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Reply #30 posted 10/22/07 5:44am

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SpecialEd said:

The first time? He has a long history of casual homophobia and racial stereotyping also.

Really? confused Can you elaborate? I guess I'm not as up on Common as I thought eek
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Reply #31 posted 10/22/07 5:44am

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namepeace said:

It's not dumb for Common to make that statement. God IS with T.I. no matter what he does. God doesn't spare him from the consequences of his actions. But why would Common NOT offer some type of support to a purported friend, even though that friend was colossally stupid?

I mean, Jesus said we should pray for our enemies.

I thought you were referring to Common's views on interracial relationships.

Oh my, what are his views on that? hmmm
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Reply #32 posted 10/22/07 5:57am

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CalhounSq said:

SpecialEd said:

The first time? He has a long history of casual homophobia and racial stereotyping also.

Really? confused Can you elaborate? I guess I'm not as up on Common as I thought eek


You need a residency on Okayplayer.com to witness them all. "Fag" this "Fag" that rolling off his tongue. Breaks white womens hearts by refusing them the onstage dedication segment in the live show, sent one back into audience when he could see her ethnicity. All this when he admits he gets with the beckies on the low. White people only care about dogs and yoga, there have been others. Just a few that are fresh in my mind.

Not the dumbest rapper going but how he and the likes of Mos Def get held up as somehow superior with all the nonsense they come out with is just sad.
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Reply #33 posted 10/22/07 6:06am

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SpecialEd said:

CalhounSq said:


Really? confused Can you elaborate? I guess I'm not as up on Common as I thought eek


You need a residency on Okayplayer.com to witness them all. "Fag" this "Fag" that rolling off his tongue. Breaks white womens hearts by refusing them the onstage dedication segment in the live show, sent one back into audience when he could see her ethnicity. All this when he admits he gets with the beckies on the low. White people only care about dogs and yoga, there have been others. Just a few that are fresh in my mind.

Not the dumbest rapper going but how he and the likes of Mos Def get held up as somehow superior with all the nonsense they come out with is just sad.

That's funny, he pulled a White woman onstage @ the SF show a few months ago neutral You may be making a mountain, but I'll give you the "fag" stuff, that ain't cool...
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Reply #34 posted 10/22/07 6:22am

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Reply #35 posted 10/22/07 6:24am

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The homophobia he displays isn't easily written off IMO but the other stuff is silly yeah. Not serious but very dumb.
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Reply #36 posted 10/22/07 6:55am

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CalhounSq said:

namepeace said:

It's not dumb for Common to make that statement. God IS with T.I. no matter what he does. God doesn't spare him from the consequences of his actions. But why would Common NOT offer some type of support to a purported friend, even though that friend was colossally stupid?

I mean, Jesus said we should pray for our enemies.

I thought you were referring to Common's views on interracial relationships.

Oh my, what are his views on that? hmmm


Listen to "Hungry" and "Real People." I'll elaborate later.

BTW, he's one of my favorite MCs of all time.
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Reply #37 posted 10/22/07 7:00am

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namepeace said:

CalhounSq said:


Oh my, what are his views on that? hmmm


Listen to "Hungry" and "Real People." I'll elaborate later.

BTW, he's one of my favorite MCs of all time.

I know "Real People" now that I think about it, gotta look up "Hungry" though...
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Reply #38 posted 10/22/07 7:01am

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I'm still waiting to see what he said that was so dumb.
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Reply #39 posted 10/22/07 7:04am

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SpecialEd said:

"Fag" this "Fag" that rolling off his tongue.


Aah.....now there's the dumb statement I was waiting to read. That sounds more like the typical shit that crappers and shit hoppers would say. It really doesn't bother me though because all of them are trash and trash's opinion isn't worth a damn anyway.
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Reply #40 posted 10/22/07 7:12am

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Some highlights of his dumb statements. One even Prince-related:

“Homo’s a no-no, so faggots, stay solo"

"I’ll turn you into the artist formerly known as You gay ass fag."

