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Reply #90 posted 11/12/07 3:41pm

Graycap23

dragondayz said:

Swizz Beats actually produced the bonus song,

I'm listening to Lesson Learned right now and it's a bit mind boggling how anyone can possibly like that song. I just don't understand.

On I Need You she had the perfect opportunity to kill it at the end on the piano, but as usual, she kept it simple.

I'm actually starting to wonder if she even knows how to play the piano? confused

I think Alicia has brilliant ideas, but she doesn't know how to execute them properly or really build on them. She wows me a lot, but it's always in short spurts.

Classically trained my ass. She can memorized a hand full of so called classic songs. This woman is a POSER plain and simple.
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Reply #91 posted 11/12/07 3:49pm

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Graycap23 said:

dragondayz said:

Swizz Beats actually produced the bonus song,

I'm listening to Lesson Learned right now and it's a bit mind boggling how anyone can possibly like that song. I just don't understand.

On I Need You she had the perfect opportunity to kill it at the end on the piano, but as usual, she kept it simple.

I'm actually starting to wonder if she even knows how to play the piano? confused

I think Alicia has brilliant ideas, but she doesn't know how to execute them properly or really build on them. She wows me a lot, but it's always in short spurts.

Classically trained my ass. She can memorized a hand full of so called classic songs. This woman is a POSER plain and simple.


Booty Munchin'! Anyway, her playing of that classical piece from the intermission of the "Girlfriend" video was the stuff of legends. That is, if it wasn't mimed. neutral
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Reply #92 posted 11/12/07 4:01pm

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Graycap23 said:

dragondayz said:

Swizz Beats actually produced the bonus song,

I'm listening to Lesson Learned right now and it's a bit mind boggling how anyone can possibly like that song. I just don't understand.

On I Need You she had the perfect opportunity to kill it at the end on the piano, but as usual, she kept it simple.

I'm actually starting to wonder if she even knows how to play the piano? confused

I think Alicia has brilliant ideas, but she doesn't know how to execute them properly or really build on them. She wows me a lot, but it's always in short spurts.

Classically trained my ass. She can memorized a hand full of so called classic songs. This woman is a POSER plain and simple.



so you guys just don't even think she's talented? i can't speak on her piano playing at all since i'm not a musician but i do like her voice and i think "no one" is a damn good song. i think she's talented!
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Reply #93 posted 11/12/07 4:04pm

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The girl is mad pretty. Anyone seen her on iconoclasts with Ruby Dee. Have we figured out whether she is a lesbian or not?
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Reply #94 posted 11/12/07 4:10pm

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WTF.....

The instrumental of alicia key's song "NO one" is insanely simliar to black eyeed peas's "Where is the love" ....WTF.....Timbaland deserves to be ..I don't know eek
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Reply #95 posted 11/12/07 4:15pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

WTF.....

The instrumental of alicia key's song "NO one" is insanely simliar to black eyeed peas's "Where is the love" ....WTF.....Timbaland deserves to be ..I don't know eek


I wonder if he got a half a mil for that one.
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Reply #96 posted 11/12/07 4:25pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

WTF.....

The instrumental of alicia key's song "NO one" is insanely simliar to black eyeed peas's "Where is the love" ....WTF.....Timbaland deserves to be ..I don't know eek


Timbaland didn't produce that. Alicia and her partner did.

As far as her playing, I saw old footage of her when she was about 13/14 playing some classical song. It didn't look or seem extremely difficult, but I know for sure that I couldn't play it. lol
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Reply #97 posted 11/12/07 4:44pm

Janfriend

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midnightmover said:

Fashion is often just foolishness on a mass scale.


Sigged!
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I don't know what y'all were expecting. She was signed by Clive Davis. The man is here to put out calculated, one hit pop bullshit. The fact that she's still around is because she does what Clive tells her to do. If Clive tells her to put out an album of tepid, half-baked, boring, hip hop influenced crap, that's what she's gotta do if she wants to have a career. i don't know that she's above the stuff she's putting out, but she's certainly not a big enough star to break away from Clive.

She has said in the past Clive lets her do what she wants. I really don't think Clive would tell her to make some of the mediocre stuff she has done. She has only had one phenomenal song per album. This one doesn't have anything on there that I think will be a major power hit
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Reply #98 posted 11/12/07 4:45pm

Janfriend

lilgish said:

The girl is mad pretty. Anyone seen her on iconoclasts with Ruby Dee. Have we figured out whether she is a lesbian or not?

