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WaxPoetics #25 OCT/NOV 2007



Features...
~ Obituary: Max Roach
~ Iclandic Big Band
~ Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings
~ Numero Group's young soul
~ The Heliocentrics
~ East Bay Funk
~ Peruvian cumbia and chica
~ Numerous photo essays
~ Miles Davis
~ Walking To New Orleans
~ Beastie Boys: Check Your Head
~ The Dragons


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Reply #1 posted 10/19/07 7:23am

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I really want to subscribe to this mag, but I don't have the money nor the time to indulge it.

Though, i'll make it to the bookstore for this issue.

Would anyone know if the Heliocentrics is influenced by Sun Ra in some way?
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Reply #2 posted 10/19/07 7:45am

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magnificentsynthesizer said:

I really want to subscribe to this mag, but I don't have the money nor the time to indulge it.

Though, i'll make it to the bookstore for this issue.

Would anyone know if the Heliocentrics is influenced by Sun Ra in some way?

From the article...
Over the last four years, the time it has taken the group to conceptualize and complete the debut, Out There, the group has been listening to everything from Sun Ra and the Silver Apples to Broadcast and King Tubby.

Another quote...
The goal of the Heliocentrics is, according to drummer Malcolm Catto, "a return back to something more humanoid, like the intricacies of a group of musicians communicating together and the subtlety of a living, breathing rhythm section, rather than have the musical straightjacket of quantizing or two-bar loops."

With their mission to turn back the clocks to a time when music was made by relating to others rather than sitting alone in the glow of a computer screen, it's clear that these aren't some musical new-jacks who think they can buck conventional wisdom with youthful idealism and vigor.



Sounds good to me. smile


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Reply #3 posted 10/19/07 7:47am

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I keep forgetting to subscribe.....and I would lhave enjoyed this issue....off to Barnes and Noble I go....

wall

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Reply #4 posted 10/19/07 8:09am

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theAudience said:

magnificentsynthesizer said:

I really want to subscribe to this mag, but I don't have the money nor the time to indulge it.

Though, i'll make it to the bookstore for this issue.

Would anyone know if the Heliocentrics is influenced by Sun Ra in some way?

From the article...
Over the last four years, the time it has taken the group to conceptualize and complete the debut, Out There, the group has been listening to everything from Sun Ra and the Silver Apples to Broadcast and King Tubby.

Another quote...
The goal of the Heliocentrics is, according to drummer Malcolm Catto, "a return back to something more humanoid, like the intricacies of a group of musicians communicating together and the subtlety of a living, breathing rhythm section, rather than have the musical straightjacket of quantizing or two-bar loops."

With their mission to turn back the clocks to a time when music was made by relating to others rather than sitting alone in the glow of a computer screen, it's clear that these aren't some musical new-jacks who think they can buck conventional wisdom with youthful idealism and vigor.



Sounds good to me. smile


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On my monitor it reads good, i have yet to decide if it sounds good. wink
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Reply #5 posted 10/19/07 8:25am

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...

biggrin It has been grabbed!!!!!





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" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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Reply #6 posted 10/19/07 8:35am

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magnificentsynthesizer said:



On my monitor it reads good, i have yet to decide if it sounds good. wink

Checking a few samples, it's got that "out factor" you'd enjoy...ufo


cool


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Reply #7 posted 10/19/07 6:30pm

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paligap said:

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biggrin It has been grabbed!!!!!





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This mag has become my favorite subscription that I actually pay for. cool


tA

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Reply #8 posted 10/19/07 6:34pm

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Copped!

I started buying them around issue #6.
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Reply #9 posted 10/19/07 7:44pm

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agreed, tA and Cinnie!!

I love the fact that this magazine features the guys that were behind the secenes: The Writers, Producers, and Musicians that actually created this Music!! Nobody else is doin' this--We didn't even have a magazine like this back in the day, certainly not in the US! We had to put up with crap like Right On! magazine ( "Win A Date With Stoney Jackson" --WTF?????) disbelief lol -----to read about The Music itself, you had to go across the pond, at least the UK had Blues and Soul magazine....

There's exactly one print interview with Charles Stepney, and that's from around 1970, in Downbeat magazine. I'm glad Waxpoetics got to talk to the Mizell brothers while they're still alive--it's nice that somebody finally did, in the last 35 years...


anyway, All Hail Waxpoetics!!!








