The word "coloured" is the term at least Europeans were taught to use in school on English classes all throughout the decades as the politically correct expression for people of African origins ("don't call them black, they will get insulted"). People who have used the internet for a while now and interacted with Americans of course can effectively stay away from using it, as it is just a redundant, artificial expression that merely attempts to be politically correct. But nevertheless, slagging off a non-American for using it is not the way to go. | |
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rebelsoldier said: I agree you on that point. This type of behavior is very common amongst island people, being from an island myself. You get those light skin folks who tend to look down on darker people and will tell you they are not black until they face the reality of it all when they go to a western country. Although I would fuck Rihanna's brain out I always saw her for what she is. It's the same for people from Latin America who think of themselves as being white. About the "colored" statement, what is the preferred nomenclature? I didn't mean any harm by it. I'm a black man for fuck sake and English is like my third language. I didn't want to open up that can of worms and risk having this thread thrown to the politics and religion forum. But, yeah...you know what time it is. My bad on the colored thing. I didn't know. Americans don't use that term anymore. Its considered dated PC to us. Usually "black" is just fine. Some are picky and prefer African-American. I have a problem with hyphenated-American terms. I'm just as American as the caucasians here are; probably moreso since I have Native ancestry on both sides of my family. Just avoid "negro" and the other "n" word and all should be cool. [Edited 11/26/07 0:53am] | |
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rebelsoldier said: anon said: So huge that you left it out.
This is really no big thing. I doubt by your writing/slang etc...that you are a stranger to English and American ways but if you say... So, where is it that you live that you "hear the word coloured used quite often"? I truly wish to know. Please educate. The word is commonly used in many African countries such as South Africa, Namibia and Zimbabwe. I come from the Seychelles but I never said the word is used there, we use the word creole but I'm aware of the word coloured and heard it used on various TV programmes from the above countries. Why do you insist on where I live as if I'm living in ignorance. This is what I find insulting. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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novabrkr said: The word "coloured" is the term at least Europeans were taught to use in school on English classes all throughout the decades as the politically correct expression for people of African origins ("don't call them black, they will get insulted"). People who have used the internet for a while now and interacted with Americans of course can effectively stay away from using it, as it is just a redundant, artificial expression that merely attempts to be politically correct. But nevertheless, slagging off a non-American for using it is not the way to go. Please. He didn't use the word coloured, he used colored. His machine selectively changes the word to the English spelling as it pleases. Anyway that word is no big deal. The "C" in NAACP stands for colored.
I don't know anyone that would be offended as much as curious about what decade the person using the word came from. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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Well, I myself simply used the British spelling of the word, since I happen to prefer to use British English even in written format. It's the same word with the same cultural meanings, essentially.
In many European countries for example, not until the 90s the word "negro" (or its equivalents) contained any direct racist connotations. That word was turnt into a racist expression in Europe merely via American entertainment, and that only (there were however more racist variations of the word in most European languages I think, and they were / are obviously used in the racist sense). Of course I wouldn't use it myself either, but as a pure word it's not actually a bad-sounding word at all. In fact, I've met Africans referring to themselves with the word, so maybe after a few hundred years it can be used again. It is of course a really ridiculous historical situation that we've drifted in where all possibilities definitions for minority groups seem more or less offending from some angle. Fruits of imperialism, I guess. | |
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anon said: novabrkr said: The word "coloured" is the term at least Europeans were taught to use in school on English classes all throughout the decades as the politically correct expression for people of African origins ("don't call them black, they will get insulted"). People who have used the internet for a while now and interacted with Americans of course can effectively stay away from using it, as it is just a redundant, artificial expression that merely attempts to be politically correct. But nevertheless, slagging off a non-American for using it is not the way to go. Please. He didn't use the word coloured, he used colored. His machine selectively changes the word to the English spelling as it pleases. Anyway that word is no big deal. The "C" in NAACP stands for colored.
