PatrickS77 said:

Yeha. Judging from the Ebony interview, it looks like MJ is more interested in other media, such as film.

PatrickS77 said:

yeah, I think Mike said that himself though in his last interview.

PatrickS77 said:

Around about 12, which is at least 8 or 9 more than MJ. Those include a fifteen minute spectacular at the Superbowl this year which was among the best of his career, and which kicked holy shit out of MJ's fake-ass pantomime job in 1993. The Brit Awards performance from last year was another 15 minute masterclass performed totally live. MJ's one "performance" in the last 5 years was an unrehearsed, shambolic disaster in which he only sang about three lines in a voice so soft you could barely hear it. As for interviews Prince has given at least twenty in the last few years on radio, TV, and in magazines. But of course it's the performances that count. Prince has given the best TV performances by any artist in recent years. No mean feat for a man pushing 50.


Too expensive? P's tickets are the most reasonably priced of any artist out there of his stature. As for them being too far away, let me tell you, it's a lot easier to get to a Prince concert than an MJ concert, since the only way you could get to an MJ concert would be to invent a time machine. Damn, where's Michael J Fox when you need him?

I am curious: What is the story around the song Xscape?

PatrickS77 said:

It sure isn't. Neither are facts. P started touring in 1979. That makes it 38 years of almost constant live performing. I think it would be fair to say P has probably given about 3 times as many live performances in his career as MJ has.

midnightmover said:

Ummm... 2007 minus 1979 is not 38. It's 28.

Rodya24 said:

Typo.

Rodya24 said:

LMAO, okay I admit... we're both bad at maths ...

midnightmover said:

but of course, you can't admit that... wow, "28" instead of "about 27"... sorry for the terrible mistake! And I already said, that I think Prince has given more concerts than Michael!

And still... you hate the albums! What TV appearances has he had except Grammy's, NAACP Awards, Brit Awards, Superbowl, American Idol (about which many of you say he has sold out) and Hall of Fame! I saw 1 Interview! And it's not like Michael hasn't had TV Specials, performances and interviews in the last couple of years!

Well, for me it is no problem to get to any concert in the world, if I wanted too! But I saw some fans complain this summer, that they didn't get to see Prince live! And the casual fan probably won't travel to Las Vegas or London or pay, how much was it in New York, 3000 $, to see Prince!

PatrickS77 said:

Well, that's a pretty long list already, lol. You can add to it Saturday Night Live, BET Awards, UK Hall Of Fame, etc, and most importantly his TV performances have been lengthy, totally live and tremendously well received. Your punch-drunk, washed-up idol hasn't sang live on a TV show in about 15 years. The performances he's given have been disasters that the fans are still trying to make excuses for. No Prince fan had to make excuses when P stole the show at The Brit Awards. We just sat back and watched the plaudits roll in. Same goes for his Superbowl performance. And his Hall Of Fame performance. He won people over with his TALENT! Not by calling hot producers or shit boybands like NSync. As for the interviews, he's given at least twenty since 2004. There've been threads on most of them in the P:M&M forum. If you missed 'em, too bad.


Tickets for P's 21 dates in London cost only 31 pounds. You know that as well as I do so quit playing dumb. The New York gig was just one gig. Stop twisting things. It's very devious. As for getting to P's shows, it's a lot easier to get a plane to London to see P than to get a time machine to 1997 to see MJ. Or do you disagree with that?

midnightmover said:

Well, if he would call hot producers you probably wouldn't hate his recent albums that much!


Read my previous posts... only the most devoted fans are able to see him! And I told you already... you got the concerts going for you (and by that we can include live performances on TV) and I wish that Michael would take note on those!

PatrickS77 said:

Read MY previous post. It's easier to see P than it is to see MJ. Therefore P wins.

LOL whatever! I gave you the concerts pages ago! The concert thing is the only thing I envy you Prince fans... other than that I'm happy with Michael!
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midnightmover said:

Ouch! Thats low.

Bishop31 said:

REAL low!

Timmy84 said:

He didn't even have 2 go there..I was just talking about MJ's fan treatment..then BOOM. Insults start flying!

You know, I never been a MJ fan. Yet, I have noticed how he's treated his fans. I've seen nothing but respect. Prince used to, American Bandstand and such. But as time passed, I don't know...Prince is turning out to be the weridest between the two.

Well, they're both weird!

Bishop31 said:

I know but that's how it rolls in the Org.

Timmy84 said:

Yep. I too was wondering how it went from how Michael treats and respects his fans to another Michael bash.

