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The Style Council-Shout To The Top

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Reply #1 posted 10/23/07 10:05pm

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No One knows about the Style Council or The Jam???? eek
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Reply #2 posted 10/24/07 1:06pm

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I do! Shout to the Top, My Everchanging Moods, Long Hot Summer and the Jam Classic "That's Entertainment". I love them!
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cla30 said:

I do! Shout to the Top, My Everchanging Moods, Long Hot Summer and the Jam Classic "That's Entertainment". I love them!

I just got their greatest hits album!!!!!
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loved them!
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How does "The Jam" compare with them?

I know Paul Weller founded both groups wink
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Reply #7 posted 10/24/07 6:06pm

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Finally!.... recognition for TSC. I love this band, saw them live about 15 times. I'm a tiler and named my business after them (work it out wink )
If interested in discovering this great band I would recommend The Complete Adventures Of The Style Council box set, The Complete Style Council on DVD. For reading matter I highly rate Iain Munn's "Mr Cool's Dream", available at Amazon UK. I helped Iain with this publication and it features many of my previously unpublished live shots. It's basically the TSC equivalent of The Vault.
Speaking of TSC/Paul Weller: I'm still surprised that Weller has never professed a liking for Prince in interviews considering his fondness of soul & funk. The nearest he ever got to mentioning Prince was when he gave the thumbs up to Mavis Staples' "The Undertaker" in an interview.
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bboy87 said:

How does "The Jam" compare with them?

I know Paul Weller founded both groups wink
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Both bands feature his soul/R&B influences although The Jam were basically a punk rock/new wave band. If you like TSC and want to check out The Jam I would start with a Greatest Hits type album or their swansong album "The Gift" which hinted at the direction he would take musically with TSC.
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pacey68 said:

Finally!.... recognition for TSC. I love this band, saw them live about 15 times. I'm a tiler and named my business after them (work it out wink )
If interested in discovering this great band I would recommend The Complete Adventures Of The Style Council box set, The Complete Style Council on DVD. For reading matter I highly rate Iain Munn's "Mr Cool's Dream", available at Amazon UK. I helped Iain with this publication and it features many of my previously unpublished live shots. It's basically the TSC equivalent of The Vault.
Speaking of TSC/Paul Weller: I'm still surprised that Weller has never professed a liking for Prince in interviews considering his fondness of soul & funk. The nearest he ever got to mentioning Prince was when he gave the thumbs up to Mavis Staples' "The Undertaker" in an interview.
[Edited 10/24/07 18:13pm]

I just found out about them, and I would think since this is the ORG, I would've found out about them here lol
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Reply #10 posted 10/24/07 6:31pm

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bboy87 said:

pacey68 said:

Finally!.... recognition for TSC. I love this band, saw them live about 15 times. I'm a tiler and named my business after them (work it out wink )
If interested in discovering this great band I would recommend The Complete Adventures Of The Style Council box set, The Complete Style Council on DVD. For reading matter I highly rate Iain Munn's "Mr Cool's Dream", available at Amazon UK. I helped Iain with this publication and it features many of my previously unpublished live shots. It's basically the TSC equivalent of The Vault.
Speaking of TSC/Paul Weller: I'm still surprised that Weller has never professed a liking for Prince in interviews considering his fondness of soul & funk. The nearest he ever got to mentioning Prince was when he gave the thumbs up to Mavis Staples' "The Undertaker" in an interview.
[Edited 10/24/07 18:13pm]

I just found out about them, and I would think since this is the ORG, I would've found out about them here lol

Well you have discovered a great band, if you ever have any questions about them or Weller in general, I reckon I'm the Orger to ask smile
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Reply #11 posted 10/24/07 7:04pm

Jude418

Anyone here own that Style Council box set which included their never released final album with "Promise Land"?... I loved Confessions of a Pop Group but never got a chance to hear their last recordings.

ps - I'll always hate Tears For Fears for their insulting line "Kick out the Style, bring back The Jam."
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Reply #12 posted 10/24/07 7:19pm

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Jude418 said:

Anyone here own that Style Council box set which included their never released final album with "Promise Land"?... I loved Confessions of a Pop Group but never got a chance to hear their last recordings.

ps - I'll always hate Tears For Fears for their insulting line "Kick out the Style, bring back The Jam."

