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lastdecember

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For the first time COMMON makes a really dumb statement....?

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COMMON URGES T.I. TO PRAY OVER CHARGES

Rapper COMMON has voiced his support for his AMERICAN GANGSTER co-star T.I. after he was taken into custody over weapons charges.
Common, real name Lonnie Rashid Lynn Jr, who plays T.I's dad in the film, urged the rapper-actor to pray for his future.

He says, "Know that God is with (you). Know that He knows what the truth is and the truth is going to allow (you) to get out and be alright."

Twenty-seven-year-old T.I., real name Clifford Harris Jr. - remains in custody after allegedly sending his bodyguard to buy three machine guns and two silencers from an undercover police officer who was posing as an arms dealer.

His lawyers asked U.S. Magistrate Judge Alan Baverman to release the rapper on a $2.2 million (GBP1.1 million) bond with monitored home confinement while he awaits trial.

But the judge said he will reserve his ruling until October 26 (07) when his lawyers are expected to present an approved home monitor.



Dont know where everyone will be on this statement, but to me, its dumb. Mainly the whole GOD knows the truth shit is so sickening at this point, take the blame for your own actions, how come you dont say "Pray for the Bodyguard also" while he was at it. Regardless of what the outcome of this charge is, i really doubt that he is 100% innocent, and there lies the problem, i have seen people posting all over that he is innocent and things like that and yet no one is even speaking on how and why were these assault weapons were even involved, that for some reason has taken a back seat. Machine guns and silencers, seems like someone was planning something, and think how cowardly this all is too. Using another person to go get them for you, no one is speaking on that either.

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Reply #1 posted 10/21/07 11:10am

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It's not so much what Common said that's stupid, it's really what TI did that's beyond stupid. mad
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Reply #2 posted 10/21/07 11:10am

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I'm sorry, I'm too distracted by the total disruption of their fine-ness by those awful names. Lonnie & Clifford??? whofarted sigh hammer

I'd still fuck Lonnie though neutral
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Reply #3 posted 10/21/07 11:14am

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silverchild said:

It's not so much what Common said that's stupid, it's really what TI did that's beyond stupid. mad


True but Common's statements, are really what i would expect an ignorant person to say. Instead of speaking on Guns and shit, to talk about the Truth and God and not even mention the actions involved is a very "common" thing, thought he was wiser.

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lastdecember said:

silverchild said:

It's not so much what Common said that's stupid, it's really what TI did that's beyond stupid. mad


True but Common's statements, are really what i would expect an ignorant person to say. Instead of speaking on Guns and shit, to talk about the Truth and God and not even mention the actions involved is a very "common" thing, thought he was wiser.

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Common is not being ignorant. He is just saying that only God knows what is in T.I's heart not any man. At this point only GOD can help him out of this mess.

I don't think for one minute that Common is excusing his behavior. We don't usually beat people down in the black community after all it is not like people like T.I. are not aware of their behavior.
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Reply #5 posted 10/21/07 11:31am

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The real shock is ....how old is Common that he is playing the dad of a 27 year old (even though TI kind of looks like a kid). As for Common said, it almost sounds harmless. It's really a nothing kind of statement.
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Reply #6 posted 10/21/07 1:05pm

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laurarichardson said:

lastdecember said:



True but Common's statements, are really what i would expect an ignorant person to say. Instead of speaking on Guns and shit, to talk about the Truth and God and not even mention the actions involved is a very "common" thing, thought he was wiser.

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Common is not being ignorant. He is just saying that only God knows what is in T.I's heart not any man. At this point only GOD can help him out of this mess.

I don't think for one minute that Common is excusing his behavior. We don't usually beat people down in the black community after all it is not like people like T.I. are not aware of their behavior.


But still it should have been addressed the sadness of his actions, not so much about GOD bailing him out of this, or GOD knowing what the real truth is, which almost makes it seem like GOD as usual is brought in to excuse one's actions.

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VinnyM27 said:

The real shock is ....how old is Common that he is playing the dad of a 27 year old (even though TI kind of looks like a kid). As for Common said, it almost sounds harmless. It's really a nothing kind of statement.



All he was saying that he hopes that the kid is ok.

u guys just want somethin to talk about and Brit aint doin shit
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Reply #8 posted 10/21/07 1:49pm

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I don't think it was dumb or ignorant. Who is Common to tell T.I. what he should or shouldn't be doing? Especially when the deed is already done? No one knows the exact details of what was going on but God does. For all we know Common's reference to 'out' could be on bail as oppose to being 'out' because he's 100% innocent. No one knows right now but in the end he's trying to give the guy a little hope and support rather than throw rocks.
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CalhounSq said:

I'm sorry, I'm too distracted by the total disruption of their fine-ness by those awful names. Lonnie & Clifford??? whofarted sigh hammer

I'd still fuck Lonnie though neutral

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Reply #12 posted 10/21/07 2:08pm

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Maybe T.I was practicing for a new Rambo movie:


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Maybe T.I was practicing for a new Rambo movie:


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Reply #14 posted 10/21/07 2:38pm

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paisleypark4 said:

VinnyM27 said:

The real shock is ....how old is Common that he is playing the dad of a 27 year old (even though TI kind of looks like a kid). As for Common said, it almost sounds harmless. It's really a nothing kind of statement.



