I want to make a compilation of what's considered her greatest songs, I just know a few of the major ones. Are there any full length LP's of hers that deserve attention & any new stuff she's done by herself or with others...besides the new Angie Stone duet. Thanks.

I blame her for the fake credibility that was initially given to Joss Stone...that is all.

sosgemini said:

She gots to eat and if she wanted to get her paycheck outta Joss Stone's back, so be it,,,,nothing seemed to stuff her mouth when her stardom died in the 80's/90's.

Harlepolis said:

point well taken...but i'd still give her a wedgy for it.

sosgemini said:

Shit is cringe worthy I agree lol but on the other hand I'm pleased that her name is getting revived among the youngins

Harlepolis said:

Joss actually can sing. I wasn't hip to her music at all, until I accidentaly saw one of her live shows recently. She did a cover of Sugar Billy's "Super Duper Love", which is a deep Soul classic. She's got a tight band as well - a part of James Brown's former horn section (Hollie Farris and Jeff Watkins) are with her now.

MrSoulpower said:

sure she sings.....like a goat. damn malaise (sic?) up the kazoo...its cringe inducing.

but this is a thread about wright...I just know her one big hit, Clean Up Woman.

sosgemini said:

Well, you brought up Joss, not me But anyway, have you seen her perform? I bet not. Homegirl definetely can sing. And I give her respect for her business as well. She manages herself, and thanks to her, some folks in the mainstream pick up on legends like Betty Wright and Gwen McCrae (who Betty got to sing background for Joss some years ago).

Betty was the bomb. Her releases on Alston and Cat between '68 and '77 are all winners.

MrSoulpower said:

not in person but somebody posted a link of her and gladys night performing together and im sorry...joss, just like most of today's singers, warbles way too much...she has clue how to convey emotion and instead does that lutha warble to impress the audience...its tired.

just "Clean Up Woman" and "Tonight Is The Night" (live version - love her talking to the crowd at the beginning )

sosgemini said:

I have seen her only that one time .. never heard her records, never have seen a TV appearance ... that one time, I was pleasently surprised how mature she sounded for such a young girly. I was actually watching her gig in the presence of a female Soul legend, and the lady said that she was impressed. Her words: "She'll never sound black, but she sure knows hot to sing". But in the end, it's always a matter of taste. If you don't like it - fine. But to say that she sounds like a goat is a bit harsh, especially coming from someone who seems to like Wendy and Lisa so much.

MrSoulpower said:

did i ever make claim to wendy and lisa having powerful vocal chords? no, but they know how to work what they have...they rely on lush harmonies to convey a sense of emotion...lisa (who has a very thin voice) uses dramatic flare to help tell a story via song...Dont Try To Tell Me is haunting because of this...She doesn't need to warble, screech and scream.

And that's the big difference between an artist like Wright and these teen-bob girls of today...these girls (Stone, Beyonce, Aguilar) haven't a fuckin clue how to tell a song via their voice...They think the louder and longer you scream the better the performance and that's bullshit.

oh yeah, how silly to even bring up wendy and lisa during this discussion...are you going to kick sand from the playground into my face now?

sosgemini said:

Well, that's a better analysis than "sings like a goat", don't you think? That was what I found quite offensive. But what you still don't seem to understand is that Wendy and Lisa perform an entirely different musical style. Joss sings Soul music, and she expresses it the way she feels it - screeches and screams allowed. You simply prefer Wendy's and Lisa's style over that of Joss. And that's cool. Wendy and Lisa don't do anything for me. But I respect their talend and I would never compare them to grazing herd animals.

And to put Joss in the same bag with Beyonce and Christina indicates that you didn't really listen. Different styles, differeny concepts, different music.

sosgemini said:

So it's ok for you to bring up Joss Stone and compare her voice to that of a goat, but if I refer to Wendy and Lisa, you get offended and hyper-defensive?

MrSoulpower said:

i am not comparing styles...i am comparing the actual act of singing.

sosgemini said:

Once again, we are talking about differend styles of music, so it's hard to compare the act of singing. If Alice Cooper tried to cross over into Soul, his "actual act of singing" would be quite misplaced because he's used to a different musical style. Get my point?

MrSoulpower said:

not at all, my statement actually had relevance to this discussion. you brought up wendy and lisa just to make a cheap-shot at me personally. now, if wendy and lisa were to sing like the majority of todays pop acts (hyper warbling and screaming) then you might have a point..you might have caught a contradiction...but they dont and thus a unwarranted cheap-shot was made.

and yes, Josh Stone sounds like a goat...and so does Shakira...and so does an artist I actually like, Stevie Nicks...its a way to describe someone's vocal gimmick.

Guys, please lets not get off-topic on this motherfucker now Betty's name gets posted in this site every 5 full moons, lets not fuck it up.
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MrSoulpower said:

No, because style of music and style of singing are two totally different things. Betty Wright and Gladys Knight both sing soul music (something Joss Stone attempts) but I would never compare their vocals to what Stone does...Like I said, Stone, Aguilar and Beyonce rely on gimmicky warbling and screeching instead of vocal competence. Most of this generations singers are guilty of it.

Harlepolis said:

but if we hadnt this thread would have ended up on page three already...so in a since, we are keeping her alive.



i kid!!! i kid!!

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Harlepolis said:

Scroll up, I posted a YouTube link. Enjoy this contribution!

MrSoulpower said:

thats a rather odd statement to make. should i check with you in the future when using an analogy?

and i brought up wright because she championed stone by couching her and making press appearances with her. harlepolis got the connection.

sosgemini said:

It's quite obvious that you have issues with Joss Stone, or you would not have made this remark above. What I heard her sing was Soul music, plain and simple. No way to argue around that. You may not have liked it, but you can't change a musical definition because of your dislike.

I don't really have an opinion on Beynce's chops though. I have only heard her digitally enhanced music from the can, but never heard her live. Maybe she can sing well? I wouldn't know.

MrSoulpower said:

oh my god you are giving me a headache...I am not trying to change the definition of her music...I am just saying she fails at it...IMHO.

now i must leave...harle, have your wright thread back..apologies.

sosgemini said:

Not really an odd statement. If you show me some proof that "singing like a good" is an actual musical gimmick recognized in the music biz, I shall admit my ignorance on this matter and offer my apology.

And in regards to Stone's relevance on this thread - you brought her up in a negative way before you even mentioned that you knew Betty's "one big hit".

sosgemini said:

And that is a "fact" based on your personal dislike of her singing?