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Reply #30 posted 10/21/07 10:10am

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MrSoulpower said:

sosgemini said:

thats a rather odd statement to make. should i check with you in the future when using an analogy?

and i brought up wright because she championed stone by couching her and making press appearances with her. harlepolis got the connection.


Not really an odd statement. If you show me some proof that "singing like a good" is an actual musical gimmick recognized in the music biz, I shall admit my ignorance on this matter and offer my apology.

And in regards to Stone's relevance on this thread - you brought her up in a negative way before you even mentioned that you knew Betty's "one big hit".


are you reading this shit before you post it? lol
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Reply #31 posted 10/21/07 10:11am

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oh my god you are giving me a headache...I am not trying to change the definition of her music...I am just saying she fails at it...IMHO. nuts


And that is a "fact" based on your personal dislike of her singing?


and which part of In My Humble Opinion did you not understand? lol
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Reply #32 posted 10/21/07 10:12am

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Are there any full length LP's of hers that deserve attention & any new stuff she's done by herself or with others...besides the new Angie Stone duet. Thanks. biggrin


And rightfully so, let's get back on topic. You could get her album"My First Time Around". However, this is a teenage record, she was young when she cutted. Her chops were already there, but not quite as mature. "Hard to stop" from 1973 is a killer, and so is "Betty Wright Live" (1977), which features the live version of "Tonight is the night". I also like "This time for real" from the same year, but it's a little bit more smooth compared to "Hard to stop".
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Reply #33 posted 10/21/07 10:13am

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MrSoulpower said:



And that is a "fact" based on your personal dislike of her singing?


and which part of In My Humble Opinion did you not understand? lol


Yeah, you are right, I didn't read the IMHO. I apologize. However, the "sings like a goat"- observation sounded like a pretty factual claim rather than an opinion.
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Reply #34 posted 10/21/07 11:20am

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Shit is cringe worthy I agree lol but on the other hand I'm pleased that her name is getting revived among the youngins nod


Joss actually can sing. I wasn't hip to her music at all, until I accidentaly saw one of her live shows recently. She did a cover of Sugar Billy's "Super Duper Love", which is a deep Soul classic. She's got a tight band as well - a part of James Brown's former horn section (Hollie Farris and Jeff Watkins) are with her now.


I love her new single "Bruised But Not Broken" music With more strong songs like this,Joss will be a superstar someday.
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Reply #35 posted 10/21/07 12:05pm

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As mentioned, "Clean Up Woman" & "Tonight Is the Night", but I also really like "Let Me Be Your Lovemaker" headbang

I have a few more of hers on my ITunes, lemme check it...
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Reply #36 posted 10/21/07 12:14pm

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I have "Dance With Me" under her name too, but it sounds like a dude confused
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Reply #37 posted 10/21/07 12:33pm

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IMO, Betty Wright is more akin to 60s "singles" artists, so in terms of albums, that may not be the way to go.

If I just had to pick some albums...



...these include at least one tune most would be familiar with.

Girls Can't Do What The Guys Do
Clean Up Woman
The Babysitter
Shoorah! Shoorah!
Secretary
Tonight Is The Night

Betty Wright Live...



...has the monologue intro version of Tonight Is The Night.

The majority of her material was co-written by Clarence Reid (whose alter-ego was Blowfly)
Her hit Clean Up Woman is not only an R&B classic but is notable for the 3 distinct guitar parts played by Little Beaver (William Hale)


For the casual listener the...



...The Best of Betty Wright comp might be the way to go.


As for Betty Wright "championing" Joss Stone, without being privy to any inside info, my guess is that it was simply a "job" that was taken on by her production company in Miami.

Regarding the description of certain singers to be "goat-like", i've used that term in a comedic sense to describe certain vocalists that have a very fast vibrato (Stevie Nicks, Belinda Carlisle, etc.) as opposed to the other extreme, Chrissie Hynde for example who has a very slow vibrato.


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Reply #38 posted 10/21/07 12:47pm

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As for Betty Wright "championing" Joss Stone, without being privy to any inside info, my guess is that it was simply a "job" that was taken on by her production company in Miami.