Well, the way she was singing to Ruby on the piano.... I've seen her sing that way to other women, like she was in love
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Reply #99 posted 11/12/07 5:28pm

dragondayz

FarrahMoan said:

Graycap23 said:


Classically trained my ass. She can memorized a hand full of so called classic songs. This woman is a POSER plain and simple.


Booty Munchin'! Anyway, her playing of that classical piece from the intermission of the "Girlfriend" video was the stuff of legends. That is, if it wasn't mimed. neutral

http://www.dailymotion.co...iend_music

Alicia was so overrated to me back then so I thought everything she did was overrated. I saw this video the other day and finally realized that was a really nice little piece. If I'm not mistaken, I think Alicia and Ray Chew composed it.
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Reply #100 posted 11/12/07 7:44pm

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I said weeks ago she was going to get handed her ass for sampling PR. neutral



Adisa said:

Ellie said:

Here's another one calle Like You'll Never See Me Again:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...HAMuefOZ5s

Is it sampling the end of Purple Rain?

Yep. lol I heard it yesterday on the way home. Right after the song the deejay lit into her about making sure she gives Prince some songwriting credit. Then people started calling in the station with all sorts of Prince references.
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Reply #101 posted 11/12/07 10:56pm

goat2004

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Alicia Keys sucks. All her songs sound the same. She can take that tough girl act some place else




Smooches;)


duh wow, this thread is pretty rough...WTF? Her music sounds better than 75% of the R&B music on the fucking radio right now.
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Reply #102 posted 11/13/07 11:12am

Janfriend

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MsMisha319 said:

Alicia Keys sucks. All her songs sound the same. She can take that tough girl act some place else




Smooches;)


duh wow, this thread is pretty rough...WTF? Her music sounds better than 75% of the R&B music on the fucking radio right now.

Which is why everyone thinks she's a genius, but she's not. If you have F grade crap on the radio, C grade crap is going to sound like a miracle from the Heavens
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Reply #103 posted 11/13/07 12:11pm

Scorpion

I really like "Lesson Learned". I would have liked to have heard more of John Mayer tho. Other than his musicianship maybe, his presence is kinda pointless.
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #104 posted 11/13/07 12:18pm

Graycap23

Janfriend said:

goat2004 said:



duh wow, this thread is pretty rough...WTF? Her music sounds better than 75% of the R&B music on the fucking radio right now.

Which is why everyone thinks she's a genius, but she's not. If you have F grade crap on the radio, C grade crap is going to sound like a miracle from the Heavens

Exactly.....
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Reply #105 posted 11/13/07 4:38pm

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Reply #106 posted 11/13/07 5:19pm

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As i stated before on alicia while she is talented, she hasn't done nothing that people in my age group 37 and up haven't seen. I guess to the new generation what she does is considered extraordinary because only about 10 percent actually plays music in some form. She produces,composes, and arranges her own music. So what roberta flack did that thirty something years ago. Patrice Rushen and teena marie have been doing it since the late 70's. I like the radio singles somewhat from alicia's first album but the rest of it sucked big time. Her second album was pretty good imo. I am just not feeling the songs from this new release. No one sucks ass big time. That song is just plain horrible. Also the way alicia composes her music is stale in comparison to the way roberta,teena, and patrice did it. They would take their time and select outstanding musicians to perform and perfect their craft where sometimes alicia's music sounds like it was composed for romper room.
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Reply #107 posted 11/13/07 5:49pm

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I haven't heard the whole CD yet (playing it now) but I like it.

This CD sounds very honest, flaws and all.
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Reply #108 posted 11/13/07 6:14pm

GreenLeaves

I've always been underwhelmed by her work.
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Reply #109 posted 11/13/07 8:53pm

Janfriend

dragondayz said:


Oh God
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Reply #110 posted 11/13/07 9:05pm

Janfriend

The video for that Purple Rain song is going to sell this album

http://www.mtv.com/overdr...vid=188551
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Reply #111 posted 11/14/07 3:45am

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Janfriend said:

The video for that Purple Rain song is going to sell this album

http://www.mtv.com/overdr...vid=188551


Sounds more like a Sign O The Times song!
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Reply #112 posted 11/14/07 5:09am

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Janfriend said:

The video for that Purple Rain song is going to sell this album

http://www.mtv.com/overdr...vid=188551



I think you may be right. People love a good drama video. I like Common and Alicia on film together.
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Reply #113 posted 11/14/07 7:01am

dragondayz

What a good review. I think this pretty much sums it up!
http://www.buffalonews.co...06544.html
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Reply #114 posted 11/14/07 7:37am

Graycap23

dragondayz said:

What a good review. I think this pretty much sums it up!
http://www.buffalonews.co...06544.html

2 bad the cd is not as good as the review.
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Reply #115 posted 11/14/07 12:09pm

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As i stated before on alicia while she is talented, she hasn't done nothing that people in my age group 37 and up haven't seen. I guess to the new generation what she does is considered extraordinary because only about 10 percent actually plays music in some form. She produces,composes, and arranges her own music. So what roberta flack did that thirty something years ago. Patrice Rushen and teena marie have been doing it since the late 70's. I like the radio singles somewhat from alicia's first album but the rest of it sucked big time. Her second album was pretty good imo. I am just not feeling the songs from this new release. No one sucks ass big time. That song is just plain horrible. Also the way alicia composes her music is stale in comparison to the way roberta,teena, and patrice did it. They would take their time and select outstanding musicians to perform and perfect their craft where sometimes alicia's music sounds like it was composed for romper room.


I generally agree. For the most part, I like her first two albums. Nothing grondbreaking, but really solid and some great songs. I haven't heard the new album in full yet, but I think "No One" is horrible and her vocals are awful. And, I'm saying this about an artist I generally like. Hope the rest of the album is better.
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Reply #116 posted 11/14/07 4:51pm

Janfriend

dragondayz said:

What a good review. I think this pretty much sums it up!
http://www.buffalonews.co...06544.html

That is a good review, however, I have heard her say numerous times she grew up on hip hop and wants to incorporate that in her music. I never got the impression she was stifled. Someone told me she really wanted that older audience which is why she's heavy on the remaking and sampling of old songs. Most of her fans are younger than her and probably don't know alot of what she's biting. I've been on her message boards. They're not too bright

I guess that reviewer is still keeping hope in Pandora's box, since this is only her 3rd studo album, but I think the only way for Alicia to wow any of us skeptics is to break away from r&b all together and go Elton Johninsh. Shit, I prefer her contemporaries piano playing opposed to hers: Vanessa Carlton, John Legend, and Taylor Hanson. She should collaborate with all of them. Leave Krucial to just drum programming
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Reply #117 posted 11/14/07 5:18pm

dragondayz

Janfriend said:

dragondayz said:

What a good review. I think this pretty much sums it up!
http://www.buffalonews.co...06544.html

That is a good review, however, I have heard her say numerous times she grew up on hip hop and wants to incorporate that in her music. I never got the impression she was stifled. Someone told me she really wanted that older audience which is why she's heavy on the remaking and sampling of old songs. Most of her fans are younger than her and probably don't know alot of what she's biting. I've been on her message boards. They're not too bright

I guess that reviewer is still keeping hope in Pandora's box, since this is only her 3rd studo album, but I think the only way for Alicia to wow any of us skeptics is to break away from r&b all together and go Elton Johninsh. Shit, I prefer her contemporaries piano playing opposed to hers: Vanessa Carlton, John Legend, and Taylor Hanson. She should collaborate with all of them. Leave Krucial to just drum programming


That's why I like it on here. I don't want to be blind to what she bites.

I don't want her to break away from RnB. I think she's trying to break a way from it now, and it's not "fitting" her as well in my opinion. I was a little clearer on what I wanted to hear from her, now I'm not so sure.
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Reply #118 posted 11/20/07 2:35pm

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alicia keys has always been boring.... and NEVER had any sex appeal... she has nice features.. but just nothing sexy about her


she is trying right now to have sex appeal... but im not buying it... and every video she is playing a piano.....

im sorry i just like artist who are more exciting..... flower
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Reply #119 posted 11/20/07 2:51pm

dragondayz

There is no piano in her new video.

Anyway, I LOVE the CD now. eek I just "got it" yesterday and it's brilliant. Of course, there are talented people that deserve the same success Alicia has, but this is probably one of the best commercial CD's this year.

The music isn't the same as on SIAM, but Alicia has picked it up lyrically. The piano touches that she adds on songs like No One, LYNSMA(the beginning), and Lesson Learned(the bridge) are brilliant, just for the simple fact that she doesn't do too much or too little, but lets her talent be shown.
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