Yeah, we have no excuse for Michael's crappy past couple of years just like how Prince fans have no excuses for the current legal attacks on HIS OWN FANS(us!) and albums like 3121 and Planet Earth. Some people actually like both of their performances, but there's no way around the hate sometimes, right?

midnightmover, you went pretty low there, man.
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bboy87 said:

I feel u man. What it comes down 2 is respect. Right now it just feels like Prince doesn't value his fans as much as MJ does. The only reason I compare these 2 is because they both have a similar wild & crazy as a Mutha-- fanbase. I was just really dissapointed that Prince doesn't give his fans the same apprciation that MJ does.

Regardless of the current production that MJ is NOT doing as compared 2 Prince. Ur fanbase is what made U who U were & who U will ever be...Mj isn't even putting out Records like Prince. So it should be Prince that is worrying about keeping us happy. Afterall nowadays its only the hardcores that are even buying his records. MJ can put an album out 2day & Non-fans will buy it just because its MJ & they're interested...just my opinion.

Bishop31 said:

And there it is

bboy87 said:

Whoomp there it is! ....(ol' school joint)

PatrickS77 said:

so if u wanna see someone dancing u should have checked out real dancers. thats not an excuse. james brown, jackie wilson, prince, TTD etc were all great dancers too!

he cant sing anymore and as he got old cannot dance as before. so basically what does he have to offer? hhhmmm...lip synching with mediocre dancing. i wonder why he doesnt tour anymore. hes been supergreat but not anymore.

electrorock said:

You can reawaken the muscle memory
and re-strengthen your vocal chords
you can do those things as long as you had the talent before
talent never extinguishes

EmbattledWarrior said:

So true. Its just a matter of MJ getting hungry again like he was when he made Thriller. That may be impossible now for him to do since he is so popular now...but he just needs some kinda motivation to put in the necessary work in that can bring him back to form.

Bishop31 said:

Bullshit. Fans do not make an artist, God does. I'm a Prince fan, but I didn't teach him how to play the guitar or do the splits. He taught himself that without any help from me. He doesn't owe me jack shit. Newsflash. Fans do not support artists out of the goodness of their hearts. I did not buy Purple Rain because I wanted to do Prince a favour. I bought it because I knew I'd enjoy it. I got the music, he got my money. It was a fair exchange, so there is no debt incurred on either side. You guys take shit too personally. "Prince, MJ, we love you, so please.....LOVE US BACK!! **sob sob**".


At this stage of P's career, albums are no longer as important as his live shows. I can assure you, Prince didn't sell out 21 nights in London by appealing only to harcore fans. He's picking up new fans and recapturing lost ones all the time with the strength of his live work. I can assure you he does not need to lick the public's ass to get them to see him. They go because of the QUALITY OF THE WORK! MJ can fellate his fans all day long. It won't make his shows any better, and it won't make me any more interested.

LOL

You're the biggest closet MJ fan on this forum.

midnightmover said:

midnightmover said:

I agree that God does make the Artist. Very true. I meant that we make them as far as putting money in there pockets from Album Sales, Concert Tickets, etc...for that I believe we should be at least valued by the artist..right??




Good point. Album sales are not Prince's focus. But, threats 2 his fans can certainly ruin his Mass Appeal. And that can turn off the newbies which haven't got as deep into Fandom as the Hardcores have.
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bboy87 said:

The answer is simple. Because there are two threads here trying to claw back some brownie points for MJ on the basis of P's current actions, which have nothing to do with MJ. It would be like me starting a thread in 2003 saying "Aha! Prince is smarter than MJ 'cos he knows not to hang with little boys". That would just be stupid.

MJ can't attack his fans because there all he's got left. They are the ones fighting the ground war against the millions who think he's a freak. They are the ones who remind him he used to be popular. They're all he's got, and furthermore, has it ever occured to you that Mike probably isn't even interested in his career enough to get involved in that kind of thing? Prince is still very much interested and involved. That doesn't mean I approve of his actions, but MJ fans should think carefully when comparing P's situation with Michael. The bottom line is, it's better to be a P fan now than an MJ fan. There was a thread here just the other day saying how the MJ boards are dying a death. The reason for that is because they've got nothing interesting to talk about, cos their man has been chilling for years.

papaaisaway said:

I mean interested in his work. I'm probably one of the few people on this website who doesn't own a copy of Invincible. I never bought it beacuse I knew Mike was past it. I realised that 10 years ago when I saw the History Tour (and the video to BOTD). Ten years later and some of you are still daydreaming about a comeback.

P.S. I have to say it's only the org that still keeps him on my radar. It's the same thing with Janet. I find myself tussling with her fans here a lot, but I hadn't thought about her in years before I joined this website. I haven't heard any of her albums since Velvet Rope. The org does funny things to you. I find myself in in depth discussions about record sales, something I wouldn't even care about normally.