All he was saying that he hopes that the kid is ok.

u guys just want somethin to talk about and Brit aint doin shit
[Edited 10/21/07 13:39pm]


Who cares about Brit, and anyway im sure if she bought guns and her kids got taken away no one would be saying "god knows the way" or "Find God" how come everyone looks for god when they get charged with something? The bigger issue is not just a gun charge, its more than a gun, these are assault weapons, and also how much of a coward are you to send your bodyguard to go get them and possibly go down like that. Also i doubt highly that he is 100% innocent, i know we like to believe everything is a frame up and that just because of your wealth that celebrities could never do something like this. And look at how he's already trying to buy his way out, trying to get a bail of 2million as opposed to no bail at all. I know people will make this into, dont tear the guy down, GROW UP ALREADY and take responsibility for your actions. You are a grown man, who some say has intelligence, you have a career, and yet this is what you do? Stop excusing the behavior, TI is not a victim, he did it all to himself.

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Reply #15 posted 10/21/07 2:56pm

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lastdecember said:

laurarichardson said:


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Common is not being ignorant. He is just saying that only God knows what is in T.I's heart not any man. At this point only GOD can help him out of this mess.

I don't think for one minute that Common is excusing his behavior. We don't usually beat people down in the black community after all it is not like people like T.I. are not aware of their behavior.


But still it should have been addressed the sadness of his actions, not so much about GOD bailing him out of this, or GOD knowing what the real truth is, which almost makes it seem like GOD as usual is brought in to excuse one's actions.

I think you might be letting your religious bias get the best of you...
Common seems to be deeply religious. that statement seems to be what a religious person would say.
Religious people aren't reasonable... they talk to their invisible friends...
so is his statement really ignorant?,
or just common of a religious person.
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EmbattledWarrior said:

lastdecember said:



But still it should have been addressed the sadness of his actions, not so much about GOD bailing him out of this, or GOD knowing what the real truth is, which almost makes it seem like GOD as usual is brought in to excuse one's actions.

I think you might be letting your religious bias get the best of you...
Common seems to be deeply religious. that statement seems to be what a religious person would say.
Religious people aren't reasonable... they talk to their invisible friends...
so is his statement really ignorant?,
or just common of a religious person.


Its not about bias, i feel believe in what you want to believe, but if you think that "finding" God keeps bad things from happening then you really are kind of lost, if thats the case since 80% of the world believes in GOD how come the world is in a shithole?

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lastdecember said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


I think you might be letting your religious bias get the best of you...
Common seems to be deeply religious. that statement seems to be what a religious person would say.
Religious people aren't reasonable... they talk to their invisible friends...
so is his statement really ignorant?,
or just common of a religious person.


Its not about bias, i feel believe in what you want to believe, but if you think that "finding" God keeps bad things from happening then you really are kind of lost, if thats the case since 80% of the world believes in GOD how come the world is in a shithole?

Cause "God" has a shitty sense of humor
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Reply #18 posted 10/21/07 4:18pm

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I don't see what's so dumb about that statement to be honest.....
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Reply #19 posted 10/21/07 5:27pm

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Cinnamon234 said:

I don't see what's so dumb about that statement to be honest.....



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Reply #20 posted 10/21/07 5:38pm

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when i saw Common a couple weeks back during one of his songs he started naming people that were misunderstood...Tupac, misunderstood....Malcom X, misunderstood...etc and the he gets to Michael Vic and says misunderstood and my friends and i looked at each other and were like whofarted and he got a lot of boos after that name drop. Then me and my friends got silly with it and started yelling out crazy peoples name and saying misunderstood behind it.

Jeffery Dahmer, Misunderstood..

John Wayne Gasey, Misunderstood!

George W. Bush, Misunderstood...

err, you had to be there. confused
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Reply #21 posted 10/21/07 6:47pm

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magnificentsynthesizer said:

when i saw Common a couple weeks back during one of his songs he started naming people that were misunderstood...Tupac, misunderstood....Malcom X, misunderstood...etc and the he gets to Michael Vic and says misunderstood and my friends and i looked at each other and were like whofarted and he got a lot of boos after that name drop. Then me and my friends got silly with it and started yelling out crazy peoples name and saying misunderstood behind it.