Regarding the description of certain singers to be "goat-like", i've used that term in a comedic sense to describe certain vocalists that have a very fast vibrato (Stevie Nicks, Belinda Carlisle, etc.) as opposed to the other extreme, Chrissie Hynde for example who has a very slow vibrato.


tA



Good selection of tunes, bro.

And it's true that Betty's production company took Josh under her wings, but it was pretty personal as well. Betty was looking for a young artist to carry on the torch of Soul. For that reason, she got Gwen McCrae involved as well, both doing back-ups fo Joss. I don't think that Joss is the perfect choice, but the girl sure can sing. She's indpendent now, she manages herself and she recently has launched her own online radio show in which she will interview Soul legends from back in the day. She just interviewed Marva Whitney. Her agenda is to promote real music, to educate the mainstream kids about the legacy of Soul and to bring true talent back. For that reason alone, she does not deserve to be lumped into the crowd of Beyonce etc.
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Reply #39 posted 10/21/07 12:55pm

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theAudience said:

IMO, Betty Wright is more akin to 60s "singles" artists, so in terms of albums, that may not be the way to go.

If I just had to pick some albums...



...these include at least one tune most would be familiar with.

Girls Can't Do What The Guys Do
Clean Up Woman
The Babysitter
Shoorah! Shoorah!
Secretary
Tonight Is The Night

Betty Wright Live...



...has the monologue intro version of Tonight Is The Night.

The majority of her material was co-written by Clarence Reid (whose alter-ego was Blowfly)
Her hit Clean Up Woman is not only an R&B classic but is notable for the 3 distinct guitar parts played by Little Beaver (William Hale)


For the casual listener the...



...The Best of Betty Wright comp might be the way to go.


As for Betty Wright "championing" Joss Stone, without being privy to any inside info, my guess is that it was simply a "job" that was taken on by her production company in Miami.

Regarding the description of certain singers to be "goat-like", i've used that term in a comedic sense to describe certain vocalists that have a very fast vibrato (Stevie Nicks, Belinda Carlisle, etc.) as opposed to the other extreme, Chrissie Hynde for example who has a very slow vibrato.


tA

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omfg re: Blowfly!! eek I remember my sis playing those records in secret when I was a kid lol
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Reply #40 posted 10/21/07 1:02pm

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omfg re: Blowfly!! eek I remember my sis playing those records in secret when I was a kid lol


lol I uploaded a few Blowfly album covers to my photobucket account a few days ago and they were deleted because the "images violated the terms of service".

By the way, Clarence aka Blowfly is still doing his thing, he just finished a European tour. In the US, he plays rather shady clubs and bars. He could make much more money doing gigs as Clarence Reid, but he's already set and he doesn't care.
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Reply #41 posted 10/21/07 1:20pm

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MrSoulpower said:

CalhounSq said:


omfg re: Blowfly!! eek I remember my sis playing those records in secret when I was a kid lol


lol I uploaded a few Blowfly album covers to my photobucket account a few days ago and they were deleted because the "images violated the terms of service".

By the way, Clarence aka Blowfly is still doing his thing, he just finished a European tour. In the US, he plays rather shady clubs and bars. He could make much more money doing gigs as Clarence Reid, but he's already set and he doesn't care.

OMG, are you serious he still does gigs?? omfg WTF is that like? From what I remember he just talked a bunch of nasty shit over music, right? lol OMG, if he EVER brings his ass to SF I may have to get very drunk, put on a disguise & go see that shit! bananadance
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Reply #42 posted 10/21/07 1:21pm

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MrSoulpower said:

theAudience said:


As for Betty Wright "championing" Joss Stone, without being privy to any inside info, my guess is that it was simply a "job" that was taken on by her production company in Miami.

Regarding the description of certain singers to be "goat-like", i've used that term in a comedic sense to describe certain vocalists that have a very fast vibrato (Stevie Nicks, Belinda Carlisle, etc.) as opposed to the other extreme, Chrissie Hynde for example who has a very slow vibrato.


tA



Good selection of tunes, bro.

