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Bruce Springsteen banned by Clear Channel

Check this crap out:

Bruce: Magic Refused Radio Play

Bruce Springsteen should be very happy. He has the No. 1 album, a possible Grammy for Best Album of the Year for "Magic," an album full of singles and a sold-out concert tour.

Alas, there’s a hitch: Radio will not play "Magic." In fact, sources tell me that Clear Channel has sent an edict to its classic rock stations not to play tracks from "Magic." But it’s OK to play old Springsteen tracks such as "Dancing in the Dark," "Born to Run" and "Born in the USA."

Just no new songs by Springsteen, even though it’s likely many radio listeners already own the album and would like to hear it mixed in with the junk offered on radio.

Why? One theory, says a longtime rock insider, "is that the audience knows those songs. Of course, they’ll never know these songs if no one plays them."

"Magic," by the way, has sold more than 500,000 copies since its release on Oct. 2 and likely will hit the million mark. That’s not a small achievement these days, and one that should be embraced by Clear Channel.

But what a situation: The No. 1 album is not being played on any radio stations, according to Radio & Records, which monitors such things. Nothing. The rock songs aren’t on rock radio, and the two standout "mellow" tracks — "Magic" and "Devil’s Arcade" — aren’t even on "lite" stations.

The singles-kinda hits, "Radio Nowhere" and "Living in the Future" — which would have been hits no questions asked in the '70s, '80s and maybe even the '90s, also are absent from Top 40.

What to do? Columbia Records is said to be readying a remixed version of "The Girls in their Summer Clothes," a poppy Beach Boys-type track that has such a catchy hook fans were singing along to it at live shows before they had the album. Bruce insiders are hopeful that with a push from Sony, "Girls" will triumph.

I’m not so sure.

Clear Channel seems to have sent a clear message to other radio outlets that at age 58, Springsteen simply is too old to be played on rock stations. This completely absurd notion is one of many ways Clear Channel has done more to destroy the music business than downloading over the last 10 years. It’s certainly what’s helped create satellite radio, where Springsteen is a staple and even has his own channel on Sirius.

It’s not just Springsteen. There is no sign at major radio stations of new albums by John Fogerty or Annie Lennox, either. The same stations that should be playing Santana’s new singles with Chad Kroeger or Tina Turner are avoiding them, too.

Like Springsteen, these "older" artists have been relegated to something called Triple A format stations — i.e. either college radio or small artsy stations such as WFUV in the Bronx, N.Y., which are immune from the Clear Channel virus of pre-programming and where the number of plays per song is a fraction of what it is on commercial radio.

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http://www.foxnews.com/st...64,00.html
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Reply #1 posted 11/01/07 5:34pm

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Clear Channel is the devil
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Reply #2 posted 11/01/07 5:37pm

Anxiety

geezers are the new rebels

teenagers are the new establishment

old is the new young
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Reply #3 posted 11/01/07 5:39pm

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Anxiety said:

geezers are the new rebels

teenagers are the new establishment

old is the new young


SO TRUE!

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Reply #4 posted 11/01/07 5:41pm

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Anxiety said:

geezers are the new rebels

teenagers are the new establishment

old is the new young

funny how life just recycles itself eh?
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Reply #5 posted 11/01/07 7:37pm

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Anxiety said:

geezers are the new rebels

teenagers are the new establishment

old is the new young


Yep. But I actually love it because that's mean the older you get the more you hate to be conformed. I hope Bruce goes independent after this. Suckas!
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Reply #6 posted 11/01/07 7:40pm

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the music industry keeps shooting itself in the foot over and over and over and over again.

And of course they don't see it. They just blame downloaders, i.e. the very audience they should be trying to woo, not further alienate.
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Reply #7 posted 11/01/07 7:57pm

Timmy84

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the music industry keeps shooting itself in the foot over and over and over and over again.

And of course they don't see it. They just blame downloaders, i.e. the very audience they should be trying to woo, not further alienate.


Let them do their shit, they're just making their graves deeper and deeper.
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Reply #8 posted 11/01/07 8:30pm

Anxiety

Timmy84 said:

Anxiety said:

geezers are the new rebels

teenagers are the new establishment

old is the new young


Yep. But I actually love it because that's mean the older you get the more you hate to be conformed. I hope Bruce goes independent after this. Suckas!



yeah, but how did gen x let its kids get so conservative and lame? confuse
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Reply #9 posted 11/01/07 9:12pm

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According to this, Clear Channel hasn't banned Bruce for political reasons - but they are still shooting themselves in the foot.

http://ltradio.blogspot.c...where.html

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Reply #10 posted 11/01/07 9:17pm

Timmy84

Anxiety said:

Timmy84 said:



Yep. But I actually love it because that's mean the older you get the more you hate to be conformed. I hope Bruce goes independent after this. Suckas!



yeah, but how did gen x let its kids get so conservative and lame? confuse


Beats me. It's weird how now if teenagers rebel, that it's the norm compared to 30 years ago when that rebellion was what made youth strive but now it seems like the "geezers" are more "down" with rebellion than the much younger counterparts are.
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Reply #11 posted 11/01/07 9:19pm

