin met her and started fucking her and impregnated her. So yes he can be compared to R Kelly. They both like them young. So quit trying to re-write history or should i say cover up Marvins liking of young ass. Now i'm done with this thread. | |
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Rhondab said: R Kelly needs therapy.
He believes that he can fly. | |
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LaCienega said: laurarichardson said: Your getting this shit from that stupid Michael Eric Dyson book. He had not proof and should not have put that in his book.
Marvin was never filmed and about to go on trial. Do not compare MG to R Kelly. ----- I wasnt gonna respond to this thread again but had to clear up something. Nona Gayes mother who is Janis Hunter AKA Janis Gaye was under the age of 18 when marvin met her and started fucking her and impregnated her. So yes he can be compared to R Kelly. They both like them young. So quit trying to re-write history or should i say cover up Marvins liking of young ass. Now i'm done with this thread. and once again,I say it's stupid to even compare R.Kelly to Marvin.Did Marvin ever make a video of himself pissing on a 14-year old? Did Marvin ever face charges for molesting young girls? Did Marvin ever marry a 15-year old singer that he was writing songs for? If he did these things,please prove it. I'm not saying that Marvin was a saint but unlike R.Kelly,he didn't have a long history of being a child molester.There's no videos of him having sex with underage girls. | |
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SoulAlive said: LaCienega said: I wasnt gonna respond to this thread again but had to clear up something. Nona Gayes mother who is Janis Hunter AKA Janis Gaye was under the age of 18 when marvin met her and started fucking her and impregnated her. So yes he can be compared to R Kelly. They both like them young. So quit trying to re-write history or should i say cover up Marvins liking of young ass. Now i'm done with this thread. and once again,I say it's stupid to even compare R.Kelly to Marvin.Did Marvin ever make a video of himself pissing on a 14-year old? Did Marvin ever face charges for molesting young girls? Did Marvin ever marry a 15-year old singer that he was writing songs for? If he did these things,please prove it. I'm not saying that Marvin was a saint but unlike R.Kelly,he didn't have a long history of being a child molester.There's no videos of him having sex with underage girls. That doesn't really vilify anything Marvin's time wasn't really the video age What are you expecting, finding Marvin givin some 16 year old a Facial on Betamax? You don't know what marvin did, it's futile to compare the two, because it's a different time and age Maybe in this day and age Marvin would be just R.kelly who the hell knows why even bother arguing about it? A persons sexual or personal background has absolutely nothing to do with their talents. No sense in demonizing them as well as putting them on pedestals. end discussion I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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"it's futile to compare the two"
and that's exactly the point I was making all along . [Edited 12/3/07 4:15am] | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: SoulAlive said: and once again,I say it's stupid to even compare R.Kelly to Marvin.Did Marvin ever make a video of himself pissing on a 14-year old? Did Marvin ever face charges for molesting young girls? Did Marvin ever marry a 15-year old singer that he was writing songs for? If he did these things,please prove it. I'm not saying that Marvin was a saint but unlike R.Kelly,he didn't have a long history of being a child molester.There's no videos of him having sex with underage girls. That doesn't really vilify anything Marvin's time wasn't really the video age What are you expecting, finding Marvin givin some 16 year old a Facial on Betamax? You don't know what marvin did, it's futile to compare the two, because it's a different time and age Maybe in this day and age Marvin would be just R.kelly who the hell knows why even bother arguing about it? A persons sexual or personal background has absolutely nothing to do with their talents. No sense in demonizing them as well as putting them on pedestals. end discussion co-sign X_____ | |
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LaCienega said: laurarichardson said: Your getting this shit from that stupid Michael Eric Dyson book. He had not proof and should not have put that in his book.
Marvin was never filmed and about to go on trial. Do not compare MG to R Kelly. ----- I wasnt gonna respond to this thread again but had to clear up something. Nona Gayes mother who is Janis Hunter AKA Janis Gaye was under the age of 18 when marvin met her and started fucking her and impregnated her. So yes he can be compared to R Kelly. They both like them young. So quit trying to re-write history or should i say cover up Marvins liking of young ass. Now i'm done with this thread. ----- Janis was 16 when she met Marvin. I don't remember seeing or reading anything that said she got PG at 16. In addtion, Marvin married Janis when she was over the age of 18. Big difference between meeting someone at 16 and marrying then and having a long history of being a child moslesting freak who like to piss on young girls. You stop defending R Kelly. | |
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jbchavez said: Ne-Yo should go on after Keyshia Cole.