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" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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Reply #10 posted 10/20/07 1:28am

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my mag ! cool
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Reply #11 posted 10/20/07 11:05am

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paligap said:

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agreed, tA and Cinnie!!

I love the fact that this magazine features the guys that were behind the secenes: The Writers, Producers, and Musicians that actually created this Music!! Nobody else is doin' this--We didn't even have a magazine like this back in the day, certainly not in the US! We had to put up with crap like Right On! magazine ( "Win A Date With Stoney Jackson" --WTF?????) disbelief lol -----to read about The Music itself, you had to go across the pond, at least the UK had Blues and Soul magazine....

There's exactly one print interview with Charles Stepney, and that's from around 1970, in Downbeat magazine. I'm glad Waxpoetics got to talk to the Mizell brothers while they're still alive--it's nice that somebody finally did, in the last 35 years...


anyway, All Hail Waxpoetics!!!

Great take. Sad but funny.
What would be today's equivalent? Win a date with Soulja Boy? falloff

Speaking of going to Euro-mags for detailed info, recently I ordered a back issue of Jazzwise (December 2002/January 2003, Issue 60) for an article examining Jimi Hendrix and his Jazz influences and connections.
http://www.jazzwise.com/magazine/

It's a 7 page piece titled...



...Running the Voodoo Child Down.

This month's issue features an article on bassist Coleridge Goode.
(Recorded with Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grappelli in 1946.)


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Reply #12 posted 10/20/07 12:27pm

Cinnie

Did you guys hear about the book? The Wax Poetics Anthology that compiles the first issues?

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Cinnie said:

Did you guys hear about the book? The Wax Poetics Anthology that compiles the first issues?


eek...



...Que?


hmmm How many ducats will that bad boy set you back?



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Reply #14 posted 10/20/07 12:55pm

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Cinnie said:

Did you guys hear about the book? The Wax Poetics Anthology that compiles the first issues?


thanks for the heads up ! I missed a few of the fist ones..thanks ! cool
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Reply #15 posted 10/20/07 1:02pm

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While record hunting today, I found out that a local record store, a hip hop oriented store to be precise, sells Waxpoetics.
Now, I've been wondering this for awhile and I'd like y'all to clear this up before I start buying the mag. Is it geared towards hip hop/rap/new music or is the mag all about the real stuff, yanno, the stuff they have on the covers? cool
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Reply #16 posted 10/20/07 1:06pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

While record hunting today, I found out that a local record store, a hip hop oriented store to be precise, sells Waxpoetics.
Now, I've been wondering this for awhile and I'd like y'all to clear this up before I start buying the mag. Is it geared towards hip hop/rap/new music or is the mag all about the real stuff, yanno, the stuff they have on the covers? cool


It is geared towards "the real schitt", a small amount of which is hip hop (Public Enemy).
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Cinnie said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:

While record hunting today, I found out that a local record store, a hip hop oriented store to be precise, sells Waxpoetics.
Now, I've been wondering this for awhile and I'd like y'all to clear this up before I start buying the mag. Is it geared towards hip hop/rap/new music or is the mag all about the real stuff, yanno, the stuff they have on the covers? cool


It is geared towards "the real schitt", a small amount of which is hip hop (Public Enemy).

Alright man, thanks. I gotta go get a copy then... and ask 'em if they have older issues lying around that I can buy. I want the Rick James, Mandrill, Meters & Parliament issues lol
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Reply #18 posted 10/20/07 1:13pm

Cinnie

FuNkeNsteiN said:

Cinnie said:



It is geared towards "the real schitt", a small amount of which is hip hop (Public Enemy).

Alright man, thanks. I gotta go get a copy then... and ask 'em if they have older issues lying around that I can buy. I want the Rick James, Mandrill, Meters & Parliament issues lol


It's really for record collectors, so that's why there would be a story about DJ Shadow, yaunndadig?
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FuNkeNsteiN said:


Now, I've been wondering this for awhile and I'd like y'all to clear this up before I start buying the mag. Is it geared towards hip hop/rap/new music or is the mag all about the real stuff, yanno, the stuff they have on the covers? cool

Not a strictly Hip-Hop mag at all or I definitely wouldn't be subscribing.
What is does regarding that genre is look under the hood of Hip-Hop. The music it's based on.