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i heard radio nowhere on the radio and thought it was an old bruce springsteen song that i didn't know as i don't know that many of his songs and then after it was over i changed the station and heard it again and thought what are the odds and then found out it was the new single. it has such an intensity to it. love, love, love it and have been listening to it for weeks now. i, however was not listening to the pop or r&b stations at the time and haven't listened to the radio in about 3 weeks now and haven't seen anything on the telly about it either. that song should be as inescapable as his old stuff
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Reply #12 posted 11/01/07 11:12pm

Illustrator

I also have been banned from Clear Channel.
And just like "the Boss", I have no clear reason why.
I'm not even in the music industry.
Hell,
I don't even have a job.
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Reply #13 posted 11/01/07 11:21pm

Timmy84

Illustrator said:

I also have been banned from Clear Channel.
And just like "the Boss", I have no clear reason why.
I'm not even in the music industry.
Hell,
I don't even have a job.


lol What was the reason? lol
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Reply #14 posted 11/01/07 11:27pm

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geezers are the new rebels

teenagers are the new establishment

old is the new young

hmmm That's one way of putting it Anx.
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Reply #15 posted 11/02/07 12:56am

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I haven't heard Bruce's new song but as much as I hate Clear Channel, I agree that a new song from an old artist should not be played on an oldies station. For example, a song from either Rick James or Teena Marie's latest albums would sound horrible on an oldies station next to jams like "Hard To Get" or "Behind The Groove" because the new songs wouldn't fit in with the station's format at all.

However, a new song by an old artist should definately be played on stations that play current music. I mean, if a hard funk jam like The Barkays' "Put A Little Nasty On It" had been played on current radio in the 1990s and more new funk songs at the time had been played, we might not be in the musical rut we are in now because the shit hop sound might have had a chance to go out of style like it should.
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Reply #16 posted 11/02/07 2:05am

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runnin' out to buy the album right now!

to hell with radio!
[Edited 11/2/07 2:05am]
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Reply #17 posted 11/02/07 2:15am

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kev1n said:

runnin' out to buy the album right now!

to hell with radio!
[Edited 11/2/07 2:05am]



That's the spirit! It's a good album.
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Reply #18 posted 11/02/07 2:20am

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Well all this crap comes from NO FREEDOM for DJ's, why do they even employ dj's if they cant pick what they want. Shit in the 60's all the way to the 80's DJ's played full albums at times, they played Bsides, they played album cuts, NOW they are given a list, of about 10-15 songs to play nonstop and thats it, they cant stray from the formula or the format at all, and thats why you have this stagnation in the music business. This is why when labels blame downloading and cd prices for the falling sales its a joke, mainly its a joke because the FAT CATS in the SUITS are getting paid just as much as they were when the business was booming, in fact they make more now.

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NuPwr319 said:

Check this crap out:

Bruce: Magic Refused Radio Play

Bruce Springsteen should be very happy. He has the No. 1 album, a possible Grammy for Best Album of the Year for "Magic," an album full of singles and a sold-out concert tour.

Alas, there’s a hitch: Radio will not play "Magic." In fact, sources tell me that Clear Channel has sent an edict to its classic rock stations not to play tracks from "Magic." But it’s OK to play old Springsteen tracks such as "Dancing in the Dark," "Born to Run" and "Born in the USA."

Just no new songs by Springsteen, even though it’s likely many radio listeners already own the album and would like to hear it mixed in with the junk offered on radio.

Why? One theory, says a longtime rock insider, "is that the audience knows those songs. Of course, they’ll never know these songs if no one plays them."

"Magic," by the way, has sold more than 500,000 copies since its release on Oct. 2 and likely will hit the million mark. That’s not a small achievement these days, and one that should be embraced by Clear Channel.

But what a situation: The No. 1 album is not being played on any radio stations, according to Radio & Records, which monitors such things. Nothing. The rock songs aren’t on rock radio, and the two standout "mellow" tracks — "Magic" and "Devil’s Arcade" — aren’t even on "lite" stations.

The singles-kinda hits, "Radio Nowhere" and "Living in the Future" — which would have been hits no questions asked in the '70s, '80s and maybe even the '90s, also are absent from Top 40.

What to do? Columbia Records is said to be readying a remixed version of "The Girls in their Summer Clothes," a poppy Beach Boys-type track that has such a catchy hook fans were singing along to it at live shows before they had the album. Bruce insiders are hopeful that with a push from Sony, "Girls" will triumph.

I’m not so sure.

Clear Channel seems to have sent a clear message to other radio outlets that at age 58, Springsteen simply is too old to be played on rock stations. This completely absurd notion is one of many ways Clear Channel has done more to destroy the music business than downloading over the last 10 years. It’s certainly what’s helped create satellite radio, where Springsteen is a staple and even has his own channel on Sirius.

It’s not just Springsteen. There is no sign at major radio stations of new albums by John Fogerty or Annie Lennox, either. The same stations that should be playing Santana’s new singles with Chad Kroeger or Tina Turner are avoiding them, too.