Yes I got it, the box set includes Promised Land although this song wasn't on the "Modernism: A New Decade" album. Here is a clip of their last ever TV appearance in 1990 performing "Sure Is Sure" from the album. It will give you an idea of what the album sounded like. http://www.youtube.com/wa...T47JIQXswE

I went to the last ever TSC concert and it was a soul revue playing live house music in 1989. One of the first ever live house gigs in the UK, perhaps?
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pacey68 said:

Jude418 said:

Anyone here own that Style Council box set which included their never released final album with "Promise Land"?... I loved Confessions of a Pop Group but never got a chance to hear their last recordings.

ps - I'll always hate Tears For Fears for their insulting line "Kick out the Style, bring back The Jam."

Yes I got it, the box set includes Promised Land although this song wasn't on the "Modernism: A New Decade" album. Here is a clip of their last ever TV appearance in 1990 performing "Sure Is Sure" from the album. It will give you an idea of what the album sounded like. http://www.youtube.com/wa...T47JIQXswE

I went to the last ever TSC concert and it was a soul revue playing live house music in 1989. One of the first ever live house gigs in the UK, perhaps?


WOW!! THANKS!! Now I have to track that album down... I'm flashing back on "Heavens Above" being one of the first clips I saw on MTV and how I fell in love with TSC as a band and Weller as an artist... He STILL kills it every time he comes to L.A.... He's a GOD!!
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WOW!! THANKS!! Now I have to track that album down... I'm flashing back on "Heavens Above" being one of the first clips I saw on MTV and how I fell in love with TSC as a band and Weller as an artist... He STILL kills it every time he comes to L.A.... He's a GOD!!

You can usually find it on eBay but it was only released as a rare Japanese promo and costs a lot, the cheaper option would be to buy the box set which includes the full album plus pretty much every other recording of significance.
Btw, have you heard of the track "Like A Gun" by King Truman. This is another TSC track recorded in the same period and released on Acid Jazz records under a pseudonym. It was quickly withdrawn after Polydor found out about it and is now the rarest TSC record in terms of value. They played the song at their final gig in 1989. Here is a link (audio only): http://www.youtube.com/wa...Z843ZF4q5c
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pacey68 said:


Yes I got it, the box set includes Promised Land although this song wasn't on the "Modernism: A New Decade" album. Here is a clip of their last ever TV appearance in 1990 performing "Sure Is Sure" from the album. It will give you an idea of what the album sounded like. http://www.youtube.com/wa...T47JIQXswE

I went to the last ever TSC concert and it was a soul revue playing live house music in 1989. One of the first ever live house gigs in the UK, perhaps?


WOW!! THANKS!! Now I have to track that album down... I'm flashing back on "Heavens Above" being one of the first clips I saw on MTV and how I fell in love with TSC as a band and Weller as an artist... He STILL kills it every time he comes to L.A.... He's a GOD!!

I gather you saw the Heavens Above clip from the Jerusalem film, performing at a windmil??? I once got my photo taken at the actual windmill when I was in the area, Wilton Windmill in Wilton, Somerset if you're ever down there... smile http://www.youtube.com/wa...1YdqDpb71k
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See what you did! Now I'm on the hunt for the box set! lol
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Reply #17 posted 10/24/07 11:44pm

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pacey68 said:

Jude418 said:

Anyone here own that Style Council box set which included their never released final album with "Promise Land"?... I loved Confessions of a Pop Group but never got a chance to hear their last recordings.

ps - I'll always hate Tears For Fears for their insulting line "Kick out the Style, bring back The Jam."

Yes I got it, the box set includes Promised Land although this song wasn't on the "Modernism: A New Decade" album. Here is a clip of their last ever TV appearance in 1990 performing "Sure Is Sure" from the album. It will give you an idea of what the album sounded like. http://www.youtube.com/wa...T47JIQXswE

I went to the last ever TSC concert and it was a soul revue playing live house music in 1989. One of the first ever live house gigs in the UK, perhaps?



You went to that infamous gig? Wow! Tell me more. It was at the Albert Hall, wasn't it? Weller in orange shorts. What was the audience reaction?

