Rodya24 said:

instead of touring she chose to make music still nothing wrong with that. it's not like touring helps. It didn't do anything for American life and coffesions ( here in the states)

sassybritches said:

it makes perfect sense that Def Jam does'nt want her to tour yet. She released two turkeys in a row (I loved Damita Jo-hated 20yo) and I would think they would like her to tour with a hot album.(I repeat, please Janet, keep that troll out of the studio).

Janet's If

janet tour
http://www.youtube.com/wa...xGe5nzaP3o

vr tour
http://www.youtube.com/wa...KqSvM_afec

a4u
http://www.youtube.com/wa...nVy-0lXbAs


Madonna's Vouge
BA
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Z2MJpkgSCg

GS
http://www.youtube.com/wa...AS-SZe4lz4

RIT
http://www.youtube.com/wa...GrhWOSYIbk

I wish Janet had the balls to challange her fans like Mads has.
[Edited 10/19/07 13:36pm]

TotalAlisa said:

You could say the same about Madonna. She's lasted longer than Janet, and you've spent the whole of this thread telling us how crap she is, so you need to find a better defence than that. As for Janet being special. Yeah, she's special just like lottery winners are special. Most people don't win the lottery. Only a very small, select group do. Does that mean they're special or just lucky?
[Edited 10/22/07 10:38am]

shortstuff45220 said:

Touring is not something you do simply to promote an album.If you're an artist,performing is part of your job description.I don't think Michael and Janet are really inspired to perform anymore.

ehuffnsd said:

QFT!!

How did janet's fans let her get away with that SAME performance 3 tours in a row??

does she do this on all her hits??

I've learned to accept that janet is not madonna, so she will never have the guts to do a tour like that, though I would love it

xperience319 said:

if you can't see the difference than oh well thoses pefromaces are not all that similar. anyway If is her signature and some things you just don't mess with.

shortstuff45220 said:

Thank you.

Its a routine. Of course shes going to do it more or less, the same. The only time that I remember her completely changing the choreography was All For You, for the Superbowl. Didn't like it.

If Michael ever changed 'Billie Jean' it'd be unforgivable

first of all is Janet being 100% honest. nope. Gil already told us back in Februray on his blog. that one of her sponsors bailed on her and they wanted her to down size the tour. Janet got upset and said it wasn't worth it no more. Unless Janet changed her mind .
but it's not completely out of the questions for a lable to ask for her to tour with a new album. why would they want her making money for Virgin still.

secondly why do some of you even bothering replying to Janet thread. especially if you already said you don't respect her or like her. that's fine but state your OPPION as fact. when it's isn't. and Janet is in control of her career more than people give her credit for. If she wasn't she would still be managed by her father. and probably would of quit by now if she wasn;t that into. but 20 years later, Janet is still going strong. and you know what at the end of the day Janet choses who she wants to work with, what she wants to sing about and ect just like Madonna. the only different id Janet doesn't across as a "bitch" like Madonna does. so people assume Janet just sits around in the studio and twidle her thumds.snd yes sometimes Jimmy Jam, Jermaine, and sometimes even Gil updates, her fans on what's going on but they don't make the decisions.
and yawn at the whole Rene thing. it's no screat that Rene wnated to be in the business and he couldn't make it. which is exactly why he's not doing nothing today. Janet got tired of him sitting around doing nothing , so she gave him credit for the Velvet Rope thinking it'll give hime a break. and I am not sure how much he did on that I certainlty tell you he wouldn't had Qutip on the album. and his brother did more in Videos and Photography than he did.
[Edited 10/22/07 11:16am]

If Michael ever changed 'Billie Jean' I'd go see one of his concerts

midnightmover said:

Explain to me how Madonna "lasted" longer? Janet was in the business since adolescence, while Madonna was posing nude, fucking for tracks, etc. Musically, they came out at the same time I think. About 1982.

Anti-Janet folks act like Madonna hasn't flopped herself. Please. That doesn't mean she "lasted" longer than Janet.

I really can't be asked to read these long ass posts. But i noticed the same losers bringing up the "M" word because everything revolves around her wrinkly ass.