And it's true that Betty's production company took Josh under her wings, but it was pretty personal as well. Betty was looking for a young artist to carry on the torch of Soul. For that reason, she got Gwen McCrae involved as well, both doing back-ups fo Joss. I don't think that Joss is the perfect choice, but the girl sure can sing. She's indpendent now, she manages herself and she recently has launched her own online radio show in which she will interview Soul legends from back in the day. She just interviewed Marva Whitney. Her agenda is to promote real music, to educate the mainstream kids about the legacy of Soul and to bring true talent back. For that reason alone, she does not deserve to be lumped into the crowd of Beyonce etc.

Thanks.

I see. Hopefully i'll be able to talk with Betty Wright next month.

Btw, i've heard Beyonce in concert and at rehearsals unenhanced.
Believe me, whatever one might think of her material, she's definitely a "singer" in the classic sense.


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Reply #43 posted 10/21/07 1:25pm

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OMG, are you serious he still does gigs?? omfg WTF is that like? From what I remember he just talked a bunch of nasty shit over music, right? lol OMG, if he EVER brings his ass to SF I may have to get very drunk, put on a disguise & go see that shit! bananadance


Yeah, I also do some booking so I worked with him. The cat is really hard to book. The show is even more nasty than the records. He still wears that silly costume, and he insults the people in the audience. He would pick out the ugliest and most obese lady in the audience, call her on stage, make her dance and tell her "You are the ugliest bitch in the room, wanna fuck?" You can imagine, it's hard to get gigs with that type of show, especially in the US.But lately, he agreed to also do a set as Clarence Reid.
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Reply #44 posted 10/21/07 1:26pm

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theAudience said:

Btw, i've heard Beyonce in concert and at rehearsals unenhanced.
Believe me, whatever one might think of her material, she's definitely a "singer" in the classic sense.


tA

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That's what I've heard and I don't doubt that she can sing .. it's really a shame that she plays it safe and sticks to the mainstream repertoire.
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Reply #45 posted 10/21/07 1:34pm

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MrSoulpower said:

CalhounSq said:

OMG, are you serious he still does gigs?? omfg WTF is that like? From what I remember he just talked a bunch of nasty shit over music, right? lol OMG, if he EVER brings his ass to SF I may have to get very drunk, put on a disguise & go see that shit! bananadance


Yeah, I also do some booking so I worked with him. The cat is really hard to book. The show is even more nasty than the records. He still wears that silly costume, and he insults the people in the audience. He would pick out the ugliest and most obese lady in the audience, call her on stage, make her dance and tell her "You are the ugliest bitch in the room, wanna fuck?" You can imagine, it's hard to get gigs with that type of show, especially in the US.But lately, he agreed to also do a set as Clarence Reid.
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eek eek eek Holy shit, that's HELLA COLD disbelief She was probably feeling good about herself until that shit hammer

I don't remember his outfits - is it just bright, tacky shit? I think I only saw one album cover, seems like he wore a polyester suit from what I remember shrug

DAMN, you gotta be a skanky club to host that kinda show, huh? lol
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Reply #46 posted 10/21/07 1:36pm

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"You Are A Ho And You Dont KNow":

i feel sorry for your soul and so

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Reply #47 posted 10/21/07 1:45pm

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eek eek eek Holy shit, that's HELLA COLD disbelief She was probably feeling good about herself until that shit hammer

I don't remember his outfits - is it just bright, tacky shit? I think I only saw one album cover, seems like he wore a polyester suit from what I remember shrug

DAMN, you gotta be a skanky club to host that kinda show, huh? lol



Like I said, it's nasty .. but a lot of fun. This is what he looks like on stage these days:



And this is what he looks like off-stage:



Parents, you do not want to leave your daughters with that man!! Ironically, he's a straight guy .. no drugs, not even alcohol. He gets high off his perversities.
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Reply #48 posted 10/21/07 1:45pm

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MrSoulpower said:

CalhounSq said:

OMG, are you serious he still does gigs?? omfg WTF is that like? From what I remember he just talked a bunch of nasty shit over music, right? lol OMG, if he EVER brings his ass to SF I may have to get very drunk, put on a disguise & go see that shit! bananadance


Yeah, I also do some booking so I worked with him. The cat is really hard to book. The show is even more nasty than the records. He still wears that silly costume, and he insults the people in the audience. He would pick out the ugliest and most obese lady in the audience, call her on stage, make her dance and tell her "You are the ugliest bitch in the room, wanna fuck?" You can imagine, it's hard to get gigs with that type of show, especially in the US.But lately, he agreed to also do a set as Clarence Reid.