I've got the box set. Hugely underrated group. I hate the fact that idiot critical consensus dismisses this period in Weller's career. The guy was making genuinely innovative, exciting, experimental music. TSC were ahead of their time - anticipating modern r n b (The Cost of Loving - right down to its New Jack style rap track - yeah, the song's crap, but that's not the point; it was ahead of its time), house.

Real shame Weller's solo career has been pandering to middle-aged Jam fans since "Wild Wood". He should go the whole hog and bring back Bruce and Rick.
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pacey68 said:

Jude418 said:

Anyone here own that Style Council box set which included their never released final album with "Promise Land"?... I loved Confessions of a Pop Group but never got a chance to hear their last recordings.

ps - I'll always hate Tears For Fears for their insulting line "Kick out the Style, bring back The Jam."

Yes I got it, the box set includes Promised Land although this song wasn't on the "Modernism: A New Decade" album. Here is a clip of their last ever TV appearance in 1990 performing "Sure Is Sure" from the album. It will give you an idea of what the album sounded like. http://www.youtube.com/wa...T47JIQXswE

I went to the last ever TSC concert and it was a soul revue playing live house music in 1989. One of the first ever live house gigs in the UK, perhaps?


great song - but horrible lip-synch no?
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Reply #19 posted 10/25/07 7:59am

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You went to that infamous gig? Wow! Tell me more. It was at the Albert Hall, wasn't it? Weller in orange shorts. What was the audience reaction?

I've got the box set. Hugely underrated group. I hate the fact that idiot critical consensus dismisses this period in Weller's career. The guy was making genuinely innovative, exciting, experimental music. TSC were ahead of their time - anticipating modern r n b (The Cost of Loving - right down to its New Jack style rap track - yeah, the song's crap, but that's not the point; it was ahead of its time), house.

Real shame Weller's solo career has been pandering to middle-aged Jam fans since "Wild Wood". He should go the whole hog and bring back Bruce and Rick.

Yes although we never knew at the time that it was their last gig, I only travelled from Manchester to London because it was their first UK gig in almost 2 years (Dee got pregnant with Nat during this hiatus). It is true that Weller came on stage wearing dayglo shorts & Converse boots, strange as I was wearing the exact same shorts at the gig... in my defence, they were fashionable at the time lol See pics from the gig here: http://www.litjen.easynet...1989P1.htm The gig was billed as a "Revue" and featured spots from the various band members: Dee sang a few numbers including the classic Move by her band Slam Slam (BUY THIS ALBUM!), Dr. Robert sang Curtis' Now You're Gone, Brian Powell sang Everybody's On The Run etc.
There was a surreal moment when Weller started doing some choreographed dance moves with the rest of the band but otherwise it wasn't too much of a surprise. Remember, TSC had already released tunes like Promised Land, Can You Still Love Me, Everybody's On The Run so it was pretty obvious before the gig that Weller had been influenced by the burgeoning Garage scene. There were a few in the audience who ripped up their programmes in disgust and started jeering & booing but from what I recall many were enjoying the gig and dancing in the aisles.
Weller has always had this reaction with a small minority of his audience whenever he tries something new. When he started TSC there were old Jam fans in the crowd shouting requests for In The City etc. He's always gonna get that.
As a footnote; what you say about TSC being unneccessarily slagged off is true. Recent evidence of their greatness was a recent feature in Mojo magazine "How To Buy Paul Weller" in which readers were asked to vote for their favourite Weller studio albums. Out of the ten highest polled albums were 3 of The Jam's 5 albums, 4 of Weller's many solo albums & 3 of TSC's 4 albums! The only TSC album not to make the top ten was "Cost" which didn't come as a surprise. Anyway, this just proved to me that it's fashionable to slag this period of Weller's career and his more devoted admirers regard it as one of the best and definitely the most experimental period of his career. To be honest I've not really liked much of his solo stuff since Stanley Road (vastly overrated) but I think he's found a winning formula and pretty much stuck to it ever since. I don't think he will ever again reach the artistic heights of his 80s output and after 13 years of hoping in vain I have given up caring. If people want to hear him perform "Malice" for the millionth time or another 20 minute version of "Gilded Splinters" then they are welcome to it. I prefer to be surprised & challenged by an artist but he just doesn't do that for me anymore sad
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great song - but horrible lip-synch no?