Ne-Yo should go on after R. Kelly. This reminds me of Luther booting EnVogue from his tour in '94 when fans started leaving the concerts after they performed. The fans seemed to have gotten their money's worth and didn't need to hear Luther. It's a jealousy thing. | |
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laurarichardson said: LaCienega said: I wasnt gonna respond to this thread again but had to clear up something. Nona Gayes mother who is Janis Hunter AKA Janis Gaye was under the age of 18 when marvin met her and started fucking her and impregnated her. So yes he can be compared to R Kelly. They both like them young. So quit trying to re-write history or should i say cover up Marvins liking of young ass. Now i'm done with this thread. ----- Janis was 16 when she met Marvin. I don't remember seeing or reading anything that said she got PG at 16. In addtion, Marvin married Janis when she was over the age of 18. Big difference between meeting someone at 16 and marrying then and having a long history of being a child moslesting freak who like to piss on young girls. You stop defending R Kelly. | |
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dseann said: jbchavez said: Ne-Yo should go on after Keyshia Cole.
Ne-Yo should go on after R. Kelly. This reminds me of Luther booting EnVogue from his tour in '94 when fans started leaving the concerts after they performed. The fans seemed to have gotten their money's worth and didn't need to hear Luther. It's a jealousy thing. Luther is another artist who always seemed to have problems with his opening acts....first Anita Baker in 1988,then EnVogue in 1994.My sister was backstage at one of his shows in the late 90s (she knew one of his assistants),and she saw Luther cussing out the opening act Boys II Men. Makes you wonder....why do certain artists even bother touring with other acts? Why not just do a solo tour,even if it means playing smaller venues? Prince and Madonna rarely ever have opening acts these days and it works out fine. | |
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SoulAlive said: dseann said: Ne-Yo should go on after R. Kelly. This reminds me of Luther booting EnVogue from his tour in '94 when fans started leaving the concerts after they performed. The fans seemed to have gotten their money's worth and didn't need to hear Luther. It's a jealousy thing. Luther is another artist who always seemed to have problems with his opening acts....first Anita Baker in 1988,then EnVogue in 1994.My sister was backstage at one of his shows in the late 90s (she knew one of his assistants),and she saw Luther cussing out the opening act Boys II Men. Makes you wonder....why do certain artists even bother touring with other acts? Why not just do a solo tour,even if it means playing smaller venues? Prince and Madonna rarely ever have opening acts these days and it works out fine. Seems like they just have a problem with talented artists. They act humble but get scared shitless by the threat of being outshined. | |
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dseann said: SoulAlive said: Luther is another artist who always seemed to have problems with his opening acts....first Anita Baker in 1988,then EnVogue in 1994.My sister was backstage at one of his shows in the late 90s (she knew one of his assistants),and she saw Luther cussing out the opening act Boys II Men. Makes you wonder....why do certain artists even bother touring with other acts? Why not just do a solo tour,even if it means playing smaller venues? Prince and Madonna rarely ever have opening acts these days and it works out fine. Seems like they just have a problem with talented artists. They act humble but get scared shitless by the threat of being outshined. Crazy,isn't it? And in Luther's case,it didn't make any sense at all.He had no reason to feel threatened. | |
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SoulAlive said: dseann said: Seems like they just have a problem with talented artists. They act humble but get scared shitless by the threat of being outshined. Crazy,isn't it? And in Luther's case,it didn't make any sense at all.He had no reason to feel threatened. In our eyes he had no reason to feel threatened. But obviously, he had alot of insecurities. | |
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dseann said: SoulAlive said: Crazy,isn't it? And in Luther's case,it didn't make any sense at all.He had no reason to feel threatened. In our eyes he had no reason to feel threatened. But obviously, he had alot of insecurities. Indeed. | |
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