I don't know anyone that would be offended as much as curious about what decade the person using the word came from. It sounded like sarcasm to me I do sometimes use the "colord folks/Negroes" terms for sarcastic effect when I'm in a close company. | |
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Leave it to the dear ol' Org to run with shit and turn some non-relevant silly ass bullshit into some DEEP HEAVY conversation
She's practically a child for god's sake(Oh yes, age IS a factor). You'd think she's the spokeswoman for some intellectual organization the way you guys cling to every blink of an eye, every pause between her sentence. She's Rihanna, not Condoleezza Rice. Great balls of fire | |
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Harlepolis said: anon said: Please. He didn't use the word coloured, he used colored. His machine selectively changes the word to the English spelling as it pleases. Anyway that word is no big deal. The "C" in NAACP stands for colored.
I don't know anyone that would be offended as much as curious about what decade the person using the word came from. It sounded like sarcasm to me I do sometimes use the "colord folks/Negroes" terms for sarcastic effect when I'm in a close company. You can tell when someone is being provocative for the sake of provocation. I got a kick out of the contradictions. It's so not serious...I was having light fun with him...playing along. In the process, I was educated. I didn't now the word was used, that way, in Africa. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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Harlepolis said: Leave it to the dear ol' Org to run with shit and turn some non-relevant silly ass bullshit into some DEEP HEAVY conversation
Something about the way you bold and colored "Org "...the way you capitalized "DEEP" and "HEAVY" and then the way you paused between "Rice" and "Great balls of fire". Well, let's just say it's a feeling...but I'm sensing some really large burning gay issues here...She's practically a child for god's sake(Oh yes, age IS a factor). You'd think she's the spokeswoman for some intellectual organization the way you guys cling to every blink of an eye, every pause between her sentence. She's Rihanna, not Condoleezza Rice. Great balls of fire Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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anon said: Harlepolis said: Leave it to the dear ol' Org to run with shit and turn some non-relevant silly ass bullshit into some DEEP HEAVY conversation
Something about the way you bold and colored "Org "...the way you capitalized "DEEP" and "HEAVY" and then the way you paused between "Rice" and "Great balls of fire". Well, let's just say it's a feeling...but I'm sensing some really large burning gay issues here...She's practically a child for god's sake(Oh yes, age IS a factor). You'd think she's the spokeswoman for some intellectual organization the way you guys cling to every blink of an eye, every pause between her sentence. She's Rihanna, not Condoleezza Rice. Great balls of fire HAAA! I like you, Anon *pause* alot, actually | |
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anon said: Harlepolis said: It sounded like sarcasm to me I do sometimes use the "colord folks/Negroes" terms for sarcastic effect when I'm in a close company. You can tell when someone is being provocative for the sake of provocation. I got a kick out of the contradictions. It's so not serious...I was having light fun with him...playing along. In the process, I was educated. I didn't now the word was used, that way, in Africa. Well the same way I didn't realise that the word was offensive to Americans, that's why I said I wasn't familiar with the word "colored". When I said I hear it often it wasn't in the American sense of things and you came out all guns blazing while being in the same position that I was. I thought they all meant the same thing and I use a lot of these words interchangeably. Maybe my English is just that bad. I gotta make sure I adjust to English not to offend anyone. I'm sorry. | |
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rebelsoldier said: anon said: I thought, at first, that this is how he used it. But he then expressed that he was unfamiliar with the term....even though, in that same sentence, he admits to hearing it "used quite often". In the post that followed, he then expressed how the "U" in those words "makes a huge difference"...he was suddenly an expert on a word that he was unfamiliar with, a post earlier.
You can tell when someone is being provocative for the sake of provocation. I got a kick out of the contradictions. It's so not serious...I was having light fun with him...playing along. In the process, I was educated. I didn't now the word was used, that way, in Africa. Well the same way I didn't realise that the word was offensive to Americans, that's why I said I wasn't familiar with the word "colored". When I said I hear it often it wasn't in the American sense of things and you came out all guns blazing while being in the same position that I was. I thought they all meant the same thing and I use a lot of these words interchangeably. Maybe my English is just that bad. I gotta make sure I adjust to English not to offend anyone. I'm sorry. Its all good, man. Don't worry about it. Seriously though, this chick has identity issues. I'm wondering when they are going to surface more with the public. | |
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