Like Springsteen, these "older" artists have been relegated to something called Triple A format stations — i.e. either college radio or small artsy stations such as WFUV in the Bronx, N.Y., which are immune from the Clear Channel virus of pre-programming and where the number of plays per song is a fraction of what it is on commercial radio.

Source:
http://www.foxnews.com/st...64,00.html

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I have been saying this for years about all the people on this board ranting that P can't have a hit record. Well he can't he is over 40 and he his never going to get radio airplay.
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Reply #20 posted 11/02/07 7:24am

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I have been saying this for years about all the people on this board ranting that P can't have a hit record. Well he can't he is over 40 and he his never going to get radio airplay.


This is insane.

How does that Soulja idiot get radio play or even Kid Rock, and Bruce Springsteen *can't*???

If you would have told me this five years ago, I would have said you were insane.

Unbelievable. The music business is out of control...
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Reply #21 posted 11/02/07 8:33am

Timmy84

vainandy said:

I haven't heard Bruce's new song but as much as I hate Clear Channel, I agree that a new song from an old artist should not be played on an oldies station. For example, a song from either Rick James or Teena Marie's latest albums would sound horrible on an oldies station next to jams like "Hard To Get" or "Behind The Groove" because the new songs wouldn't fit in with the station's format at all.

However, a new song by an old artist should definately be played on stations that play current music. I mean, if a hard funk jam like The Barkays' "Put A Little Nasty On It" had been played on current radio in the 1990s and more new funk songs at the time had been played, we might not be in the musical rut we are in now because the shit hop sound might have had a chance to go out of style like it should.


Co-sign.
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Reply #22 posted 11/02/07 8:44am

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Shapeshifter said:

kev1n said:

runnin' out to buy the album right now!

to hell with radio!
[Edited 11/2/07 2:05am]



That's the spirit! It's a good album.


This all is good promotion. I saw it get 5 stars..i wanna get it 2.
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Reply #23 posted 11/02/07 8:51am

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Anxiety said:

geezers are the new rebels

teenagers are the new establishment

old is the new young


true.
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Reply #24 posted 11/02/07 9:01am

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"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #25 posted 11/02/07 9:06am

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Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:

I haven't heard Bruce's new song but as much as I hate Clear Channel, I agree that a new song from an old artist should not be played on an oldies station. For example, a song from either Rick James or Teena Marie's latest albums would sound horrible on an oldies station next to jams like "Hard To Get" or "Behind The Groove" because the new songs wouldn't fit in with the station's format at all.

However, a new song by an old artist should definately be played on stations that play current music. I mean, if a hard funk jam like The Barkays' "Put A Little Nasty On It" had been played on current radio in the 1990s and more new funk songs at the time had been played, we might not be in the musical rut we are in now because the shit hop sound might have had a chance to go out of style like it should.


Co-sign.


Exactly thats why you will not see a radio hit from someone over 40 and when you do its a fluke of some sort. Now it seems the older artists are the album sellers and younger get the play, but simple logic would say thats a little screwed up? why are you NOT playing your stronger seller, since the older artist usually has the more LOYAL fans who will actually buy the cd and not download it for nothing.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Alasseon said:


I have been saying this for years about all the people on this board ranting that P can't have a hit record. Well he can't he is over 40 and he his never going to get radio airplay.


This is insane.

How does that Soulja idiot get radio play or even Kid Rock, and Bruce Springsteen *can't*???

If you would have told me this five years ago, I would have said you were insane.

Unbelievable. The music business is out of control...

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I said this five years ago and everybody did say I was insane (LOL) Radio is obsesed with selling ads not good music. They only want to market to people who are going to buy all that crap that are trying to sell with those annoying commercials. As if once you turn 40 you no longer buy records or listen to the radio.
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lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:



Co-sign.


Exactly thats why you will not see a radio hit from someone over 40 and when you do its a fluke of some sort. Now it seems the older artists are the album sellers and younger get the play, but simple logic would say thats a little screwed up? why are you NOT playing your stronger seller, since the older artist usually has the more LOYAL fans who will actually buy the cd and not download it for nothing.

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Because people in radio and the music industry are idiots.
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Reply #28 posted 11/02/07 11:38am

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laurarichardson said:

lastdecember said:



Exactly thats why you will not see a radio hit from someone over 40 and when you do its a fluke of some sort. Now it seems the older artists are the album sellers and younger get the play, but simple logic would say thats a little screwed up? why are you NOT playing your stronger seller, since the older artist usually has the more LOYAL fans who will actually buy the cd and not download it for nothing.

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Because people in radio and the music industry are idiots.


Plus they have NO music know how at all. At least back in the day 70's 80's you had A&R people that worked an artist, because labels werent afraid to invest a little in someone and let them grow over say 3-5 albums, i mean thats the only Prince,U2,Inxs and countless others survived, someone believed in them, today they would be dropped just like Kelis, Kelis got dropped for an album that sold 533,000 copies, Inxs's first 4 albums together didnt sell that many. But of course labels dont want to hear that, all they know is blaming downloads,cd prices,the economy etc...

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Anxiety said:

geezers are the new rebels

teenagers are the new establishment

old is the new young


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