Yes the lip synching is terrible. In their defence, I think they were past caring by this point and were going through the motions. Weller had already decided to split the band at this point as the presenter on the show mentioned that he was going solo.
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Reply #21 posted 10/25/07 10:45am

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pacey68 said:

Finally!.... recognition for TSC. I love this band, saw them live about 15 times. I'm a tiler and named my business after them (work it out wink )
If interested in discovering this great band I would recommend The Complete Adventures Of The Style Council box set, The Complete Style Council on DVD. For reading matter I highly rate Iain Munn's "Mr Cool's Dream", available at Amazon UK. I helped Iain with this publication and it features many of my previously unpublished live shots. It's basically the TSC equivalent of The Vault.
Speaking of TSC/Paul Weller: I'm still surprised that Weller has never professed a liking for Prince in interviews considering his fondness of soul & funk. The nearest he ever got to mentioning Prince was when he gave the thumbs up to Mavis Staples' "The Undertaker" in an interview.
[Edited 10/24/07 18:13pm]

I just found out about them, and I would think since this is the ORG, I would've found out about them here lol


The Jam have a more punk mod style while the Style Council is more britpop/r&b. Both groups are excellent. I have the Style Council's greatest hits and numerous Jam tunes.
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Reply #22 posted 10/25/07 12:12pm

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pacey68 said:

Shapeshifter said:

You went to that infamous gig? Wow! Tell me more. It was at the Albert Hall, wasn't it? Weller in orange shorts. What was the audience reaction?

I've got the box set. Hugely underrated group. I hate the fact that idiot critical consensus dismisses this period in Weller's career. The guy was making genuinely innovative, exciting, experimental music. TSC were ahead of their time - anticipating modern r n b (The Cost of Loving - right down to its New Jack style rap track - yeah, the song's crap, but that's not the point; it was ahead of its time), house.

Real shame Weller's solo career has been pandering to middle-aged Jam fans since "Wild Wood". He should go the whole hog and bring back Bruce and Rick.

Yes although we never knew at the time that it was their last gig, I only travelled from Manchester to London because it was their first UK gig in almost 2 years (Dee got pregnant with Nat during this hiatus). It is true that Weller came on stage wearing dayglo shorts & Converse boots, strange as I was wearing the exact same shorts at the gig... in my defence, they were fashionable at the time lol See pics from the gig here: http://www.litjen.easynet...1989P1.htm The gig was billed as a "Revue" and featured spots from the various band members: Dee sang a few numbers including the classic Move by her band Slam Slam (BUY THIS ALBUM!), Dr. Robert sang Curtis' Now You're Gone, Brian Powell sang Everybody's On The Run etc.
There was a surreal moment when Weller started doing some choreographed dance moves with the rest of the band but otherwise it wasn't too much of a surprise. Remember, TSC had already released tunes like Promised Land, Can You Still Love Me, Everybody's On The Run so it was pretty obvious before the gig that Weller had been influenced by the burgeoning Garage scene. There were a few in the audience who ripped up their programmes in disgust and started jeering & booing but from what I recall many were enjoying the gig and dancing in the aisles.
Weller has always had this reaction with a small minority of his audience whenever he tries something new. When he started TSC there were old Jam fans in the crowd shouting requests for In The City etc. He's always gonna get that.
As a footnote; what you say about TSC being unneccessarily slagged off is true. Recent evidence of their greatness was a recent feature in Mojo magazine "How To Buy Paul Weller" in which readers were asked to vote for their favourite Weller studio albums. Out of the ten highest polled albums were 3 of The Jam's 5 albums, 4 of Weller's many solo albums & 3 of TSC's 4 albums! The only TSC album not to make the top ten was "Cost" which didn't come as a surprise. Anyway, this just proved to me that it's fashionable to slag this period of Weller's career and his more devoted admirers regard it as one of the best and definitely the most experimental period of his career. To be honest I've not really liked much of his solo stuff since Stanley Road (vastly overrated) but I think he's found a winning formula and pretty much stuck to it ever since. I don't think he will ever again reach the artistic heights of his 80s output and after 13 years of hoping in vain I have given up caring. If people want to hear him perform "Malice" for the millionth time or another 20 minute version of "Gilded Splinters" then they are welcome to it. I prefer to be surprised & challenged by an artist but he just doesn't do that for me anymore sad
[Edited 10/25/07 8:05am]
[Edited 10/25/07 9:05am]