So once again there is an unnecessary comparison between Janet and Madonna. Are people forgetting that Madonna didn't tour for nearly 10 years between 1993 - 2001?

Stop putting this biach on a pedestal.

I’m getting premonitions of replies
- she was doing Evita so she couldn't tour
- she was doing her personal trainer so she couldn't possibly multi task
- She popped out a baby and learnt how to care and love again

mancabdriver said:

Another dumb post. You're missing the whole point, which is this. When Madonna wasn't touring in the late 90s she openly said she just didn't want to. She never made up any bullshit excuse. When she didn't tour before then it was because she spent a whole year on Evita. That was no bullshit excuse. It was self evidently true.

btw, as any Madonna fan around here will tell you I can't stand the bitch, so unlike the Janet fans, I can be trusted to be objective. Everyone else here just falls into their camp and conveniently forgets anything they don't want to hear.

floetcist said:

Damn, I thought dumbness was just a hobby for you, but I see now it's a full time occupation. What's the pay like? Nevermind. Let me break it down for you as simply as I can. Janet didn't become a major music star until 1986. Madonna broke through in 1984. Janet's time at the top ended about 5 years ago. Madonna is still at the top. Therefore Madonna has lasted longer.

By the way, if you check the record you'll find that at no point in her career has Madonna been as low and hitless as Janet is right now. She bounced back from American Life in only two years. Even in the Sex period she was still selling out stadiums around the world. Within four years she was back on top with Evita. It's worth mentioning also that a flop by Madonna's standards is not the same as a flop by Janet's standards since Madonna has always been a far bigger seller internationally than Janet. Or are you still in denial about that?

Wouldn't be the first time she's used a lame excuse to get out of touring. Remember after 9/11 when she cancelled all of her European tours and said she didn't want to fly because of "terrorism"? And then she flew to Japan and Hawaii anyway? Weak excuse for mediocre sales, IMO.

midnightmover said:

How is Madonna still on top? Ask a non-Madonna fan from the general public to name the most recent song of hers that they remember. Its going to be 'Music' from 2000 just like its All For You from Janet in 2001.

No one is thinking about Madonna right now.

And I think when you're BANNED from RADIO AIR PLAY, MTV AND FINED BY THE FCC its going hard to sell records, don't you know? Or are you still in denial about that?

midnightmover said:

Yes and your posts are full of intelligent and balanced analysis. Bro or whatever gender you are, Why do you care if Janet is lying? It's not like you anticipated they tour or even planned to go?

floetcist said:

Aaah man, it just gets better. You genuinely don't have a clue, do you? How is Madonna still on top? Hmmm, let's see. Her last album sold 10 million copies worldwide. She just completed the most successful tour ever by a female artist, she headlined Live Earth, just signed a $120 million deal with Live Nation, and you're asking how is she still on top? One thing your post does clear up though is the mystery of how on God's green earth you ever came to believe Janet was an international icon on the same level as Madonna. The answer is clear. You think America is the whole world. If you realised there are other countries out there you'd understand that everyone in Europe knows Madonna's latest songs, particularly "Hung Up" which was Number One for four weeks here. You couldn't escape that piece of shit even if you wanted to. Believe me, I tried. It's also worth pointing out that even in America where Madonna received virtually no airplay her album sold 1.5 million copies. Not bad for someone being effectively blacklisted on US radio. You also need to understand that Janet has never been banned outside the US and her ass still can't get arrested here. It also seems to me that her most recent work got plenty of exposure in the US. The problem was people just aren't interested in her corny old routine.

midnightmover said:

Yeah, cause Madonna isn't corny

I never said America was the whole world. And I don't recall Madonna being banned ever.

When I said 'how is Madonna still on top', I'm asking WHO HAS MADONNA ON THE MIND RIGHT NOW? WHO IS TALKING ABOUT MADONNA?

I'm not talking about her fanbase, just in general.

Madonna based her career on controversy. She always makes it her business to be in the papers.

What did she do to not get airplay in USA?

Who cares about Madonna?

Isel said:

About 10 million people who bought her last album.