"Niggas hate you, they ain't paying you no attention
In a circle of faggots, your name is mentioned"

I'd go as far as to say Common is more homophobic than the average rapper. Seems obsessed with the theme.
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Reply #41 posted 10/22/07 9:01pm

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SpecialEd said:

Some highlights of his dumb statements. One even Prince-related:

“Homo’s a no-no, so faggots, stay solo"

"I’ll turn you into the artist formerly known as You gay ass fag."

"Niggas hate you, they ain't paying you no attention
In a circle of faggots, your name is mentioned"

I'd go as far as to say Common is more homophobic than the average rapper. Seems obsessed with the theme.

Ouch.
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Reply #42 posted 10/22/07 9:04pm

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magnificentsynthesizer said:

he gets to Michael Vic and says misunderstood and my friends and i looked at each other and were like whofarted

David Banner held up a Vick jersey at the BET Hip Hop Awards and was like "Man, Michael we still got love for you"[/i] (or something like that), and the crowd went crazy cheering.
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Reply #43 posted 10/22/07 9:18pm

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maybe its me
but i just don't think what a Rapper has to say has any merits
Maybe thats me...
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Reply #44 posted 10/23/07 5:27am

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AnckSuNamun said:

magnificentsynthesizer said:

he gets to Michael Vic and says misunderstood and my friends and i looked at each other and were like whofarted

David Banner held up a Vick jersey at the BET Hip Hop Awards and was like "Man, Michael we still got love for you" (or something like that), and the crowd went crazy cheering.


And your point is? hmm
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Reply #45 posted 10/23/07 5:27am

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EmbattledWarrior said:

maybe its me
but i just don't think what a Rapper has to say has any merits
Maybe thats me...


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Reply #46 posted 10/23/07 9:25pm

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magnificentsynthesizer said:

AnckSuNamun said:


David Banner held up a Vick jersey at the BET Hip Hop Awards and was like "Man, Michael we still got love for you" (or something like that), and the crowd went crazy cheering.


And your point is? hmm

Just saying Common's not the only one cheering on Vick. I was kinda surprised Vick was mentioned at all, the crowd cheering was like rubbing salt in the wound to those who don't support Vick. lol
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Reply #47 posted 10/24/07 7:58am

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AnckSuNamun said:

magnificentsynthesizer said:



And your point is? hmm

Just saying Common's not the only one cheering on Vick. I was kinda surprised Vick was mentioned at all, the crowd cheering was like rubbing salt in the wound to those who don't support Vick. lol


i understood what you meant, but i was just thinking about the audience he was addressing. Apparantly, fighting dogs is part of the hip-hop culture, so i wouldn't expect them to have a grasp on the fact that what Vic had done was wrong.
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Reply #48 posted 10/24/07 12:00pm

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AnckSuNamun said:


Just saying Common's not the only one cheering on Vick. I was kinda surprised Vick was mentioned at all, the crowd cheering was like rubbing salt in the wound to those who don't support Vick. lol


i understood what you meant, but i was just thinking about the audience he was addressing. Apparantly, fighting dogs is part of the hip-hop culture, so i wouldn't expect them to have a grasp on the fact that what Vic had done was wrong.


I think they know, but they're defending their friends. Common might be a great, generally positive MC, but who says he's right on everything?
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Reply #49 posted 10/26/07 9:09pm

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SpecialEd said:

Some highlights of his dumb statements. One even Prince-related:

“Homo’s a no-no, so faggots, stay solo"

"I’ll turn you into the artist formerly known as You gay ass fag."

"Niggas hate you, they ain't paying you no attention
In a circle of faggots, your name is mentioned"

I'd go as far as to say Common is more homophobic than the average rapper. Seems obsessed with the theme.

I'm surprised and disappointed to hear this stuff about Common. And while they aren't joined at the hip, hasn't his boy Kanye been a pretty vocal critic of homophobia in hip hop? I wonder if they've ever talked about this.
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Reply #50 posted 10/27/07 8:31am

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SpecialEd said:

Some highlights of his dumb statements. One even Prince-related:

“Homo’s a no-no, so faggots, stay solo"

"I’ll turn you into the artist formerly known as You gay ass fag."

"Niggas hate you, they ain't paying you no attention
In a circle of faggots, your name is mentioned"

I'd go as far as to say Common is more homophobic than the average rapper. Seems obsessed with the theme.