Jeffery Dahmer, Misunderstood..

John Wayne Gasey, Misunderstood!

George W. Bush, Misunderstood...

err, you had to be there. confused

Humans are complex beings, their personalities far exceed the dualitical templates of black & white.
In a way everybody is Misunderstood.
Hell we can argue that hitler was Misunderstood,
Just a self loathing german hungarian soldier, abandoned by his country suffering intense mental trauma.
Sure.
Michael Vick & OJ could be very nice cats in real life...
Pee Wee Herman, could entertain your parents at a dinner party...
sure
But Hitlers was still a genocidal maniac
Vick a Cold blooded Dog fighter, OJ an allegged Wife killer
Pee Wee Herman a guy who jerks off in movie theaters and possibly to child porn

you can be a nice guy and an asshole at the same time
it's not that complex
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Reply #22 posted 10/21/07 7:23pm

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It's a pretty general statement. He's just speaking out in support of someone with whom he's worked, a junior entertainer. And, he's mentioning God.

Sometimes, I think people would be happier to see two rappers warring than to see one support another who's made bad decisions. It reminds me of Jane Fonda's comments about Lindsey Lohan, a year or so back. A senior entertainer trying to support a younger one.

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Reply #23 posted 10/21/07 7:56pm

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EmbattledWarrior said:

magnificentsynthesizer said:

when i saw Common a couple weeks back during one of his songs he started naming people that were misunderstood...Tupac, misunderstood....Malcom X, misunderstood...etc and the he gets to Michael Vic and says misunderstood and my friends and i looked at each other and were like whofarted and he got a lot of boos after that name drop. Then me and my friends got silly with it and started yelling out crazy peoples name and saying misunderstood behind it.

Jeffery Dahmer, Misunderstood..

John Wayne Gasey, Misunderstood!

George W. Bush, Misunderstood...

err, you had to be there. confused

Humans are complex beings, their personalities far exceed the dualitical templates of black & white.
In a way everybody is Misunderstood.
Hell we can argue that hitler was Misunderstood,
Just a self loathing german hungarian soldier, abandoned by his country suffering intense mental trauma.
Sure.
Michael Vick & OJ could be very nice cats in real life...
Pee Wee Herman, could entertain your parents at a dinner party...
sure
But Hitlers was still a genocidal maniac
Vick a Cold blooded Dog fighter, OJ an allegged Wife killer
Pee Wee Herman a guy who jerks off in movie theaters and possibly to child porn

you can be a nice guy and an asshole at the same time
it's not that complex


yup, there's a thought process to every action and usually it helps when understanding how someone arrived at reason or conclusion for that action and it might even make sense once explained. Yeah sure, it's not that impossible to project the illusion of being nice or mild mannered whilst in possession of a sick mind.
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Reply #24 posted 10/21/07 8:02pm

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Who knows, maybe Common has the real version on this story not the one that's been "passed like a party joint" lol through the media.

I have big respect for Comm, but hopefully he's supporting TI because he knows he's not guilty. I mean come on dude, 3 machine guns, silencers and shit...seems to me he had intentions on putting someone to sleep or maybe he was gonna David Koresh's legacy, i don't know. shrug lol
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magnificentsynthesizer said:

Who knows, maybe Common has the real version on this story not the one that's been "passed like a party joint" lol through the media.

I have big respect for Comm, but hopefully he's supporting TI because he knows he's not guilty. I mean come on dude, 3 machine guns, silencers and shit...seems to me he had intentions on putting someone to sleep or maybe he was gonna David Koresh's legacy, i don't know. shrug lol


Well i dont have confidence in police or government at any level, but i do feel they have something on him to have him with no bail for this long, i have a feeling that this whole thing is gonna get pushed off on the Bodyguard and he's gonna end up with doing time, i think we've seen this movie before. As for Common, i mean we can start making "pray for" statements about anyone, i just hate the arrogance of a statement like that.

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Reply #26 posted 10/21/07 10:53pm

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All Common is saying is that he prays for the dude but Wyclef needed to be slapped for his comment.
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The first time? He has a long history of casual homophobia and racial stereotyping also.
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Reply #28 posted 10/22/07 5:30am

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It's not dumb for Common to make that statement. God IS with T.I. no matter what he does. God doesn't spare him from the consequences of his actions. But why would Common NOT offer some type of support to a purported friend, even though that friend was colossally stupid?

I mean, Jesus said we should pray for our enemies.

I thought you were referring to Common's views on interracial relationships.
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Reply #29 posted 10/22/07 5:36am

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Timmy84 said:

All Common is saying is that he prays for the dude but Wyclef needed to be slapped for his comment.


T.I. was his same ignorant self on that show, but somehow Wyclef heard Brother Shabazz being channeled.
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