It's insane, though. Bruce is good enough for 60 minutes, the Today Show, and a million other places, but not radio?

And why ban the music? If people don't like it, it won't become a hit. What's the purpose in banning it?

lastdecember said:

I feel the ones who have longevity will always have healthy sales even if none of their songs get played on radio. But compared to rock acts, older R&B acts still get played on some urban stations regardless of what the song is. I know one station I listen to will play a new song by an oldie but goodie artist every once in a while and they usually get a hit on the Adult R&B chart, which I consider a REAL chart now.

Timmy84 said:

Yeah ROCK is pretty much dead because of the likes of the Fall Out Boys and their clones. Rick Springfield came out with a single recently through iTunes called "Who Killed Rock n Roll" and the first line of the song is "Rap put the bullet in Rock N Roll's head", pretty much sums up alot of things right there. And the scarier thing is Rick is also 58, which means PLAY...NO WAY at radio, and he's rock harder than any of these "rock acts" that are out there now. True longevity is always the key but when artists like the Bruce's, Prince's etc stop recording, who will have longevity? labels will be scrambling to keep signing these one hit wonder rap acts, who have stupid sayings, just to keep their heads above water.

lastdecember said:

This is why I'm waiting for what is considered "rap and hip-hop" to finally have a true backlash.

Ultimately, the older artists will have the last laugh, because even with little or no airplay of their new music, their concerts pull in more money and are usually the top draws in year end polls. Obviously, it doesn't hurt that they can sell their tickets at much higher prices.
A lot of younger artists can put together slick, radio ready CDs, but they have no live skills. They suck on stage and no one wants to see them. After one or two hit songs or albums, they're gone and forgotton. But the older artists continue to draw audiences and dollars.
That's why now I don't worry about Prince having hits or whether his music career will survive without them. I just sit back and enjoy his music knowing that as long as he's physically able to make music and tour, he will stand head and shoulders above most of the so-called "hot" artists of the moment.

Because if people like it and it's not shit hop, it might endanger shit hop from dominating and it might go out of style. If shit hop goes out of style, music would cost more to make and the profits would be less for the record labels. Clear Channel knows what they are doing. I think they and the record labels are in this together.

They will play a song by an older R&B artist only if it's a slow song. Just look at Prince for example. They will play the hell out of "Future Baby Mama" but's it's damn rediculous that an R&B station would not play a song like "Chelsae Rodgers".

They don't really see slow songs as a threat to shit hop because as long as there are lovers out there, slow music will always be around in some shape or form and there's nothing they can do about it. "Chelsae Rodgers" is exactly the kind of jam that R&B stations need to be playing because if it caught on, people might start throwing down hard again. They aren't going to let that happen though because fast jams with real music catching on could definately threaten shit hop's dominance.

vainandy said:

Exactly, Chelsea Rodgers would never get played on any station. Prince's radio hits the last 10-15 years have all been slow jams, Call my Name, Somebodys Somebody, The One etc...

vainandy said:

Good points.

Alasseon said:

Maybe Soulja Boy fucks for tracks and airplay?

bboy87 said:

Ban crunk, that's my thing.

vainandy said:

your hatred of that style of music aside, that's a pretty good point.
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vainandy said:

READ: Payola!

lastdecember said:

No wonder Black Sweat or Fury never became the hits it could've been. Clear Channel were overplaying Satisfy.

NDRU said:

Its more than a point it is a FACT that was recently discussed in an article about the industry and what it did all through the soundscan era and continues to do today. I know we sit back and rip apart songs by the likes of J HOLIDAY and SOULJA etc.. but this is where they make their money, and NO these artists arent getting it at all, they are getting a check, a little spotlight and then its NEXT on the assembly line. The labels make tons on these cats, from ringtones, which cost nothing, and nets the artists NOTHING, the 99cent downloads make them nothing, this is pure 100% profit for the labels. And a further point about these cats and many others, if you think all that bling in vids is theirs, dream on, 90% is rented and passed on throughout each video and recycled, so the cars, the bottles, the cash, the girls etc.. none of it is theirs, with a select few that actually make some $$. A girl i know that has done a few videos told me, they wheel the stuff in and then they wheel it out after the video, she told me that she got paid more for her minute of camera time than the actual artist.

TonyVanDam said:

Yeah i mean the labels dont even send his tracks to Top40 anymore or even RB anymore if they are uptempo. Back in 1997 they sent Holy River over to top 40, it went nowhere, in 1999 they sent So Far SO pleased with Gwen to top 40, no one cared to play it. I know people say that Elton John has just become an AC singer at this point with his hits, but so has Prince in a way.