pacey68,
thanks for all the info -- ive never known anyone this up on TSC... on a personal side: do you know when paul and dee split or how many children they had together?? has paul been linked with anyone since?? is dee still recording and what has mick been up to??...
oh, and thanks for the great links -- keep 'em coming!

peace,
the Cappuccino Kid
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pacey68 said:

Shapeshifter said:

You went to that infamous gig? Wow! Tell me more. It was at the Albert Hall, wasn't it? Weller in orange shorts. What was the audience reaction?

I've got the box set. Hugely underrated group. I hate the fact that idiot critical consensus dismisses this period in Weller's career. The guy was making genuinely innovative, exciting, experimental music. TSC were ahead of their time - anticipating modern r n b (The Cost of Loving - right down to its New Jack style rap track - yeah, the song's crap, but that's not the point; it was ahead of its time), house.

Real shame Weller's solo career has been pandering to middle-aged Jam fans since "Wild Wood". He should go the whole hog and bring back Bruce and Rick.

Yes although we never knew at the time that it was their last gig, I only travelled from Manchester to London because it was their first UK gig in almost 2 years (Dee got pregnant with Nat during this hiatus). It is true that Weller came on stage wearing dayglo shorts & Converse boots, strange as I was wearing the exact same shorts at the gig... in my defence, they were fashionable at the time lol See pics from the gig here: http://www.litjen.easynet...1989P1.htm The gig was billed as a "Revue" and featured spots from the various band members: Dee sang a few numbers including the classic Move by her band Slam Slam (BUY THIS ALBUM!), Dr. Robert sang Curtis' Now You're Gone, Brian Powell sang Everybody's On The Run etc.
There was a surreal moment when Weller started doing some choreographed dance moves with the rest of the band but otherwise it wasn't too much of a surprise. Remember, TSC had already released tunes like Promised Land, Can You Still Love Me, Everybody's On The Run so it was pretty obvious before the gig that Weller had been influenced by the burgeoning Garage scene. There were a few in the audience who ripped up their programmes in disgust and started jeering & booing but from what I recall many were enjoying the gig and dancing in the aisles.
Weller has always had this reaction with a small minority of his audience whenever he tries something new. When he started TSC there were old Jam fans in the crowd shouting requests for In The City etc. He's always gonna get that.
As a footnote; what you say about TSC being unneccessarily slagged off is true. Recent evidence of their greatness was a recent feature in Mojo magazine "How To Buy Paul Weller" in which readers were asked to vote for their favourite Weller studio albums. Out of the ten highest polled albums were 3 of The Jam's 5 albums, 4 of Weller's many solo albums & 3 of TSC's 4 albums! The only TSC album not to make the top ten was "Cost" which didn't come as a surprise. Anyway, this just proved to me that it's fashionable to slag this period of Weller's career and his more devoted admirers regard it as one of the best and definitely the most experimental period of his career. To be honest I've not really liked much of his solo stuff since Stanley Road (vastly overrated) but I think he's found a winning formula and pretty much stuck to it ever since. I don't think he will ever again reach the artistic heights of his 80s output and after 13 years of hoping in vain I have given up caring. If people want to hear him perform "Malice" for the millionth time or another 20 minute version of "Gilded Splinters" then they are welcome to it. I prefer to be surprised & challenged by an artist but he just doesn't do that for me anymore sad
[Edited 10/25/07 8:05am]
[Edited 10/25/07 9:05am]


Pacey, your assessment of Weller's solo career is spot on - or, rather, chimes perfectly with mine. And Stanley Road was totally overrated. I like his first two albums - especially the first, which was still grounded in TSC experimentation. Stanley Road had about four great songs in it, and the rest was pedestrian rawk for the un-funky gibbons and their "Oooh-Arrrgh-Paul-Wellaaaarrrrgggh"-ing. I saw him play a warm-up show at the Cambridge Junction ahead of the tour. It was one of the worst gigs I've ever been to. Just boring, smug, self-satisfied, plodding Free outtakes. He sounded like a pub act living out a daydream.