Covers a lot of original Jazz/R&B/Latin/World artists along with (as paligap noted) the behind the scenes creative forces that were involved.

If Miles is on the cover, there's a feature article about him in the mag.


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Reply #20 posted 10/20/07 1:20pm

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exactly tA.
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theAudience said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


Now, I've been wondering this for awhile and I'd like y'all to clear this up before I start buying the mag. Is it geared towards hip hop/rap/new music or is the mag all about the real stuff, yanno, the stuff they have on the covers? cool

Not a strictly Hip-Hop mag at all or I definitely wouldn't be subscribing.
What is does regarding that genre is look under the hood of Hip-Hop. The music it's based on.

Covers a lot of original Jazz/R&B/Latin/World artists along with (as paligap noted) the behind the scenes creative forces that were involved.

If Miles is on the cover, there's a feature article about him in the mag.


tA

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Yea, I knew they had articles about the stuff they put on the cover, but I don't think a mag is worth subscribing to if it only has one interesting article per issue wink
But yanno, it's good to know that the magazine has some actual depth and deals with real music.
I ordered the Rick James & Mandrill issues from dustygroove, for 6.90$ a piece. Gonna go cop the Miles issue some time next week.

Thanks tA and Cinnie thumbs up!
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Reply #22 posted 10/20/07 1:29pm

Cinnie

I don't think most rap fans would care for this magazine to be honest. lol
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Cinnie said:


It's really for record collectors, so that's why there would be a story about DJ Shadow, yaunndadig?

That's a great point and another element of the magazine.
For record collecters and about record collectors.

The Parliament/Funkadelic issue (#18 AUG/SEPT 2006), had a feature article on Brazilian artist Ed Motta...



...I almost passed out when they showed his "Room-O-LPs" eek


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theAudience said:

Cinnie said:


It's really for record collectors, so that's why there would be a story about DJ Shadow, yaunndadig?

That's a great point and another element of the magazine.
For record collecters and about record collectors.

The Parliament/Funkadelic issue (#18 AUG/SEPT 2006), had a feature article on Brazilian artist Ed Motta...



...I almost passed out when they showed his "Room-O-LPs" eek


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eek

Good lawd... dude's got some wax lol
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FuNkeNsteiN said:



eek

Good lawd... dude's got some wax lol

That's an Über-Deep collection. smile


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Reply #27 posted 10/20/07 6:28pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

theAudience said:


That's a great point and another element of the magazine.
For record collecters and about record collectors.

The Parliament/Funkadelic issue (#18 AUG/SEPT 2006), had a feature article on Brazilian artist Ed Motta...



...I almost passed out when they showed his "Room-O-LPs" eek


tA

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eek

Good lawd... dude's got some wax lol


Yeah, looking at that, I realize that I have to put some order in my collection.

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Reply #28 posted 10/21/07 1:43am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

theAudience said:


Not a strictly Hip-Hop mag at all or I definitely wouldn't be subscribing.
What is does regarding that genre is look under the hood of Hip-Hop. The music it's based on.

Covers a lot of original Jazz/R&B/Latin/World artists along with (as paligap noted) the behind the scenes creative forces that were involved.

If Miles is on the cover, there's a feature article about him in the mag.


tA

The Mag is my favorite..Its all about THE REALNESS ! Oldschool funk ..(mainly stuff with breaks) But also about the business side of a lot of people's stories..as well as recording techniques that were used..vintage pics from back in the days..its Superbad..I can read it from cover to cover and find something i dig..*cause im all about oldschool funk ! Get it !

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

Yea, I knew they had articles about the stuff they put on the cover, but I don't think a mag is worth subscribing to if it only has one interesting article per issue wink
But yanno, it's good to know that the magazine has some actual depth and deals with real music.
I ordered the Rick James & Mandrill issues from dustygroove, for 6.90$ a piece. Gonna go cop the Miles issue some time next week.

Thanks tA and Cinnie thumbs up!
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MrSoulpower said:


Yeah, looking at that, I realize that I have to put some order in my collection.


shocked


hmmm If you need a West Coast storage location...whistling


wink


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