...falloff

He had some gigs in the L.A. area (Blowfly persona) not too long ago.
Had planned on going but decided against it at the last minute.
I'd much rather see him perform as...



..."himself".


tA

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Reply #49 posted 10/21/07 1:46pm

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MrSoulpower said:

CalhounSq said:

eek eek eek Holy shit, that's HELLA COLD disbelief She was probably feeling good about herself until that shit hammer

I don't remember his outfits - is it just bright, tacky shit? I think I only saw one album cover, seems like he wore a polyester suit from what I remember shrug

DAMN, you gotta be a skanky club to host that kinda show, huh? lol



Like I said, it's nasty .. but a lot of fun. This is what he looks like on stage these days:



And this is what he looks like off-stage:



Parents, you do not want to leave your daughters with that man!! Ironically, he's a straight guy .. no drugs, not even alcohol. He gets high off his perversities.

OH

MY

GOD!!!

eek omg omfg



Okay, I don't think I can GET drunk enough to see that shit lol



eek
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Reply #50 posted 10/21/07 1:47pm

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theAudience said:

MrSoulpower said:



Yeah, I also do some booking so I worked with him. The cat is really hard to book. The show is even more nasty than the records. He still wears that silly costume, and he insults the people in the audience. He would pick out the ugliest and most obese lady in the audience, call her on stage, make her dance and tell her "You are the ugliest bitch in the room, wanna fuck?" You can imagine, it's hard to get gigs with that type of show, especially in the US.But lately, he agreed to also do a set as Clarence Reid.




...falloff

He had some gigs in the L.A. area (Blowfly persona) not too long ago.
Had planned on going but decided against it at the last minute.
I'd much rather see him perform as...



..."himself".


tA

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What is with the nails??? boxed
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Reply #51 posted 10/21/07 1:48pm

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OH

MY

GOD!!!

eek omg omfg



Okay, I don't think I can GET drunk enough to see that shit lol



eek


Wait until he pulls you on his lap!

lol I feel bad for this thread. Maybe it should be renamed in "Alston and Cat recording legends".
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Reply #52 posted 10/21/07 1:50pm

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MrSoulpower said:

CalhounSq said:

OH

MY

GOD!!!

eek omg omfg



Okay, I don't think I can GET drunk enough to see that shit lol



eek


Wait until he pulls you on his lap!

lol I feel bad for this thread. Maybe it should be renamed in "Alston and Cat recording legends".


Oh hell no, I'd leave before he could get close to me lol

I feel bad too, lets get back to Betty & why neither of you (tA, I'm talkin' 'bout you!) mentioned the song I like, "Let Me Be Your Lovemaker" - that shit is sweet! headbang
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Reply #53 posted 10/21/07 1:51pm

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What is with the nails??? boxed


Sex toy. Wait until he finds your G-Spot ..

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Reply #54 posted 10/21/07 1:52pm

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CalhounSq said:


What is with the nails??? boxed


Sex toy. Wait until he finds your G-Spot ..


omfg omfg omfg shake shake shake OMG, I am fucking CRINGING like hell right now!!! falloff ill arrow
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Reply #55 posted 10/21/07 1:54pm

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CalhounSq said:


omfg omfg omfg shake shake shake OMG, I am fucking CRINGING like hell right now!!! falloff ill arrow


Wait .. you should attend one of his parties!

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Reply #56 posted 10/21/07 1:57pm

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MrSoulpower said:

CalhounSq said:


omfg omfg omfg shake shake shake OMG, I am fucking CRINGING like hell right now!!! falloff ill arrow


Wait .. you should attend one of his parties!


I think I'd hire someone to kill me first biggrin
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Reply #57 posted 10/21/07 2:00pm

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I think I'd hire someone to kill me first biggrin


Come on .. I don't buy that. I'm sure you'd love the man.





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Reply #58 posted 10/21/07 2:01pm

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CalhounSq said:


What is with the nails??? boxed



...The better to scratch you with my dear...cool


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Reply #59 posted 10/21/07 2:02pm

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