I'm surprised and disappointed to hear this stuff about Common. And while they aren't joined at the hip, hasn't his boy Kanye been a pretty vocal critic of homophobia in hip hop? I wonder if they've ever talked about this.


The evidence is indisputable, SpecialEd, yet a lot of those lyrics were dropped more than 10 years ago, IIRC. Doesn't excuse them, but I haven't heard a whole lot of that language coming from Com in recent outings. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Reply #51 posted 10/27/07 9:28am

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paisleypark4 said:

VinnyM27 said:

The real shock is ....how old is Common that he is playing the dad of a 27 year old (even though TI kind of looks like a kid). As for Common said, it almost sounds harmless. It's really a nothing kind of statement.



All he was saying that he hopes that the kid is ok.

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Reply #52 posted 10/27/07 10:16am

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namepeace said:

Lammastide said:


I'm surprised and disappointed to hear this stuff about Common. And while they aren't joined at the hip, hasn't his boy Kanye been a pretty vocal critic of homophobia in hip hop? I wonder if they've ever talked about this.


The evidence is indisputable, SpecialEd, yet a lot of those lyrics were dropped more than 10 years ago, IIRC. Doesn't excuse them, but I haven't heard a whole lot of that language coming from Com in recent outings. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Ahhh... so this is old stuff. Well, that feels a bit better, I guess. He seems so above that brand of crap now. (Although I admit the "Niggas hate you... circle of faggots..." line is pretty witty.smile)
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Reply #53 posted 10/27/07 10:21am

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And his comment to T.I. is hardly dumb. God, indeed, is with the bruh... regardless of his guilt and through any appropriate consequences. The universe is bigger than T.I. and his screw ups.
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Reply #54 posted 10/27/07 10:31am

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namepeace said:

Lammastide said:


I'm surprised and disappointed to hear this stuff about Common. And while they aren't joined at the hip, hasn't his boy Kanye been a pretty vocal critic of homophobia in hip hop? I wonder if they've ever talked about this.


The evidence is indisputable, SpecialEd, yet a lot of those lyrics were dropped more than 10 years ago, IIRC. Doesn't excuse them, but I haven't heard a whole lot of that language coming from Com in recent outings. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Yep the last two or three albums lay off the homophobia I believe. Haven't really followed his recent work. It all goes back to the thread title "First dumb statement" when at various times hes made plenty.
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Reply #55 posted 10/27/07 12:34pm

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lastdecember said:

Here it is.....


COMMON URGES T.I. TO PRAY OVER CHARGES

Rapper COMMON has voiced his support for his AMERICAN GANGSTER co-star T.I. after he was taken into custody over weapons charges.
Common, real name Lonnie Rashid Lynn Jr, who plays T.I's dad in the film, urged the rapper-actor to pray for his future.

He says, "Know that God is with (you). Know that He knows what the truth is and the truth is going to allow (you) to get out and be alright."

Twenty-seven-year-old T.I., real name Clifford Harris Jr. - remains in custody after allegedly sending his bodyguard to buy three machine guns and two silencers from an undercover police officer who was posing as an arms dealer.

His lawyers asked U.S. Magistrate Judge Alan Baverman to release the rapper on a $2.2 million (GBP1.1 million) bond with monitored home confinement while he awaits trial.

But the judge said he will reserve his ruling until October 26 (07) when his lawyers are expected to present an approved home monitor.



Dont know where everyone will be on this statement, but to me, its dumb. Mainly the whole GOD knows the truth shit is so sickening at this point, take the blame for your own actions, how come you dont say "Pray for the Bodyguard also" while he was at it. Regardless of what the outcome of this charge is, i really doubt that he is 100% innocent, and there lies the problem, i have seen people posting all over that he is innocent and things like that and yet no one is even speaking on how and why were these assault weapons were even involved, that for some reason has taken a back seat. Machine guns and silencers, seems like someone was planning something, and think how cowardly this all is too. Using another person to go get them for you, no one is speaking on that either.




How does God knowing the truth stop a person from accepting responsibility? Wouldn’t God know the truth either way it goes? Further more were you there? Do you know the truth and the full story, probably not, I see nothing wrong with Common’s statement.
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