The Style Council produced patchy albums, but they were all very different, one from the other and relentlessly (restlessly) creative. Confessions of a Pop Group was a thing of beauty.

I'll check out Slam Slam. Thanks for the heads up. Did you ever hear Dee's mid-90s solo album? She was one angry, pissed off woman. No doubt who the object of her spleen was. Weller was apparently doing as much coke as Noel Gallagher then, waking up in ditches, shagging around. He's faintly ridiculous now, with his grey bangs, his paunch, his permatan and his guitar hero expressions.
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Reply #24 posted 10/25/07 1:13pm

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pacey68 said:


Yes although we never knew at the time that it was their last gig, I only travelled from Manchester to London because it was their first UK gig in almost 2 years (Dee got pregnant with Nat during this hiatus). It is true that Weller came on stage wearing dayglo shorts & Converse boots, strange as I was wearing the exact same shorts at the gig... in my defence, they were fashionable at the time lol See pics from the gig here: http://www.litjen.easynet...1989P1.htm The gig was billed as a "Revue" and featured spots from the various band members: Dee sang a few numbers including the classic Move by her band Slam Slam (BUY THIS ALBUM!), Dr. Robert sang Curtis' Now You're Gone, Brian Powell sang Everybody's On The Run etc.
There was a surreal moment when Weller started doing some choreographed dance moves with the rest of the band but otherwise it wasn't too much of a surprise. Remember, TSC had already released tunes like Promised Land, Can You Still Love Me, Everybody's On The Run so it was pretty obvious before the gig that Weller had been influenced by the burgeoning Garage scene. There were a few in the audience who ripped up their programmes in disgust and started jeering & booing but from what I recall many were enjoying the gig and dancing in the aisles.
Weller has always had this reaction with a small minority of his audience whenever he tries something new. When he started TSC there were old Jam fans in the crowd shouting requests for In The City etc. He's always gonna get that.
As a footnote; what you say about TSC being unneccessarily slagged off is true. Recent evidence of their greatness was a recent feature in Mojo magazine "How To Buy Paul Weller" in which readers were asked to vote for their favourite Weller studio albums. Out of the ten highest polled albums were 3 of The Jam's 5 albums, 4 of Weller's many solo albums & 3 of TSC's 4 albums! The only TSC album not to make the top ten was "Cost" which didn't come as a surprise. Anyway, this just proved to me that it's fashionable to slag this period of Weller's career and his more devoted admirers regard it as one of the best and definitely the most experimental period of his career. To be honest I've not really liked much of his solo stuff since Stanley Road (vastly overrated) but I think he's found a winning formula and pretty much stuck to it ever since. I don't think he will ever again reach the artistic heights of his 80s output and after 13 years of hoping in vain I have given up caring. If people want to hear him perform "Malice" for the millionth time or another 20 minute version of "Gilded Splinters" then they are welcome to it. I prefer to be surprised & challenged by an artist but he just doesn't do that for me anymore sad
[Edited 10/25/07 8:05am]
[Edited 10/25/07 9:05am]


pacey68,
thanks for all the info -- ive never known anyone this up on TSC... on a personal side: do you know when paul and dee split or how many children they had together?? has paul been linked with anyone since?? is dee still recording and what has mick been up to??...
oh, and thanks for the great links -- keep 'em coming!

peace,
the Cappuccino Kid
[Edited 10/25/07 12:13pm]


Paul and Dee split in the mid-90s. They have two kids. Nate (who's a Marilyn Manson fan and looks like a clone) and Leah. He went very rock n roll at the age of 40: coke, booze, pussy galore. Dee was obviously very pissed off with him. Check out her album from 1996. It's marriage counselling for one set to music.

Weller's had another three kids - two from his current relationship and another from a fling. There are rumours of at least two older kids fathered during The Jam's heyday.

And yeah, in 1983, he hit on my wife. Who turned him down flat. When I asked her why she said he was way too skinny for her tastes.
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Reply #25 posted 10/25/07 1:22pm

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bboy87 said:


I just found out about them, and I would think since this is the ORG, I would've found out about them here lol


The Jam have a more punk mod style while the Style Council is more britpop/r&b. Both groups are excellent. I have the Style Council's greatest hits and numerous Jam tunes.



You really need to get The Style Council box set to appreciate just how good they were. They changed style (no pun intended) from album to album.

Cafe Bleu was a jazz-based album, but also had forays into soul (You're The Best Thing), rap (A Gospel) and calypso. Our Favourite Shop was their Northern Soul State of the Nation concept album (and their biggest selling album); lyrically it's very dated, but much of the music still stands up. The Cost of Loving was inspired by the American r n b of the day (Anita Baker was a favourite). Much maligned at the time, and their weakest album, song buy song, but it still has three straight classics on it - It Didn't Matter, Heavens Above and The Cost of Loving. Confessions of a Pop Group was funk and Debussy. Yes, you read that right. Modernism - A New Decade was a house/garage inspired album. Some of it sounds dated, most of it sounds like something Massive Attack made hip a couple of years later. Had New Order released it in 1990, it would have been hailed as a masterpiece. Unfortunately, The Style Council were about as popular as three day old vomit with the wanky music press, and the record company were deaf, blind and very very dumb.
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pacey68 said:

Finally!.... recognition for TSC. I love this band, saw them live about 15 times. I'm a tiler and named my business after them (work it out wink )
If interested in discovering this great band I would recommend The Complete Adventures Of The Style Council box set, The Complete Style Council on DVD. For reading matter I highly rate Iain Munn's "Mr Cool's Dream", available at Amazon UK. I helped Iain with this publication and it features many of my previously unpublished live shots. It's basically the TSC equivalent of The Vault.
Speaking of TSC/Paul Weller: I'm still surprised that Weller has never professed a liking for Prince in interviews considering his fondness of soul & funk. The nearest he ever got to mentioning Prince was when he gave the thumbs up to Mavis Staples' "The Undertaker" in an interview.
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You helped out on Mr Cool's Dream? I've just ordered it.

You know Weller did a residency in New York this year, where he devoted one night to manly Jam songs, another to TSC ones, and one to solo stuff. Well, it didn't quite pan out that way. He played a 50-50 set on the first two nights, and added a couple of Jam and TSC songs on the third.

Had he done smething comparable in the UK I would have gone. I really think he should reform both bands and tour with them both, instead of dragging his bollocks solo act around by the neck. Apparently he and Bruce Foxton met backstage at The Who in Hyde Park last year, had a long talk and parted with a hug.
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Anyone here own that Style Council box set which included their never released final album with "Promise Land"?... I loved Confessions of a Pop Group but never got a chance to hear their last recordings.

ps - I'll always hate Tears For Fears for their insulting line "Kick out the Style, bring back The Jam."


Like anyone took Roland Orzabal seriously? Megalomaniac with a mullet.
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Reply #28 posted 10/25/07 1:34pm

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Thanks for all the great info! I'm learning alot cool
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Reply #29 posted 10/25/07 2:15pm

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pacey68,
thanks for all the info -- ive never known anyone this up on TSC... on a personal side: do you know when paul and dee split or how many children they had together?? has paul been linked with anyone since?? is dee still recording and what has mick been up to??...
oh, and thanks for the great links -- keep 'em coming!

peace,
the Cappuccino Kid
[Edited 10/25/07 12:13pm]

Paul & Dee split up on the very same night that he made his legendary performance at Glastonbury in (I think) 1995. Artistically he had everything he could have wished for but privately his marriage was falling apart. They had 2 kids; Nat (Nathaniel) & Leah. Google Nat Weller and you will find plenty of stuff about him as he models, runs a club night in London & is involved in the music business.
Paul has been linked to a few women since but most notably he had a child from a brief romance and has 2 children with his current long term partner Sammi.
Dee has not been recording as far as I know, last thing I heard was a project by D:Influence called Divas in which she sang on one song. She also cameo'd in a low budget Brit movie. She has a MySpace page if you want to find out more.
Mick is currently in Manchester recording the 3rd album by The Players which also features Steve White on drums. If you like TSC you will like The Players, check 'em out!
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